Gstank29 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 If they canucks do get the 1st overall pick and draft Sam Reinhart, does he make the team next? From what i've heard he seems like he is big enough (6'1 190) to step in right away, and with the need for a offensive 2nd line centre(since Kesler was traded) do we rush him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket. Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 If they canucks do get the 1st overall pick and draft Sam Reinhart, does he make the team next? From what i've heard he seems like he is big enough (6'1 190) to step in right away, and with the need for a offensive 2nd line centre(since Kesler was traded) do we rush him? I say yea, slot him in with the big group right away. 1st overall is 1st overall for a reason - has the most potential to become and NHL impact player the quickest. He plays a mature game and his body frame isn't a problem, it's NHL calibre actually. Plus he'd get to play under Hank and learn a lot from him before the twins get up there in age. He'd basically take over Kesler's duty on the 2nd line but maybe not the PK and stuff to the extent Kes did. He can move around 2nd/3rd line centre with Matthias assuming Horvat isn't on the team. If Horvat is, I'd assume Santorelli plays wing on the 2nd along Reinhart as a mentor and on the 3rd, Matthias plays wing alongside Bo as a mentor. Would make the most sense imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdatb Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 EDIT: Another thread about Reinhart? We haven't even gotten the 1st pick yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken. Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Short answer: It depends, personally I would think he needs to develop a bit more before making the jump. Anything can happen at training camp though especially with new personnel within the organization who may have an agenda we don't know of. Long answer: See other threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 The answer is NO We have enough depth at C to fake a 2nd line center. Schroeder could break out, Santorelli could slot in we could push Horvat in to the line up. Rushing that 1st overall in to the league is beyond foolish. I have been very vocal about stating how our prospects should spend a minimum of 1 year in the AHL to ensure a solid development program. We have an AHL team of our own, we can control the development process of our youth. We should take serious advantage of it. If Kesler gets traded so be it, we walk with what we have. No need rushing anyone in to the line up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 you should never rush your prospects...you can screw them up with pushing them into situations that they are not ready for yet.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honeydew Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 We seriously need another thread like this after 109021348093284092 of them out there already? As for the first overall, if it was Ekblad yes, Reinhart maybe not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spur1 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Should we get the first pick we should draft Ekblad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanGnome Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 And players will always determine if they are ready or not. You can't have this umbrella approach saying that all prospects must follow path x in order to achieve result y. It just doesn't work that way, if the player is ready, the player is ready. What the determining factor is, in a lot of cases, is the existing depth on the NHL roster, right now we're thin at 2nd line center, of which Santorelli and Schroeder are not. Every player develops differently, and are at different levels of maturity both physically and mentally, so every situation is unique. Before you reach for your strawman argument and point to the Brule and Filatov's of the league, let me remind you that those prospects were rushed out of desperation. The short of it is, IF we end up with the 1st overall, and IF Kesler is traded and IF Reinhart is indeed drafted and IF Reinhart is ready, then yes he will be on the roster, otherwise he won't be. Bottom line, is we just don't know enough, and endless speculation isn't going to make the discussion any clearer. Besides, we're just a couple short weeks away from the draft, so let's just enjoy the ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket. Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 The answer is NO We have enough depth at C to fake a 2nd line center. Schroeder could break out, Santorelli could slot in we could push Horvat in to the line up. Rushing that 1st overall in to the league is beyond foolish. I have been very vocal about stating how our prospects should spend a minimum of 1 year in the AHL to ensure a solid development program. We have an AHL team of our own, we can control the development process of our youth. We should take serious advantage of it. If Kesler gets traded so be it, we walk with what we have. No need rushing anyone in to the line up. Bolded = disagree to the very end. I think that's a foolish statement to make really. How many 1st overall picks do you see not start right away? How many succeed? Numbers are favourable as of late. Mackinnon, Yakupov, Hopkins, Hall, Tavares, Stamkos, P.Kane, E.Johnson, Crosby, Ovechkin, Nash....I don't know why you WOULDN'T start the 1st overall pick especially if it's not a goalie and an actual player. Would be more stupid that smart if you did that.