JeremyCuddles Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 4 hours ago, GoldenAlien said: I remember watching this interview on Twitter. Funny how Jake haters have the opposite view of Jake compared to rational people. At this point it must be ingrained to just hate on the guy. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnBurner Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 17 minutes ago, N7Nucks said: I remember watching this interview on Twitter. Funny how Jake haters have the opposite view of Jake compared to rational people. At this point it must be ingrained to just hate on the guy. These guys are just bashers. Not sure what's gone wrong in their life, but they beat up on Jake, Olli, anyone like Benning on a consistent basis. It's pretty pathetic when you think about it. Jake is progressing and is getting better every year. He could play on my team every day. I guess the bottom line is these haters are trolls. It seems to give them some type of energy that feeds off of people who respond. It's a reflection of their own hatred of themselves. (sorry to say, but it's true) The best thing to do is ignore them instead of throwing them under the bridge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 9 hours ago, BarnBurner said: These guys are just bashers. Not sure what's gone wrong in their life, but they beat up on Jake, Olli, anyone like Benning on a consistent basis. It's pretty pathetic when you think about it. Jake is progressing and is getting better every year. He could play on my team every day. I guess the bottom line is these haters are trolls. It seems to give them some type of energy that feeds off of people who respond. It's a reflection of their own hatred of themselves. (sorry to say, but it's true) The best thing to do is ignore them instead of throwing them under the bridge. Like you I am happy with Jake's progress. Fans can be overly negative or positive with Virtanen. Bottom line he has to be a solid 3rd line player and any time on the 2nd is bonus and an opportunity for Jake to possibly build into more. He has all the tools to be a 2nd line player but 11 games don't make a season. What I lie about this roster is that Jake has a number of mentors who can play a game that he could copy. Miller, Ferland are the obvious but I would include Pearson and Horvat into the mix. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekey Pete Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 16 hours ago, GoldenAlien said: But, but... what about that turnover, what about fat Jake? Can we just be happy that he is playing well and cut down some of the negativity in the thread now? 1189 pages in and the usual suspects are STILL on his case at every opportunity. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kootenay Gold Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 20 minutes ago, Dekey Pete said: But, but... what about that turnover, what about fat Jake? Can we just be happy that he is playing well and cut down some of the negativity in the thread now? 1189 pages in and the usual suspects are STILL on his case at every opportunity. To hard on their ego's to admit that they just might be wrong about him. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekey Pete Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kootenay Gold said: To hard on their ego's to admit that they just might be wrong about him. The way I see it, Jake has showed maturity this year already. He started training camp in Travis' dog house, which didn't look great I'll admit, but he actually handled it very well with both the media and on ice. He's finally growing up, unfortunately it just took longer than most of us would have liked it to. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 No need for anyone to be self righteous. I think most of us have been disappointed in Jake over his first 3-4 years as a Canuck. It's taken him a long time to get to where he is today. He's only gone from okay player to pretty good player over that span, but hopefully he keeps that trajectory going in the right direction. It's perfectly acceptable to change an opinion, as more informaiton is revealed. My opinion went from "he's a bust" to "can't wait to see Jake in the playoffs". I never liked the pick at #6, but that's what was done, and it really doesn't matter. I'm glad to finally see Jake playing well and producing. He looks happy too, but who wouldn't be playing in the Top 6 on a good team. and producing. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5Fivehole0 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Kootenay Gold said: To hard on their ego's to admit that they just might be wrong about him. From a psychological standpoint they more than likely have that approach with many things. Probably stems from their own mental health. #assumptions 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WeneedLumme Posted October 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 30, 2019 54 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: No need for anyone to be self righteous. I think most of us have been disappointed in Jake over his first 3-4 years as a Canuck. It's taken him a long time to get to where he is today. He's only gone from okay player to pretty good player over that span, but hopefully he keeps that trajectory going in the right direction. It's perfectly acceptable to change an opinion, as more informaiton is revealed. My opinion went from "he's a bust" to "can't wait to see Jake in the playoffs". I never liked the pick at #6, but that's what was done, and it really doesn't matter. I'm glad to finally see Jake playing well and producing. He looks happy too, but who wouldn't be playing in the Top 6 on a good team. and producing. "can't wait to see Jake in the playoffs" is the way I felt as soon as he was drafted. I wanted Ehlers first, then Nylander, then Jake was in a tie with Kapanen and Ritchie. But as soon as I heard it was Jake, it was obvious that JB felt his physicality and speed were a valuable part of a playoff team. It would have been nice to have him develop quicker, but it is no surprise that it is taking him a while. He has great size and tools, but if he had a Petey-quality tool kit to go along with that, he would have been a first overall pick. He is a nice, coachable kid who learns at his own speed and gets better each year as he figures it out. And I think that the long wait to see Jake in the playoffs is almost over - I expect that we will see him there next spring! 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank einstein Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, 5Fivehole0 said: From a psychological standpoint they more than likely have that approach with many things. Probably stems from their own mental health. #assumptions This thread is a catch basin for people with personality issues, which is unfortunate because Virtanen has done admirably, all things considered. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Buzzsaw* Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 We have seen various threads on Jake over the years, with the posters thinking he had finally broken through... count me among them. And everytime he regressed back to his lazy style. Tough to tell if this year will be different... one difference this year is that he is now playing with Bo... who is Captain, and I know Bo holds people to a high standard with his own high level of play. Let's hope Jake watchs Bo's work effort and gets inspired to put an equal effort in. