RowdyCanuck Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 34 minutes ago, goog16 said: I think also like Edler who used to hit like a truck,Jake is always thinking in the back of his head if he lays a big hit the NHL Player Safety Farce Patrol will give him another suspension. True but elder did a lot more hitting on a team that could back him up and everyone had everyone's back.... I think the team needs to invest in a reeves or another heavyweight to get the most out of all our players....maybe with a reeves in the line up elder might play bigger like everyone else. I hope the Canucks find someone before hogz and VP or even Lind are ready cause they all play a pest in your face game and with a guy like reeves here they could play bigger and not go throw what Jake did. I was one of fans that kinda hoped that ferland could be that but his never been the number one tough guy on a team..even if you look at when he played for the flames. Team toughness needs to be addressed 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, RowdyCanuck said: True but elder did a lot more hitting on a team that could back him up and everyone had everyone's back.... I think the team needs to invest in a reeves or another heavyweight to get the most out of all our players....maybe with a reeves in the line up elder might play bigger like everyone else. I hope the Canucks find someone before hogz and VP or even Lind are ready cause they all play a pest in your face game and with a guy like reeves here they could play bigger and not go throw what Jake did. I was one of fans that kinda hoped that ferland could be that but his never been the number one tough guy on a team..even if you look at when he played for the flames. Team toughness needs to be addressed I think we are miles ahead of where we were the last few years with team toughness, but I would still love a guy like Reeves. Problem is there are only a handful of them in the league that can play hockey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyCanuck Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 5 hours ago, Alflives said: I wonder if Jake realizes he needs to work as hard (if not harder) off the ice, than he does on the ice to be at his best? I keep hoping with Jake it’s just his commitment to off ice habits that is holding him back. Commitment?.... I don't see that problem.... I see a player that hasn't realized that he could play almost the same way he did in Jr. Mental side of the game I think Jake lacks...knowing he could crush anyone but jake also needs a reeves or another heavyweight to back him up , I think Jake threw his biggest hits back when DD was playing with us. So.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, RowdyCanuck said: Commitment?.... I don't see that problem.... I see a player that hasn't realized that he could play almost the same way he did in Jr. Mental side of the game I think Jake lacks...knowing he could crush anyone but jake also needs a reeves or another heavyweight to back him up , I think Jake threw his biggest hits back when DD was playing with us. So.... Are you saying Jake is a follower, rather than the point guy? I can see that. Maybe Jake and Furley on the same line could be nice? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyCanuck Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, Kanukfanatic said: I think we are miles ahead of where we were the last few years with team toughness, but I would still love a guy like Reeves. Problem is there are only a handful of them in the league that can play hockey. True but if we want to get the most out of our young players like Lind and hogz and VP we need one and be nice to be able to protect petey. Hell I would trade Brock for Josh Anderson or mantha.... I think the team needs to do it to get rid of the last bits of the turn the cheek culture good bye. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyCanuck Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Alflives said: Are you saying Jake is a follower, rather than the point guy? I can see that. Maybe Jake and Furley on the same line could be nice? Yes bang on the money. His a follower not a leader. I liked watching ferland bo and Jake. I thought that was a good shut down line with scoring upside. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpn1 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Hey Shotgun everyone. Good on ya Jake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gameburn Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 (edited) On 11/25/2019 at 6:50 PM, RowdyCanuck said: But has Jake been put in a position to do that?7x7? Also for jake to have the freedom to do that , he would have to get a longer leash from Green. I think if jake got treated likr Pearson or Levio , we could see what Jake could do. Jake has been underused, to say the least. The guy needs minutes, opportunity. I hate to say it, but he needs a new coach or maybe a new organization. With Green he is the "power forward who plays no pp, no pk, no critical minutes." Uggh. Every minute given to Leivo, Baertschi, Pearson, Eriksson (!!), is a minute that Virtanen is not getting. He needs minutes to augment his ferocity and intensity. He doesn't need AHL-style training on the defensive side of the game. He doesn't need "coaching". He needs real minutes. Unleash the guy. With his skill set he has to play serious minutes. Edited November 28, 2019 by gameburn 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gameburn Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 On 11/25/2019 at 6:53 PM, Canucks Curse said: sick of this guy's indifferent play and waive ericksson- it makes me sick that he is on the roster beartschi has not made much of what could be his last chance in the league Roussel, Sutter and Beagle cannot come back fast enough, this team lacks grit and ballz If Ferland could come back and make a physical or emotional impact, that could be huge Ferland… man, if he didn't exist, we would invent him lol. Power plays are not enough, you have to stand in there, play tough 5 on 5. Wow, do we miss him. And Roussel I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 21 minutes ago, gameburn said: Ferland… man, if he didn't exist, we would invent him lol. Power plays are not enough, you have to stand in there, play tough 5 on 5. Wow, do we miss him. And Roussel I guess. we miss Rousell and a healthy beagle and Sutter. Beagle, Sutter, Roussel and a healthy Ferland would boost almost any team's bottom 6, these guys can be the definition of hard to play against. we were tough to play against with them in the lineup, now we are marshmallowy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nancouver Posted November 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2019 Just miffed at how much green is underutilizing virtanen. That was maybe the best period of his career in the second and he basically gets benched in the third. There was a lot of special teams situations in the third so I get him not being out there for that but what about when it’s 4 on 4?! Give the kid some more ice time for Christ sake green! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Law of Goalies Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Nancouver said: Just miffed at how much green is underutilizing virtanen. That was maybe the best period of his career in the second and he basically gets benched in the third. There was a lot of special teams situations in the third so I get him not being out there for that but what about when it’s 4 on 4?! Give the kid some more ice time for Christ sake green! To be fair, I think he got 10 seconds for the 4 on 4 before he had to quickly change to allow the PKers to come back on. And his stat line was decent today as he got 2 points and 6 hits. I think it was playing with Petey and Brock, he was really flying today. Edit: And before people complain that I didn't mention the -2, the four goals he was on the ice for, wasn't his fault as it was bad coverage by others or the D running into the goalie =/ Edited November 28, 2019 by Law of Goalies 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shad0w4life Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 7 hours ago, Law of Goalies said: To be fair, I think he got 10 seconds for the 4 on 4 before he had to quickly change to allow the PKers to come back on. And his stat line was decent today as he got 2 points and 6 hits. I think it was playing with Petey and Brock, he was really flying today. Edit: And before people complain that I didn't mention the -2, the four goals he was on the ice for, wasn't his fault as it was bad coverage by others or the D running into the goalie =/ Being on for 4 goals against...he was definitely accountable. He was a -3 vs Dallas where they lost 4-2 -2 Vs Colorado Lost 5-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Law of Goalies Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 39 minutes ago, shad0w4life said: Being on for 4 goals against...he was definitely accountable. He was a -3 vs Dallas where they lost 4-2 -2 Vs Colorado Lost 5-4 He is accountable for the minus for sure but you can't blame him for his coverage as it wasn't his man that scored. I mean there are many situations for other players where they just changed or was not even their fault..just happened to be on the ice when it happened. That's why the plus minus is not the best stat that people use. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB5 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 I enjoyed seeing Jake get fired up and go after McCann. If I would the coach I would plant Jake in front of old clips of Ruutu and Cooke and tell him to play like them. This will get him fired up enough to increase his output. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 1 minute ago, GarthButcher5 said: I enjoyed seeing Jake get fired up and go after McCann. If I would the coach I would plant Jake in front of old clips of Ruutu and Cooke and tell him to play like them. This will get him fired up enough to increase his output. Do you ever get the feeling that Willie D and now Green rein in Jake’s natural aggression? I wonder if Jake was allowed to play freely and naturally if he’d be a more physical force? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpn1 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 I really liked Jake's game last night got a goal and an assist. If he had a fight he would have had a "Howe Hat Trick." He was skating miles last night. I tried to keep track of how hard he was skating, give away's, battles along the boards and his passing. He made a nice drop pass to Pete for a goal and Mac made a nice little flip pass behind the defense man and Jake skated by the defender (Latang?). Even the goals score when he was on the ice had nothing to do with his defensive zone coverage. On another note the Comets won last night and if there is any way of watching this game I would strongly encourage it. Mikie was lights out in a 4-1 win over the Crunch. Gadg, Lind, Sautner and Rousell all played great. Exciting to see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Jake was real good against PIT, goal and an assist, and he even gave a good intermission interview for once. I also loved seeing him engaged with McCann, and cross-checking him in the face. In the words of Chris Farley, that was awesome. Once the Canucks get a new coach who trusts and believes in him, Jake will flourish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Alflives said: Do you ever get the feeling that Willie D and now Green rein in Jake’s natural aggression? I wonder if Jake was allowed to play freely and naturally if he’d be a more physical force? Seemed like Gudbranson's natural aggression was reigned in too, and his aggression was far more potent than anything else in his toolbox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballisticsports. Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 On 11/28/2019 at 2:18 PM, Alflives said: Do you ever get the feeling that Willie D and now Green rein in Jake’s natural aggression? I wonder if Jake was allowed to play freely and naturally if he’d be a more physical force? Do you really believe, they don't want him to be the best player that he can be to help their teams? Is there a conspiracy against the WJC, Utica, WD and Green to get less from him? Just because they don't tell us what they tell him, Coach's get canned for not bringing out the best in the players they are given Curious, would it be better for a coach to keep whats said in the room, or let it out there to scrutinize him? What if Coaches said, I never want you doing a fly by and behind the net, or not hitting a guy each time you have a chance Would people be booing when they see him doing it then? I think we need to quit making excuses for players I loved hearing Miller and EP after different games being agitated when asked if they were tired, Both denied it and said NO! that isn't an issue Good on them not even hinting at it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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