Franz Liszt Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Title says all. I'd like to get another top-10 pick in this draft to get Dal Colle & Virtanen, two wingers with incredible skill. These two guys would speed up our re-build / re-tool. Future top-9 Shinkaruk Horvat Kassian Dal Colle Cassels Virtanen Fox Gaunce Grenier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Song Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where's Wellwood Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 I would actually consider doing the opposite. Trading our pick this year for a top 10 pick in the 2015 draft. It's supposedly much deeper, whereas this year anybody outside the top 5 is a crapshoot and we're sitting at 6th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Linden sounds like he wants this team playoff ready tomorrow. Any chance he wants to move both 2014 and 2015 1st rounders? :0 Hopefully we move next years for another top 10 this year. Preferably top 5. I don't think we are this bad next year. Is a 15-25 pick next year better then another top 10 this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.53 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 It all depends on the package. If it means getting a top five pick without getting rid of our 6th, than I would definitely consider it. It all really depends on whether you think you're going to make playoffs next year. If you honestly think you are, than you might as well make the investment and take a top pick now instead of a late first later, but if you don't make playoffs and say land bottom 10, you would have possibly screwed yourself. Then again, a top 5 pick is a top 5 pick. I'll say, it all depends on the package but yes, I'm totally open to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Did Monty Hall think up this post?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absent Canuck Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Next years draft is way too deep to screw around with the pick . Teams like the Ducks, Kings, Sharks Hawks, Bruins and Pens probably would consider it. St Louis as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valentine Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Not even for a moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Sounds great, what could go wrong? - Brian Burke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 I would actually consider doing the opposite. Trading our pick this year for a top 10 pick in the 2015 draft. It's supposedly much deeper, whereas this year anybody outside the top 5 is a crapshoot and we're sitting at 6th. While I think the players in our range are good enough to stick with drafting them. I don't think it's a bad idea to trade for a draft pick next year, but also recognize the risk in trying to project a top 10 draft pick in next year's draft. In that scenario, who would be a guarantee to have not only a lottery pick but at least a top 10 yet wouldn't want more back than just our 1st this year? Buffalo is probably going to be in that bottom 5 in the league, but won't give up their pick that easy. Florida, Calgary and Edmonton have been saying they'll improve and maybe could. The Islanders have to be better at some point (could we get that from Buffalo?), but maybe Carolina or even Toronto falls. Would any of those teams, or other teams that reasonably could be in line for a top 10 pick, want to trade their 2015 1st for a 6th overall this year? What if we do so and they turn out to be a 11-14 pick, or even a 15+ pick, is that still acceptable worth for the 6th overall this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Sounds great, what could go wrong? - Brian Burke Haha, and it's a fair point! I think a lot of the discussion would be completely different if we could see into the future for what our plans our with trades and free agent signings. Trading Kesler and Edler for picks/prospects would obviously colour people's answers considerably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Preferably not next years first but man that is a sexy looking future top six Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where's Wellwood Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 While I think the players in our range are good enough to stick with drafting them. I don't think it's a bad idea to trade for a draft pick next year, but also recognize the risk in trying to project a top 10 draft pick in next year's draft. In that scenario, who would be a guarantee to have not only a lottery pick but at least a top 10 yet wouldn't want more back than just our 1st this year? Buffalo is probably going to be in that bottom 5 in the league, but won't give up their pick that easy. Florida, Calgary and Edmonton have been saying they'll improve and maybe could. The Islanders have to be better at some point (could we get that from Buffalo?), but maybe Carolina or even Toronto falls. Would any of those teams, or other teams that reasonably could be in line for a top 10 pick, want to trade their 2015 1st for a 6th overall this year? What if we do so and they turn out to be a 11-14 pick, or even a 15+ pick, is that still acceptable worth for the 6th overall this year? That's the risk right? I don't know enough about the 2015 draft beyond McDavid to say where the top tier cut-off seems to be next year. There's also the possibility of the trade not being just pick for pick. Pieces could be added to one or both sides to offset the uncertainty of the team's placement. Also keep in mind that in addition to the 2015 pick we get back, we'd still have our own 2015 pick. Since I don't see this team making the playoffs next year (we'll still likely do better than this year), a good question is whether two 2015 picks in the 10-15 range (assuming the team we get the pick from misses the playoffs but doesn't wasn't terrible) is better than the 6th overall this year and one pick in the 10-15 range of the 2015 draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastDave Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Nope. I read somewhere in next year's draft the top 20 is like this year's top 5. Also, the top 5 next year is at a higher level than this year's top 5. I would be all in favor of getting more first round picks for next year draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthWestNuck Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 I'm probably one of the few who would agree with you. I believe our pick next year will be a lot lower. This year was a bit on an anomaly. Combine that with Lindens comment about getting back into the playoffs next year, I could see us picking 15th to 20th next year. I would love to see us package next years 1st with this years 3rd or 2nd and maybe a role player or B level prospect (Gaunce?) to try to get the top pick of this draft. Then see if you can get a bite on moving our 6th over all with our 2nd or 3rd round to get into the top 3-5. I think it would be more beneficial being able to add Ekblad and Reinhart to our core then waiting for a "deeper" draft we probably won't pick very high in. In three to five years a core of Tanev, Ekblad, Subban (hopefully), Jensen, Kassian, Cassels, Fox, Horvat, Shinkaruk, Lack, Reinhart, seems pretty deep to me... Course I may just be dreaming... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 I'm probably one of the few who would agree with you. I believe our pick next year will be a lot lower. This year was a bit on an anomaly. Combine that with Lindens comment about getting back into the playoffs next year, I could see us picking 15th to 20th next year. That's exactly what the Leafs/Burke thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastDave Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Well if you want to speed up the rebuild or retool, I suppose we could trade our 6th overall pick from this year for someone drafted from an earlier draft year. Since Linden would prefer a defencemen, but none are in the range with our pick, we could trade our 6th pick to a team like Buffalo who are solid prospect-wise with their defencemen for the likes of Ristolainen or Zadorov (drafted 8th and 16th from the 2013 draft). Buffalo on the other hand need forwards and the spot where the Canucks pick have a lot of forwards. So there is a possible trade there if both teams want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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