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GoldenAlien Posted October 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 30, 2019 Virtanen reminds me a bit of Brett Connolly. Also a sixth overall pick, touted as a scoring power forward, rushed into the NHL at 19 when he probably should've went back to the Dub another year. Sent down to the AHL at 20 once he was eligible, didn't establish himself as a full time NHLer until he was 22. Broke out last year with the Caps and is now on pace for a 60+ point season with the Panthers at age 27. Virtanen just turned 23 two months ago. Even then, was Connolly the best pick at No. 6? No, not when Skinner went one pick after at No. 7, and Schwarz, Tarasenko and Kuznetsov were still on the board. Similarly, Virtanen would never go top 10 in a redraft, but neither would Bennett, Dal Colle, Fleury or Ritchie. Through no fault of his own, he's been a victim of high expectations. A B.C. boy who plays a heavy game, people were hoping for Cam Neely, not Raffi Torres. Fans want a home run every year but sometimes all you get is a guy who can play. And that's what Virtanen is. He's not Ehlers or Pastrnak but he's a solid player. Benning didn't win the draft in 2014, just like Yzerman didn't win the draft in 2010, but he still got the Canucks a useful piece that can contribute to a winning team. People who poop on Virtanen because he's not better than every single guy drafted after him are being unreasonable. You would literally have to be God to pick the absolute best player every time you're at the draft table. 2 1 3 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cocolocci Posted October 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2019 So many people at this board are happy about Pearson so far. If you would look at the stats, you would see that Virtanen has a higher shooting % (20 to 5,4), 2 of his 3 goals are GWG, he has 3g for 5 points (Pearson 2g for 5P) in over 5min TOI/GP less than Pearson. Virtanen has 15 hits, same as Pearson. Virt has 5 TA to 2GA (Pearson 12TA to 6GA). Don't know what you guys want to see from him. Maybe I would say the same things, IF he hasn't improved. But year after year he has improved a bit. And thats the way it is. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JeremyCuddles Posted November 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 2, 2019 Another punish Jake game. 8 minutes of ice time, did nothing that I seen that warranted him sitting pretty much the entire 3rd period. People wonder why he plays timid. Coach gives him no freedom to just play and make mistakes. I hear stories all the time about how Crawford played the Sedins constantly even when they weren't playing well. Because it's better to play, make mistakes, and learn from those mistakes. I get the team is in make the playoffs mode but I think we are doing Jake a disservice by giving him an incredibly short leash. He has all the tools to be a playoff beast but no freedom/trust from the coach to make mistakes and learn from them so he plays super passive to avoid mistakes. "All Jake does is throw the puck on net from a bad angle", yeah cause if he tries to puck handle it's in the back of his mind the coach will bench him for a turnover or a bad play. Crippling any chance for him to make creative plays before he even gets a chance. I dunno, at this point I am a broken record. Clearly they are seeing things I am not. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 29 minutes ago, N7Nucks said: Another punish Jake game. 8 minutes of ice time, did nothing that I seen that warranted him sitting pretty much the entire 3rd period. People wonder why he plays timid. Coach gives him no freedom to just play and make mistakes. I hear stories all the time about how Crawford played the Sedins constantly even when they weren't playing well. Because it's better to play, make mistakes, and learn from those mistakes. I get the team is in make the playoffs mode but I think we are doing Jake a disservice by giving him an incredibly short leash. He has all the tools to be a playoff beast but no freedom/trust from the coach to make mistakes and learn from them so he plays super passive to avoid mistakes. "All Jake does is throw the puck on net from a bad angle", yeah cause if he tries to puck handle it's in the back of his mind the coach will bench him for a turnover or a bad play. Crippling any chance for him to make creative plays before he even gets a chance. I dunno, at this point I am a broken record. Clearly they are seeing things I am not. Love me some Jake, and he’s cleRly an NHL player. Would we risk trading Jake, who at least can play, for the potential ceiling of Poolparty - even with his bustaroo possibilities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 27 minutes ago, Alflives said: Love me some Jake, and he’s cleRly an NHL player. Would we risk trading Jake, who at least can play, for the potential ceiling of Poolparty - even with his bustaroo possibilities? I wouldn't just cause they are a divisional rival. Also cause Jake can at least play bottom 6. It's tough though. Pool party has a lot of potential, great skater and is 6'4. It could be worth the gamble. Not sure either team wants to trade big fast players with some scoring touch to each other though. Easy for it to blow up in either face for a long time to come. Also think I'd rather target a D prospect somewhere instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 On 10/30/2019 at 12:26 PM, Dekey Pete said: The way I see it, Jake has showed maturity this year already. He started training camp in Travis' dog house, which didn't look great I'll admit, but he actually handled it very well with both the media and on ice. He's finally growing up, unfortunately it just took longer than most of us would have liked it to. two point night for Jake against the Sharks. Good on him! I think he's going to have a great year ahead. Super happy for him, and I hope he keeps playing well with Horvat. He's on pace for 41 points this year, and I hope he keeps it up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoasting Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 16 minutes ago, N4ZZY said: two point night for Jake against the Sharks. Good on him! I think he's going to have a great year ahead. Super happy for him, and I hope he keeps playing well with Horvat. He's on pace for 41 points this year, and I hope he keeps it up I was out tonight and missed the game, was he playing with Horvat? Highlights of his goal he was on Sutter's line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, Westcoasting said: I was out tonight and missed the game, was he playing with Horvat? Highlights of his goal he was on Sutter's line. I didn't get to watch the game either. Was just following the boxscore. But....two points! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthycanuck Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 22 minutes ago, Westcoasting said: I was out tonight and missed the game, was he playing with Horvat? Highlights of his goal he was on Sutter's line. Nope Gaudz was with Horvat and Pearson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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