hsedin33 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Good luck enforcing it..http://www.geek.com/news/amazon-successfully-patents-photography-against-a-white-background-1593582/ Amazon successfully patents photography against a white background For a arm of government that comes under such intense and often hostile scrutiny, you’d think the US Patent Office would try to err on the side of caution when it comes to iffy new patents. It’s still infamous for the many hundreds of perpetual motion machines still sitting in the patent room, but its approach to strategic patenting is much more damaging than a few crackpots could ever be. Allowing patents to be used to stifle innovation fundamentally contradicts the entire thesis of the Patent Office: to protect innovation and allow inventors to be rewarded for their efforts. This week, the photography blogger Udi Tirosh noticed a new patent put forward by Amazon, simply called Studio Arrangement, and it really seems to set a new bar for frivolous copyright. The subject is… photography against a white background. Really. In fairness, the definition is a bit more specific than that, requiring a semi-specific lighting setup that might legitimize this patent if that setup weren’t so utterly normal. This is the sort of lighting setup that most photography students learn early in their training. The primary patent illustration. There are more finicky aspects of the patent as well, but they’re almost absurd in how arbitrary they are; Amazon specifies the size of lens that must be used, even the ISO and f-stop settings. These settings presumably allow easy portraiture with a pure white background, and the patent description specifically states that their method does not require any post-processing such as green screen removal. What that means is that Amazon has essentially managed to patent the best camera settings for a particular type of shot. Conscientious portrait artists might now find their ideal settings, then click one setting a single notch off of perfect so as to avoid being sued. Though, of course, this patent could never be adequately enforced. Unless Amazon plans on busting shoots in progress, this seems like a rather pointless exercise — except for the lawyers who billed the hour, of course. It’s unlikely this patent got the Jeff Bezos stamp of approval, or anything close to it; the higher-up at the online retail giant probably view this issue as a headache. The specificity of the patent might just let it squeak past the chorus of objections now rising, but that same specificity is what makes it so conceptually absurd. There is an idea in patent law called “art,” which seems to apply here. Basically, if you can provide any material (art) showing that the proposed patent has been described elsewhere and earlier, the patent is not valid. If it decides to defend this patent, Amazon will argue that the requirements for lens size and camera settings set it apart from any of a few hundred intro photography textbooks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where's Wellwood Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 That is just stupid. Lost a bit of respect for Amazon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rounoush Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 So many patent trolls. Ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilight Sparkle Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 geek or kotaku-- anything from these sites i take with a grain of salt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOgRook Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Love it when people patent ideas that have been around for decades /facepalm. Ima still take my white backdrop photos... They can sue me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 But King will step in if they try to photograph candy on a white backdrop. Registered trademarks are stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Grimes Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 The only thought I had was of taking a picture of myself in front of a white background,photoshop in a few lines of "FRACK YOU AMAZON, FRACK YOU AMAZON, FRACK YOU AMAZON" and away we go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 As a photographer this is a laugh. There is literally NOTHING they can do about this. It is as easy as claiming the EXIF data was shot in Canada or the UK as it is only a recognized US patent. Added of course that there is NO way to prove without any on site evidence that the seamless edging was done in post process. And on top of that this really only affects the contracting company not the photographer as they commission the work and as they want and hold the finished product they also eat all of the responsibility. This is a smack int he face to any genuine freedoms in the US than it is an actual scare for photographers, product photographers or the like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanTSN Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Patent office = Cash grab central. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denguin Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Hey well, as a way to get back at them, I'll go view the patent and use the same layout anytime I need the perfect portrait shot for my own use! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthNinja Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 I'll just leave this here, white background and all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckster19 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Call the backdrop light grey, or yellowish light grey, as it's not truly white as true white by definition is pretty much only attainable with the explosion of an Atomic Bomb, the "white flash" so to speak and that only lasts for a fraction of a second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB007 Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 My lighting setup is different so I'm ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gross-Misconduct Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 But King will step in if they try to photograph candy on a white backdrop. Registered trademarks are stupid. I agree. As I always say... Dat ain't right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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