[Proposal] Benning making a splash at the draft (Kesler gone+get Reinhart)

[TheRussianRocket.]

< 1. > Kesler + 3rd rounder for Alex Killorn, Slater Koekkek, Tampa 17th overall

Tampa acquires Kesler making them a much more stronger playoff team. They give up Killorn who can be compensated for by giving Kucherov more minutes and bigger roles next year. Lightning don't really have to worry about replacing one prospect as they are pretty stacked there. Also Koekkek (pronounced coo-coo ) strengthens our backend prospect pool. Solid all around defender with sure offensive upside. Good skating and pushes/skates the puck up the ice with ease plus we get Tampa's 17th overall pick.

< 2. > VAN 6th overall, TBL 17th overall, Mallet, Hansen for Florida 1st overall, Florida 4th rounder

Florida gains 2 first round picks and them being reportedly high on Ehlers gives them a solid chance at getting him plus another 1st round pick to work with. Get a depth forward prospect in Mallet and a depth forward in Hansen. Panthers have a number of good young dmen and need help upfront and this deal can help them. Nucks get to pick Reinhart and can possibly trade the 1st overall for Buffalo 2nd overall+ if Sabres agree to pick Ekblad at 1 giving more return value and taking Reinhart at 2 potentially.

< 3. > Signings

Santorelli 2 years x $1.5 mill per, mentor for Reinhart. Kassian 2 years x $2 mill per. Tanev 3 years x $3 mill per. Meszaros 3 years x $3.5 mill per, added depth. Hiller 2 years x $3.5 mill per, gives Lack some time to get a hold of the crease slowly instead of rushing it and damaging him.

ROSTER:

Dank - Hank - Jensen

Killorn - Reinhart - Santorelli

Matthias - Horvat - Kassian

Higgins - Richardson - Burrows

Sestito

Hamhuis - Bieksa

Edler - Tanev

Garrison - Meszaros

Stanton, Weber

Hiller

Lack

[L. Stanley]

These are actually great proposals, the florida one might have to be a bit sweeter, but I like what you've done.

[Caboose]

Proposals are OK, but the values on those signings are WAY off.

3.5 M for Hiller?

[Derp...]

Not bad, I would believe those deals which is a change from most CDC proposals.

[TheRussianRocket.]

Proposals are OK, but the values on those signings are WAY off.

3.5 M for Hiller?

He's currently getting 4.5 and he's 32 years old. Doubt anyone gives him more than he's currently getting...almost the same as the Miller situation. He's old and can be productive still but teams know it won't be worth it. Honestly I'd be surprised if any team gives Hiller more than 4 mill.

[L. Stanley]

Proposals are OK, but the values on those signings are WAY off.

3.5 M for Hiller?

i think these are better than "OK" - we end up with a future 1C, another top 6 forward prospect and another top 4D prospect, without giving up any of our youth. The signings are a little off but totally realistic

Ksssian - more of a 1.75 x2 years, Tanev at 3 mill is very likely but I would prefer 2.75 mill, Santorelli is right on the monry and Hiller is taking a pay cut here, which he should be there will be other teams trying to get him at that price

[canucks155]

1. I like the 1st deal

2. I think Florida would rather have Ekblad seeing as they they're really thin on defensive prospects and have Barkov, Bjugdstad, Huberdeu, Pirri, Howden, etc. If they didn't want him tho, I think it's a fair deal for both sides if we threw in a 2nd.

3. Kassian = $2.5m

Tanev = $3-3.5m

Mezaros = $4-4.5m

Hiller = $5-5.5m

[TheRussianRocket.]

1. I like the 1st deal

2. I think Florida would rather have Ekblad seeing as they they're really thin on defensive prospects and have Barkov, Bjugdstad, Huberdeu, Pirri, Howden, etc. If they didn't want him tho, I think it's a fair deal for both sides if we threw in a 2nd.

3. Kassian = $2.5m

Tanev = $3-3.5m

Mezaros = $4-4.5m

Hiller = $5-5.5m

Huberdeau and Barkov are the only real prospects with top talent. Pirri is Schroeder 2.0 and Howden still has to develop before he hits the bigs.

Kassian won't be getting that much imo. Tanev one is pretty much what I said. Meszaros can get between 3.5-4 so that's debatable but not a big deal and Hiller won't get anywhere near that I believe.

