CynideSnipe Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Blow up the team. Trade the vast majority of the core. Including the Sedins, Burrows, Bieska, Hamhuis, etc. Keep Kesler since he's still a very good player with very good face offs. Trade for a bunch NHL ready prospects. Maybe get Jeff Skinner? Maybe get Jonathan Huberdeau? Get Darnell Nurse/Derrick Pouliot? Just get a bunch of NHL ready prospects. We're never gonna win a Cup with our core right now. May as well blow it up. I'm not saying we have to be like Edmonton. Hell no. But just a rebuild.. Never again, do I ever want to see a repeat off this.. May seem like a while back, and I know it is. But that's why we need to change our core COMPLETELY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsiders Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 mise well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gstank29 Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 If we do what you say, that is going to happen a lot more often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surtur Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 I wouldn't expect our new GM to make a drastic change where it's a full rebuild. But enough so there's a change and it's more of a re-tool than a rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peaches5 Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 The Sedins cannot be traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnLocke Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Blow up the team. Trade the vast majority of the core. Including the Sedins, Burrows, Bieska, Hamhuis, etc. Keep Kesler since he's still a very good player with very good face offs. Trade for a bunch NHL ready prospects. Maybe get Jeff Skinner? Maybe get Jonathan Huberdeau? Get Darnell Nurse/Derrick Pouliot? Just get a bunch of NHL ready prospects. We're never gonna win a Cup with our core right now. May as well blow it up. I'm not saying we have to be like Edmonton. Hell no. But just a rebuild.. Never again, do I ever want to see a repeat off this.. May seem like a while back, and I know it is. But that's why we need to change our core COMPLETELY. Man you need to wake up and realize that it's not NHL14 be a gm mode in real life. A rebuild of the type you're describing is impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo Horvat Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 The Sedin's are going to retire as Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brocklovich Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 To many NTCs to fully blow up shop, also while I want the team to miss the playoffs for a season or 2 in order to get some higher picks to re-stock the cupboard and have some of the younger players get chances it will also (hopefully) create internal competition within the organization with having your AHL team preparing and having prospects that can legitimately challenge for NHL spots, that to me is a key reason why this team has gone stale & stagnant there has been VERY little push from the minors for young guys pushing for NHL spots. Being bad but having some veterans around should help the young players develop and not accept the losing atmosphere that has taken over in Edmonton. I do think a forward or 2 has to be moved as does a Dman which I figure the new GM will try and determine when he gets named. Moving Kesler will sting but if the new GM can get damn good value back for him (2015 1st + Prospect + 2014 2nd / 3rd would be an ideal starting point IMHO) and could potentially turn around the future of the franchise if the GM they bring in is a good at determining solid overall talent. With a 6th overall this year (again fingers crossed one of the top 5 fall to us, highly doubtful since the top 5 is pretty unanimous) & another top 5 + (if Kes or another forward is dealt) mid / late in 2015 + whatever else they can grab via the trade or via free college prospects the future looks a lot better than the doom and gloom folks say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William_Clarkson Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Just because you did that in NHL 14 doesn't mean it's going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgerKing Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 It's been reported Canucks aren't interested in a full rebuild, goal is to make playoffs next year. I don't think this is just lip service either, if canucks lose fans don't show up, Aquilini will not patiently lose money with no guarantee that we are getting better. Only way to get better by sucking is to be drafting high at the right time, Col gets MacKinnon, Landeskog, Duschene while Oilers get Hall, Nuge and Yakopov. Hardly seems fair. There are teams out there that have been rebuilding for years, look at the Jets, panthers, cbj, dal, nj, tor, nyi, car, buf. Teams with good intentions and intelligent people incharge are having difficulties attaining success, total rebuild only promises you a lot of losing and waiting. Better to follow the boston/detroit model, success breeds more success, have guys who know and expect to win show the younger players how to be pros. Despite all the Torts drama last year the locker room appears still functional thanks to the leadership of Sedins, Burrows, Hamhuis and Bieksa. Lead by example, answer the tough questions and work your but off to get better, that's what the Sedins, particularly Hank will impress upon the next generation of Canucks. This along with better drafting is a better plan for success than trading all players and deliberately losing for a bunch of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweathog Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Blow up the team. Trade the vast majority of the core. Including the Sedins, Burrows, Bieska, Hamhuis, etc. Keep Kesler since he's still a very good player with very good face offs. So, trade all.the guys who want to stay, and keep the one guy who might want to move? Makes sense.