Lychees Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/iihf-bans-spin-o-ramas-in-shootout--penalty-shots-in-new-rule-change-161308420.html The spin-o-rama in the overtime shootout has always been a contentious matter. Some feel they violate the basic rule of the skills competition, which is that the puck needs to always be moving forward towards the opposing goal. Some (raises hand) feel that the shootout, if it needs to exist, should have an anything goes approach that maximizes the fun in what is essentially an entertaining mechanism to end the game without continuous overtimes. Well, the IIHF has decided that spin-o-ramas have no place in international hockey shootouts, as beginning next season they’ve been banned from use in any sort of penalty shot. That was one of 19 rules changes the IIHF Rules Congress voted on and approved on Saturday. The previous rule read: The 'spin-o-rama' type of move where the player completes a 360° turn as he approaches the goal, shall be permitted as it involves continuous forward motion. The new rule reads: Spin-o-rama or lacrosse type of moves in penalty shots where the player completes a 360° turn as he approaches the goal will be prohibited. Guess they did a 180 on that decision … The NHL’s general managers have debated the legality of the shootout before, but as of now differs from the IIHF on its use. The current NHL rule book reads: The spin-o-rama type move where the player completes a 360° turn as he approaches the goal, shall be permitted as this involves continuous motion. However, should the puck come to a complete stop at any time during the shot attempt, the shot shall be stopped and no goal will be the result. Just because the IIHF passes a rule doesn’t mean the NHL will follow suit, but this is an important vote against the spin-o-rama in the shootout and on penalty shots. Which should make shooters that have perfected it and fans that love it a little bummed. But we’re sure Marty Brodeur doesn’t mind: Should the NHL ban spin-o-ramas? Think the NHL will follow suit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_Page Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 NHL shouldn't ban them all together but they definitely need to enforce them more. i hate the players who stop on a dime and spin like the mason raymond ones. it should be a more fluid motion like the Grabovski one a couple years back. basically if you stop at all it shouldn't be allowed but i could be a little bias being a goalie myself. Edit found a couple links of what i think should be legal and what shouldn't Legal:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9f1K8BNiik Illegal:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B94aNcE3v2M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Grimes Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 I wish they'd just get rid of the damn shootout all together. It's a damn disgrace for teams to lose in a shootout/game of horse after 65 minutes of actually playing hockey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Turf Shootout. Problem solved. Gimmick sucks, Canucks suck at Shootouts. Scrap it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grapefruits Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Turf Shootout. Problem solved. Gimmick sucks, Canucks suck at Shootouts. Scrap it. While I agree the shootout is stupid. I'm willing to bet if the Canucks were awesome at it, people around here wouldn't be saying, scrap it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lychees Posted May 26, 2014 Author Share Posted May 26, 2014 Turf Shootout. Problem solved. Gimmick sucks, Canucks suck at Shootouts. Scrap it. And penalty shots? Problem not solved. Honestly I'd rather there a SO than 1 OT & a tie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toni Zamboni Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 hopefully they ban it in the nhl as well or better yet, get rid of the shootout altogether. from post #2, mayray's spin o rama never should have counted...definitely illegal imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Grimes Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 And penalty shots? Problem not solved. Honestly I'd rather there a SO than 1 OT & a tie. Oh please, the number of shootouts vs the number of penalty shots in a year isn't even close to the same #. It's a stupid gimmick and you didn't really defend it with anything other than "Honestly I'd rather there a SO than 1 OT and a tie." What they SHOULD do is add in the same format they use during the playoffs. Broadcast limits? Stream it and start shoving game centre down people's throats; remove local blackouts after they've gone off the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lychees Posted May 26, 2014 Author Share Posted May 26, 2014 Oh please, the number of shootouts vs the number of penalty shots in a year isn't even close to the same #. It's a stupid gimmick and you didn't really defend it with anything other than "Honestly I'd rather there a SO than 1 OT and a tie." What they SHOULD do is add in the same format they use during the playoffs. Broadcast limits? Stream it and start shoving game centre down people's throats; remove local blackouts after they've gone off the air. Please, regardless of the # you still didn't address the issue of the spin-o-rama, you addressed what you believe to be the validity of the shootout. Players still do the move in penalties shot. If you want to talk about the validity of shootouts and alternatives, go make a thread about it by all means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbox Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 While I agree the shootout is stupid. I'm willing to bet if the Canucks were awesome at it, people around here wouldn't be saying, scrap it. I'd still say scrap it either way. it's a terrible way to decide 2 points. Should be 10 minutes of OT, if still no winner then neither team deserves 2 points. 1 each. And if a team wins in that 10 minutes, the other team shouldnt get any points. Losing is losing. Points should not be awarded for waiting an extra few minutes to lose. To the thread: Banning one particular move is really stupid..... It's a legal move players practice and now it's gone. So dumb. Penalty shots would be a lot more exciting too without the shootout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Shootouts are both boring to watch, and an awful way to end a game. Making overtime longer and/or implementing 3-on-3 play in OT would be far better options. I'd rather see a tie at the end than a shootout. Scrapping the loser point would also be nice. If it takes you 65 minutes to lose you are still a loser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_Page Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Please, regardless of the # you still didn't address the issue of the spin-o-rama, you addressed what you believe to be the validity of the shootout. Players still do the move in penalties shot. If you want to talk about the validity of shootouts and alternatives, go make a thread about it by all means. The way this thread is going you might have to change the name to "the official shootout hate thread" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 The spin-o-rama's not a big deal to me, but like others have mentioned I'd like to see the shootout disappear. Tack on more overtime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockeyville88 Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Good. It's a ridiculous move. That kind of showboating shouldn't be needed to put a small disc into a very large net. Shoot the freaking puck with accuracy and it'll go in, Signed, A goalie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apples Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 I like the Spin o ramas, makes the shootouts more fun to watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mephnick Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 We wouldn't want this stupid gimmick to be fun for anyone, would we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimberWolf Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 The way this thread is going you might have to change the name to "the official shootout hate thread"The quoted OP has a line that supports shootouts in it.So it's fair that those that dislike shootouts respond with their own opinion.Anyways, shootouts suck and would rather a game end in a tie instead of a silly gimmick. (and yes, I felt the same when the Canucks would win shootout games as well)but if we have to have them at least have the rules in place as the Raymond special seems to violate the forward motion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Colt 45s Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 I think they should scrap the shoot out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai604 Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 I personally am not a fan of the shootout, and moreso, I can't stand the current format where the losing team gets a point. Those three-point games really muck up the standings and give the league a false sense of parity. I understand that the games need to end, but perhaps exploring other ways (such as 3v3 OT) would be more interesting to watch and not as much of a crapshoot as shootouts are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
touchable Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 I personally am not a fan of the shootout, and moreso, I can't stand the current format where the losing team gets a point. Those three-point games really muck up the standings and give the league a false sense of parity. I understand that the games need to end, but perhaps exploring other ways (such as 3v3 OT) would be more interesting to watch and not as much of a crapshoot as shootouts are. What if you play an hour of 3 on 3 and the game still hasn't ended? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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