[L. Stanley]

for the florida trade - we could always get edler to waive and then do Edler + 6th for the 1st overall

then send 17th, Killorn, 2nd to buffalo for the 2nd overall and draft ekblad and reinhart

= out Edler, Kesler, 6th

in = 1st, 2nd overall, slater Koekkoek

[TheRussianRocket.]

for the florida trade - we could always get edler to waive and then do Edler + 6th for the 1st overall

then send 17th, Killorn, 2nd to buffalo for the 2nd overall and draft ekblad and reinhart

Florida has zero interest in Edler. They'd want young pieces, not a player who's solidified his bad tendencies.

[SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME]

Mezaros = $4-4.5m

Mez won't be making that kind of money unless some team's GM goes crazy. It's true that the current UFA crop is very thin on PMDs and Meszaros has all the tools (great passing, mobility, and can lead the rush) plus legit NHL size (6'2", 225 lbs). However, he's also been horribly inconsistent over the past several seasons.

He earned his $4 million AAV deal on the strength of three back-to-back seasons with Ottawa where he played 82 games and put-up 35+ points. Since 2007-08, he's only broken 30 points once. The past few years, he's been injured and healthy scratched far too often. Last season, he was in the press box for a whopping 31 games (24 DNDs with Philly and 7 with Boston after the trade) through the regular season. In the playoffs, the Bruins only dressed him for 5 games and they healthy scratched him for 8.

He's coming off of two successive teams where he couldn't crack the lineup for a regular top-six spot.

That's a pretty big red flag.

Sure, he still averages around 0.40 points/game, when he plays. But his coaches are becoming less and less likely to actually play him (due to his inconsistency, defensive lapses, and questionable level of commitment).

You can argue there was strong depth on the blueline for the Bruins and the Flyers (and certainly they have some good options back there) but any guy making $4 million who can't even guarantee himself a bottom-pairing spot (on not one but his last two teams) is a guy who's going to have a hard time justifying a raise in free agency.

It's paycut time for Mez. How much I'm not sure because the market is so thin for guys with his skillset. But I can't see anyone paying him over $4 million per season. Around $3 million seems more likely (or $3.5 million like the OP suggested).

Not saying that I hate him as a player. Before Boston acquired him, I actually hoped we could trade for him on a retained salary deal (and then resign him for a reduced cap hit). I think he's still a good reclamation project and the Canucks (unlike the Bruins) are really lacking in Ds with his particular skillset.

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[Canuck Surfer]

Florida has zero interest in Edler. They'd want young pieces, not a player who's solidified his bad tendencies.

In fairness to you, Edler does probably need a rebound year before we he has a premium trade value again. Prove that his back is not causing the mobility and lateral movement issues that saw him walked around so many times this year. But his Olympic performance suggests that at least part of his problem was just misuse.

Everyone should admit a Edler / Campbell PP looks imposing? Florida also has a new owner, a reported willingness to spend to the cap and an also reported objective to get aggressive to be competitive. They already have some of the leagues best young talent. Edler, if he was healthy, makes a lot of sense.

[Toews]

Huberdeau and Barkov are the only real prospects with top talent. Pirri is Schroeder 2.0 and Howden still has to develop before he hits the bigs.

Kassian won't be getting that much imo. Tanev one is pretty much what I said. Meszaros can get between 3.5-4 so that's debatable but not a big deal and Hiller won't get anywhere near that I believe.

I haven't seen a lot of Howden but Pirri is nothing like Schroeder. Pirri has the offensive talent to succeed in this league. He was pretty decent in his stint with the Hawks but Q did not really give him much of a chance since his defensive game was a bit lacking. I think under the right coach he has definite room for improvement. Unfortunately though the Panthers do not have the most talented of wingers so its natural that Pirri's did not produce much.

[TheRussianRocket.]

I haven't seen a lot of Howden but Pirri is nothing like Schroeder. Pirri has the offensive talent to succeed in this league. He was pretty decent in his stint with the Hawks but Q did not really give him much of a chance since his defensive game was a bit lacking. I think under the right coach he has definite room for improvement. Unfortunately though the Panthers do not have the most talented of wingers so its natural that Pirri's did not produce much.

