saucypass Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Van: Edler/Garrison+Hansen+ Schroeder+6th overall+ 2nd round pick for Fla: 1st overall Van: Kesler+ 4th round pick for Ana: Etem/Vatanen+ Ott: 1st+3rd round pick Use 1st overall on Ekblad and 10th overall on BPA. (Preferably Ehlers if available) Fill holes through FA's and tank the season to get a high pick in 2015 and then draft whomever. This is my first proposal so I'm new to this, so I apologize if the proposals were unreasonable/horrible. Thoughts? Edit: Assuming that they want to waive their NTC's. Kesler would waive to ANA to take a serious run at the cup, and maybe not Edler but Garrison might waive to go back to Florida and be part of their rebuild instead waiting for Vancouver to finish rebuilding their team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Van: Edler/Garrison+Hansen+ Schroeder+6th overall+ 2nd round pick for Fla: 1st overall Van: Kesler+ 4th round pick for Ana: Etem/Vatanen+ Ott: 1st+3rd round pick Use 1st overall on Ekblad and 10th overall on BPA. (Preferably Ehlers if available) Fill holes through FA's and tank the season to get a high pick in 2015 and then draft whomever. This is my first proposal so I'm new to this, so I apologize if the proposals were unreasonable/horrible. Thoughts? 1st trade huge overpayment as edler or Garrison alone can net us a 1st in this years draft and or more as per the leagues usual hunger for blue liners. 2nd trade....we don't even have a 4th this year if I recall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thad Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 1st trade huge overpayment as edler or Garrison alone can net us a 1st in this years draft and or more as per the leagues usual hunger for blue liners. 2nd trade....we don't even have a 4th this year if I recall Edler or garrison won't get you the first overall haha. I'm not even an edler hater but after the season he just had there's no way anyone would trade Ekblad for him. To OP, If you want that pick, start with our 2 best prospects and there's no way it's worth it for us. You can't just offer up all our expendable assets to try and equal up the value. It's gotta be top quality young players.. Your looking at Horvat and Kassian to get Florida thinking hey this might make us a better team than if we draft first overall... That's why the first overall never gets traded, because your shooting yourself in the foot trading for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJDDawg Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Edler, Garrison and Kesler's NTC's say hi! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saucypass Posted May 3, 2014 Author Share Posted May 3, 2014 Edler, Garrison and Kesler's NTC's say hi! Whoops! Assuming they waive I suppose. Edler or garrison won't get you the first overall haha. I'm not even an edler hater but after the season he just had there's no way anyone would trade Ekblad for him. To OP, If you want that pick, start with our 2 best prospects and there's no way it's worth it for us. You can't just offer up all our expendable assets to try and equal up the value. It's gotta be top quality young players.. Your looking at Horvat and Kassian to get Florida thinking hey this might make us a better team than if we draft first overall... That's why the first overall never gets traded, because your shooting yourself in the foot trading for it. Do you think we can plug in the holes by signing cheap third liners through free agency and ice a bad roster? That way we can tank for 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Edler or garrison won't get you the first overall haha. I'm not even an edler hater but after the season he just had there's no way anyone would trade Ekblad for him. To OP, If you want that pick, start with our 2 best prospects and there's no way it's worth it for us. You can't just offer up all our expendable assets to try and equal up the value. It's gotta be top quality young players.. Your looking at Horvat and Kassian to get Florida thinking hey this might make us a better team than if we draft first overall... That's why the first overall never gets traded, because your shooting yourself in the foot trading for it. Where...do you see me saying they;d get the 1st overall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerEpic5 Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Edler is not going to go anywhere. He has already said that he wants to stay in Vancouver. And with the kind of season he had, don't even consider trading him. Why trade Garrison when he was the teams most productive defense man this whole year? Instead of removing key players, we should be removing players that need to be removed, Booth, Hansen and maybe even Kesler + etc and bring in key FA this year. Instead of removing Edler and Garrison, we could find a partner that can alongside play with each other. And I'm happy with the the 6th overall pick. We should be drafting the BPA if the top 5 are taken. I'm sick and tired of stupid damn proposals that will never get threw. And I don't think Florida would be willing to give away there 1st overall. OP: the second trade seems legit. I'd be willing to do that if we even have the 4th round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
