Alflives Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 8 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: Jake is proving every game why Benning chose him at #6. At 23 he is just coming into his own. At 25 he will be a true power forward who will get 25 + goals. And he will have a game built for playoff hockey. I’d rather have that then watch Nylander skate around the perimeter in the playoffs not wanting to get hit. This Leaf fan loves his Princess Willie. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glug Datt Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 1 hour ago, RowdyCanuck said: Could you imagine the tune when Willie jumps out of the way of a shot? Or when Ehlers goes Ghost in the playoffs? Man I thought Jake got it bad at times lol i can honestly say if one of those two were Canucks it would mean trouble cause it would mean another decade of Sedin soft hockey..... you're prolly right, but in fairness that doesn't leave room for either of those players to grow or adapt their game. not to mention jake hasn't even seen the playoffs so it's all theory at this point.. just sayin.. but here's hoping we have a Virtuzzi situation forming.. giv'r hell jake.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyCanuck Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 47 minutes ago, Glug Datt said: you're prolly right, but in fairness that doesn't leave room for either of those players to grow or adapt their game. not to mention jake hasn't even seen the playoffs so it's all theory at this point.. just sayin.. but here's hoping we have a Virtuzzi situation forming.. giv'r hell jake.. Your right about Jake hasn't done anything in the playoffs but iirc Ehlers and Willis haven't put the bar that high.... it took an old school coach in babs to get Willie where he is and his finally playing hard( for him) hockey and Willie plays with way better centres then Jake does. Wasnt the jets shopping Ehlers this pasted summer and didn't like the offers?.... both Ehlers and Willie would have brought the same culture or play as the Sedins so I'm happy Jim took Jake , was happy that day cause after Jim mentions how this pick would change the culture in Van , it has if you ask me. But I agree I just want Jake to do well but I'll never understand Willie vs ehlers vs Jake when bennet and del colle haven't done jack. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 5 hours ago, Clock Tower Prison said: It's pretty gross they way people throw epithets towards Nylander and Ehlers to try and pump up Virtanen. 5 hours ago, 73 Percent said: Not to discount jake. Love the guy. He looks great but cdc would be singing a different tune if jake was a leaf and willie was a canuck. I hate Willy Nylander's face precisely because he is a Maple Leaf. What's wrong with that? Look at my user name for gods sake.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Just now, Kanukfanatic said: I hate Willy Nylander's face precisely because he is a Maple Leaf. What's wrong with that? Look at my user name for gods sake.... Difference between a fan and a homer. Likening a canuck is one thing. Claiming one is better than Gretzky is another. Not that nylander is the great one. Just trying to put things in context here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, 73 Percent said: Difference between a fan and a homer. Likening a canuck is one thing. Claiming one is better than Gretzky is another. Not that nylander is the great one. Just trying to put things in context here. I try to not go overboard with the whole homer thing. I rarely say our players are better than god. However, I do have a very strong dislike for some other team's players like any leaf pretty much. I always hated nylander's face though. He is weird looking and it is easy fodder as Canuck fan.... I hope we destroy Calgary lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustABandwagoner Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 2 hours ago, RowdyCanuck said: But I agree I just want Jake to do well but I'll never understand Willie vs ehlers vs Jake when bennet and del colle haven't done jack. What even happened to 18 year old Sam Bennett. I rmb he had a pretty good playoff series against us too. Dal Colle = LOOOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyCanuck Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 1 hour ago, 73 Percent said: Difference between a fan and a homer. Likening a canuck is one thing. Claiming one is better than Gretzky is another. Not that nylander is the great one. Just trying to put things in context here. So I'm a homer cause I think Jake is better then Willie and Ehlers? well in my books he is , I value size and players that know how to use more then soft top six wingers. Jake has gotten better every year his been in the nhl , where not many other players can say that , Jake has done it in mostly a third line role , where the other two play with better line mates. If I'm building a team to win a cup I take Jake over those two anyday but I also wanted MT over OJ so I'm biased but my facts support my claim, so am I a homer? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, RowdyCanuck said: So I'm a homer cause I think Jake is better then Willie and Ehlers? well in my books he is , I value size and players that know how to use more then soft top six wingers. Jake has gotten better every year his been in the nhl , where not many other players can say that , Jake has done it in mostly a third line role , where the other two play with better line mates. If I'm building a team to win a cup I take Jake over those two anyday but I also wanted MT over OJ so I'm biased but my facts support my claim, so am I a homer? Yup. I'm sorry but the only people who think that virtanen has shown more value than ehlers or nylander is drinking the cdc koolaid. Edited December 29, 2019 by 73 Percent 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyCanuck Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 39 minutes ago, 73 Percent said: Yup. I'm sorry but the only people who think that virtanen has shown more value than ehlers or nylander is drinking the cdc koolaid. So if you were building a team you would take one of them over Jake? i think it depends on what your team needs or style you want to play. I value what Jake brings more then the other two. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 10 minutes ago, RowdyCanuck said: So if you were building a team you would take one of them over Jake? i think it depends on what your team needs or style you want to play. I value what Jake brings more then the other two. I think a big part of it is how much more these players will grow. If Jake is perceived to continue growing and become a steady 50-60 point power forward, there's a case that he might be the more valuable player, but taken at their current value with no value placed on any potential future growth, I don't think there's enough extra there from Jake to make up for the big difference in offense between him and Ehlers/Nylander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItTakesAnArmy Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 Finally letting the kid play without a leash. Just shows what more ice time can do, he was always good defensively in his own zone. And now he has better players to play with him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNucks1 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 6 hours ago, DontMessMe said: What even happened to 18 year old Sam Bennett. I rmb he had a pretty good playoff series against us too. Dal Colle = LOOOL i didnt really pay attention to that years draft much, was Dal Colle suppose to go that high? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpn1 Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Hey #Shotgun Jake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 (edited) On 12/28/2019 at 8:27 PM, Warhippy said: But...Ehlerzzzz Nylanderzzzzz Jake's a frigging BEAUTY!!!!! Dude. Jake's an absolute gem eh. Edited December 31, 2019 by Warhippy 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Dude. Jake's an absolute gem eh. yeaa so is gaudette 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 jake bo petey brock miller podzolkin hoglander hughes juolevi tryamkin marky demko will be a good corp to win multiple cups with 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Dizzle Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 7 hours ago, DontMessMe said: What even happened to 18 year old Sam Bennett. I rmb he had a pretty good playoff series against us too. Dal Colle = LOOOL MDC is what kills me every time someone complains about not drafting Nylander or Ehlers. Every single person paying attention to that draft would have taken MDC over any of those players and he - unfortunately imho - was a complete failure of a draft pick taken before JV. On the topic of Virtanen... I'm curious if @The 5th Line and @guntrix are starting to come around on the Jake train????? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbermen Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 Still think Ehlers and pink toque wearing Nylander are better? Glad you're not the GM. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyCanuck Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 7 hours ago, -AJ- said: I think a big part of it is how much more these players will grow. If Jake is perceived to continue growing and become a steady 50-60 point power forward, there's a case that he might be the more valuable player, but taken at their current value with no value placed on any potential future growth, I don't think there's enough extra there from Jake to make up for the big difference in offense between him and Ehlers/Nylander. See that's where we wil have to agree to disagree. Take Dustin brown would you take Willie or ehlers over him? Like I said it depends on how you want to build your team and I would take Jake every time. I also think you under value jakes hitting and the fact that , players like Jake are the rare finds not top six soft wingers.... you also under value jakes two way game cause his better then both of them..... but I'm just a homer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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