True. Why them getting Ehlers makes sense too cause he's a dynamic winger. They have Huberdeau, Barkov, Bjugstad at centre so they don't really need a centre. Kulikov, Gudranson, Petrovic at D. Ekblad would be the icing on the cake for that D but atm, they need a winger more than anything.

It is the best option to take the best player available especially with 1st overall but at the same time it may backfire like it has to Edmonton. Kept on taking the bpa and they never looked at the team positionally and we all know how they've turned out to be now. Bit of a risk to trade away #1 but if it benefits your positional needs and gives you added assets and pieces, it's something you have to consider.

[Madness]

Not bad trades

If you trade up to #1 you have to take the best player and in my opinion that would be Ekblad.

[TheRussianRocket.]

Not bad trades

If you trade up to #1 you have to take the best player and in my opinion that would be Ekblad.

True to a certain extent. Like I said just above you if you missed it:

It is the best option to take the best player available especially with 1st overall but at the same time it may backfire like it has to Edmonton. Kept on taking the bpa and they never looked at the team positionally and we all know how they've turned out to be now. Bit of a risk to trade away #1 but if it benefits your positional needs and gives you added assets and pieces, it's something you have to consider.

Likewise, BPA usually is the way to go but our offense is the biggest problem. We actually have some pretty talented d prospects but not so offense. Past 3-4 years you can recall, Nucks problem has been goal scoring. Getting Reinhart imo would solidify that forward position and let us focus more on defense the coming years in the early rounds.

A young forward group consisting of these developed players in the NHL in 2-4 years:

Killorn - Reinhart - Jensen

Shinkaruk - Horvat - Kassian

Gaunce - Cassels - Fox

Zalewski. And Matthias who will be in his late 20's by the time this happens though.

...that is incredible potential. Probably won't be exactly that but point is adding Reinhart solves the forward group.

[Time Lord]

This is a good proposal. But in the lineup, switch Matthias and Burrows. Also we should get rid of Higgins because he shouldn't be a 4th liner on a rebuilding team. He deserves better, and actually has trade value.

Drafting Reinhart would be the right move. In almost every draft, the best forward ends up better than the best defenseman. Also we finished 28th in goal scoring this year. Ekblad is not the BPA. He's the most NHL ready player available, but I think he'll just be a top pair D-man, not a Norris calibre D-man. Maybe he'll end up like Schenn or Gudbranson. Reinhart will probably be a 80-90 point top line center.

[elvis15]

1. I don't know, I guess it depends on how comfortable they are with the centers they have. Johnson and Filppula took the majority of draws this year while Thompson was solid as well. Stamkos was used less than those guys on draws even in the playoffs, so they'd have to really want to upgrade to force one of those players to the wing or to be moved in a deal. Then there's Killorn, who you suggest we take back, but also Namestnikov coming up in the system so if anything I'd think they'd only make this as a secondary move to improving their top 4 D - especially since they'd have to think long and hard about moving Koekkoek rather than bring him in as an inexpensive option to help.
2. Maybe there isn't as much enticing talent at 17th, but it's not far off of some of the decent players in the top half of the draft. I'd be tempted to keep it rather than throw it in with the 6th and Hansen. Mallet doesn't add much for them, they're already deep in centers.

[TheRussianRocket.]

This is a good proposal. But in the lineup, switch Matthias and Burrows. Also we should get rid of Higgins because he shouldn't be a 4th liner on a rebuilding team. He deserves better, and actually has trade value.

Drafting Reinhart would be the right move. In almost every draft, the best forward ends up better than the best defenseman. Also we finished 28th in goal scoring this year. Ekblad is not the BPA. He's the most NHL ready player available, but I think he'll just be a top pair D-man, not a Norris calibre D-man. Maybe he'll end up like Schenn or Gudbranson. Reinhart will probably be a 80-90 point top line center.

I think Having Matthias beside Horvat would be better than Burrows. Simply because you have another centre to teach him and have as a shoulder/guide. Kind of like how Santo would be beside Reinhart helping him.

And yea. Even though Ekblad is the BPA available again doesn't mean take him. Reminds me of the Seth Jones situation. Was projected #1 but Avs took Mackinnon (they needed help at forward which he finally solidified for them) and Jones dropped quite a bit at 4th.

[DrChill]

Don't like your lines.

Where is Markstrom? Did u trade him? If not he isn't going to AHL, because he has to go through waivers and will be claimed.