From.The.Point Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 All these proposals are beginning to look the same. I'd be suprised if Canucks are able to pull of any deal involving any player with a NTC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katzenjammer Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 While I doubt Florida would give up the 1st over all, I should think Edmonton would consider trading their pic if Ekblad is gone by that time. A proven commodity like Edler is, not with standing his off year, exactly what the Oilers need. For the Canucks the chance to draft Reinhart and Virtanen, both tailor made for the rebuild, and home town boys, justifies the cost. For the Oilers, not really needing more young forwards on their roster, the arrival of a legitimate, Norris consideration, number one D-man makes them not just playoff bound but even a possible contender. Personally, I think the Canucks should be prepared to completely over pay. As in Edler, and as a sweetener, help for the Oiler bottom six, lets say Higgins .... coming back to the Canucks, a first, second and third round pic. While a trade like this would go some way to assure the Canucks a lottery shot, a further trade, like Kesler to Toronto, would almost guarantee a high percentage place in the lottery. Coming back to Vancouver for Kesler, lets say TO's first, 8th over all, which should net us Perlini or Ritchie, and how about Gauthier? Edmonton and Toronto become immediate playoff teams and the Canucks become contenders two years later, and if they win the McDavid lottery, well( I get dizzy just thinking about it) then they'd be prohibitive cup favorites..... hell I'm already fighting the urge to line up for the parade ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefCon1 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Van: Edler/Garrison+Hansen+ Schroeder+6th overall+ 2nd round pick for Fla: 1st overall Van: Kesler+ 4th round pick for Ana: Etem/Vatanen+ Ott: 1st+3rd round pick Use 1st overall on Ekblad and 10th overall on BPA. (Preferably Ehlers if available) Fill holes through FA's and tank the season to get a high pick in 2015 and then draft whomever. This is my first proposal so I'm new to this, so I apologize if the proposals were unreasonable/horrible. Thoughts? Edit: Assuming that they want to waive their NTC's. Kesler would waive to ANA to take a serious run at the cup, and maybe not Edler but Garrison might waive to go back to Florida and be part of their rebuild instead waiting for Vancouver to finish rebuilding their team. That is a lot we are giving up. I'd rather keep the 2nd round pick and Schroeder. Just give them Edler and our 6th, which could be enough if they want to get some d-man that is NHL ready and another top six forward in the top 10. Giving our 2nd round pick which is more close to a late 1st round is a no go for me. I think a new GM like Benning could use that pick to get us a future impact player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefCon1 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 1st trade huge overpayment as edler or Garrison alone can net us a 1st in this years draft and or more as per the leagues usual hunger for blue liners. 2nd trade....we don't even have a 4th this year if I recall There is no way they would trade a 1st overall for either Edler or Garrison who aren't top pairing D-men. We would have to give up our 6th pick overall but I do agree that the OP is giving up way too much by including Hansen, Schroeder and 2nd round pick. That is like 5 good pieces going the other way for only 1 great piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefCon1 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Edler or garrison won't get you the first overall haha. I'm not even an edler hater but after the season he just had there's no way anyone would trade Ekblad for him. To OP, If you want that pick, start with our 2 best prospects and there's no way it's worth it for us. You can't just offer up all our expendable assets to try and equal up the value. It's gotta be top quality young players.. Your looking at Horvat and Kassian to get Florida thinking hey this might make us a better team than if we draft first overall... That's why the first overall never gets traded, because your shooting yourself in the foot trading for it. Now you are just talking crazy. Horvat is the 9th overall pick last year and Kassian was a top 10 pick who is developing well plus you also include our 6th? Horvat and Kassian are untouchable unless you mean we trade one of them with a low pick for the 1st overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefCon1 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 Edler is not going to go anywhere. He has already said that he wants to stay in Vancouver. And with the kind of season he had, don't even consider trading him. Why trade Garrison when he was the teams most productive defense man this whole year? Instead of removing key players, we should be removing players that need to be removed, Booth, Hansen and maybe even Kesler + etc and bring in key FA this year. Instead of removing Edler and Garrison, we could find a partner that can alongside play with each other. And I'm happy with the the 6th overall pick. We should be drafting the BPA if the top 5 are taken. I'm sick and tired of stupid damn proposals that will never get threw. And I don't think Florida would be willing to give away there 1st overall. OP: the second trade seems legit. I'd be willing to do that if we even have the 4th round pick. Florida would gift wrap their 1st overall if as OP suggested, we traded Kassian, Horvat and our 6th overall (which could be Ritchie or if they get lucky, Dal Colle). They would be dumb to not trade their 1st overall for that package which includes a power forward, a 2 way center and possibly another power forward or maybe a skilled winger. That would be a complete future 2nd line. Again, I would never do that trade since its an overpayment on the Canucks part, even if we did get Ekblad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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