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenDrinkin Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 We should be able to win with the Sedins, as long as they are not our top line (unless it's deserved) and as long as their identity is not the teams. A retool could work, and tanking doesn't guarantee success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 This sounds like it may be MG trolling us. Let's trade the players that want to be here but keep the only one that doesn't want to (kess), we've see how that works out... Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoast Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 There are about six teams right now that are well oiled playoff machines.There isn't a magic trade uo there that will potentially put the Canucks in that category.Unless they trade the blue chip assets and picks.If they do trade the young assets and picks,they have two to three attempts at getting through that proven playoff group.Then they will have absolutely nothing.36 year old overpaid players about to retire.Zero assets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William_Clarkson Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 There are about six teams right now that are well oiled playoff machines.There isn't a magic trade uo there that will potentially put the Canucks in that category.Unless they trade the blue chip assets and picks.If they do trade the young assets and picks,they have two to three attempts at getting through that proven playoff group.Then they will have absolutely nothing.36 year old overpaid players about to retire.Zero assets. Look up "no trade clause", seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Just because you did that in NHL 14 doesn't mean it's going to happen.I did that in NHL 2014 and it was amazingMacKinnon - Duchene - E. KaneBurrows - Kesler - LandeskogKassian - Huberdeau - HigginsGagne - Santorelli - BriereBieksa - HamhiusTanev - GarrisonR. Murray - HamiltonSchniederLack :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Rebuilds are only as good as the draft in the years the team tanks. Chicago lucked out; not so much Edm. How many rebuilt teams are in the top tier these days... Chicago yes Ana no SJ no La not really Boston no Pits yes NYR no Mon no Phil no TB sort of (kind of like LA) I don't think a rebuild is the way to go for Van. Team needs to be smart with trades and drafting. There is potential to move a couple of core players and bring in some younger guys. Add a couple of the prospects who are looking to make the jump and you have quite a different looking team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brocklovich Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 It's been reported Canucks aren't interested in a full rebuild, goal is to make playoffs next year. I don't think this is just lip service either, if canucks lose fans don't show up, Aquilini will not patiently lose money with no guarantee that we are getting better. Only way to get better by sucking is to be drafting high at the right time, Col gets MacKinnon, Landeskog, Duschene while Oilers get Hall, Nuge and Yakopov. Hardly seems fair. There are teams out there that have been rebuilding for years, look at the Jets, panthers, cbj, dal, nj, tor, nyi, car, buf. Teams with good intentions and intelligent people incharge are having difficulties attaining success, total rebuild only promises you a lot of losing and waiting. Better to follow the boston/detroit model, success breeds more success, have guys who know and expect to win show the younger players how to be pros. Despite all the Torts drama last year the locker room appears still functional thanks to the leadership of Sedins, Burrows, Hamhuis and Bieksa. Lead by example, answer the tough questions and work your but off to get better, that's what the Sedins, particularly Hank will impress upon the next generation of Canucks. This along with better drafting is a better plan for success than trading all players and deliberately losing for a bunch of years. Not saying your wrong but I can see CBJ being a team that might be in the playoff picture consistantly going forward. They got some good young players in their system & have some really good young guys in their line up (johansen, murray etc) Sure they were awful for many years but finally some of their young guys are contributing they can add some crafty veterans to compliment them and fill out the roster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Rebuilds are only as good as the draft in the years the team tanks. Chicago lucked out; not so much Edm. How many rebuilt teams are in the top tier these days... Chicago yes Ana no SJ no La not really Boston no Pits yes NYR no Mon no Phil no TB sort of (kind of like LA) I don't think a rebuild is the way to go for Van. Team needs to be smart with trades and drafting. There is potential to move a couple of core players and bring in some younger guys. Add a couple of the prospects who are looking to make the jump and you have quite a different looking team. This is somewhat true, but isn't Edmonton the victim of their own choices? They'd be a much different team if they had selected Murray rather than Yakupov, Landescog rather than RNH, or Seguin over Hall (assuming they still got the chance to draft these players). I'm not saying the guys they took were bad choices, just that their team might have been a bit further along with different choices. regards, G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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