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canacks1970 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 The answer is NO We have enough depth at C to fake a 2nd line center. Schroeder could break out, Santorelli could slot in we could push Horvat in to the line up. Rushing that 1st overall in to the league is beyond foolish. I have been very vocal about stating how our prospects should spend a minimum of 1 year in the AHL to ensure a solid development program. We have an AHL team of our own, we can control the development process of our youth. We should take serious advantage of it. If Kesler gets traded so be it, we walk with what we have. No need rushing anyone in to the line up. There is abit of a contradiction . Your vocal about prospects spending at least a year in the AHL, But you think Horvat Who is a ninth overall pick can be pushed into the lineup even though he hasn't even play one AHL game yet? Doesn't that depend on the player? Some players are ready now at 18. Would you say that it was foolish for Vancouver for keeping Linden at 18 and being a second overall pick? Has it hampered his developement over the years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Let's play all the kids! Sink or swim they will all be better players by the end of the year and if we tank so be it, let's get after Eichel or McDavid. At least we will have a good idea which of the youngsters to keep around for the year after next which might look like this: Eichel/Reinhart/Jensen Shinkaruk/Horvat/Kassain Sedins/Fox Cassels/Gaunce/Archibald or Grennier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 You should never rush prospects.....or rush to make new threads just to make a new thread! Let's see if they even move up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogbyte Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 And players will always determine if they are ready or not. You can't have this umbrella approach saying that all prospects must follow path x in order to achieve result y. It just doesn't work that way, if the player is ready, the player is ready. What the determining factor is, in a lot of cases, is the existing depth on the NHL roster, right now we're thin at 2nd line center, of which Santorelli and Schroeder are not. Every player develops differently, and are at different levels of maturity both physically and mentally, so every situation is unique. Before you reach for your strawman argument and point to the Brule and Filatov's of the league, let me remind you that those prospects were rushed out of desperation. The short of it is, IF we end up with the 1st overall, and IF Kesler is traded and IF Reinhart is indeed drafted and IF Reinhart is ready, then yes he will be on the roster, otherwise he won't be. Bottom line, is we just don't know enough, and endless speculation isn't going to make the discussion any clearer. Besides, we're just a couple short weeks away from the draft, so let's just enjoy the ride. This answer is the best. To Warhippy: See McKinnon, Palat, Johnson, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 EDIT: Another thread about Reinhart? We haven't even gotten the 1st pick yet. We seriously need another thread like this after 109021348093284092 of them out there already? As for the first overall, if it was Ekblad yes, Reinhart maybe not. You should never rush prospects.....or rush to make new threads just to make a new thread! Let's see if they even move up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberz21 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 My question is, if Reinhart wasn't from BC, would any Canucks fan consider picking him over Aaron Ekblad? Regarless my choice would be Ekblad, as it's much easier to find a stud forward than a stud defenseman (not that they are easy to find). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BureisBest Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Reinhart has the size, but more importantly, the intelligence to play the game at the NHL level. His skill speaks for itself. He should slot in right away imo and there would be peaks and valleys like any young player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BureisBest Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 My question is, if Reinhart wasn't from BC, would any Canucks fan consider picking him over Aaron Ekblad? Regarless my choice would be Ekblad, as it's much easier to find a stud forward than a stud defenseman (not that they are easy to find). My first choice would be Ekblad as well. He is years ahead of where he should be at 18. Just an absolute beast and has been since he was 15 years old. Going to be ridiculously good when he gets into his mid-20's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
From.The.Point Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 My question is, if Reinhart wasn't from BC, would any Canucks fan consider picking him over Aaron Ekblad? Regarless my choice would be Ekblad, as it's much easier to find a stud forward than a stud defenseman (not that they are easy to find). Would you take Ekblad over Reinhart if it was 6th+Horvat and leaving our forward prospects a little weaker? I personally make that trade IF you can trade one of our defence to bring something back to replace that loss of Horvat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canacks1970 Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 Let's play all the kids! Sink or swim they will all be better players by the end of the year and if we tank so be it, let's get after Eichel or McDavid. At least we will have a good idea which of the youngsters to keep around for the year after next which might look like this: Eichel/Reinhart/Jensen Shinkaruk/Horvat/Kassain Sedins/Fox Cassels/Gaunce/Archibald or Grennier Unfortunately that cannot be possible. Most of those players you have are on entry level contracts. Since the cap is going up so does the minimum salary cap ceiling in which all teams has to be obligated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.