Alflives Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 29 minutes ago, The 5th Line said: It's been strange seeing a light being switched like this. He's making plays he never even showed in his junior days He was fat and lazy and didn't produce for 5 years just like I said he would. He's in a contract year and is gonna score 20 so I hope y'all are ready to pony up Now if I do a thread search I'm not going to find any contradicting comments regarding Virtanen from you or anybody else calling me out am i? Clearly Jake is maturing physically and mentally. He’s still a baby face, and has more maturing to go, but we are now seeing a very effective player. What I really like seeing is that Jake contributes to winning when he’s not putting up points. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 30 minutes ago, Alflives said: Clearly Jake is maturing physically and mentally. He’s still a baby face, and has more maturing to go, but we are now seeing a very effective player. What I really like seeing is that Jake contributes to winning when he’s not putting up points. IMHO Jake has a physical presence on the ice that is intimidating to opposing players. I am not talking a physical hit like Edler made deep in the SJ zone last night. Jake can do that but his physical presence manifests more in his puck possession. He is big enough and fast enough that defenders have to respect his threat. This is giving him more possession time and thusly better ops to throw passes or take shots. His wrister is absolutely intimidating. While BB can battle he does not control the game the same way JV does. How many fans would think that Virtanen could be a PP2 QB from the blue line. Thru the season Green has slowly amped up Jake's role. Green has seen things in Virtanen's game that are now being realized. As I have said before Jake should have a Green bobble doll that he nods to every day. Both Green and Benning showed the patience it takes t build winners. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyCanuck Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 4 hours ago, The 5th Line said: It's been strange seeing a light being switched like this. He's making plays he never even showed in his junior days He was fat and lazy and didn't produce for 5 years just like I said he would. He's in a contract year and is gonna score 20 so I hope y'all are ready to pony up Now if I do a thread search I'm not going to find any contradicting comments regarding Virtanen from you or anybody else calling me out am i? How can you call Jake lazy and fat? Start of jakes career they guessed at what weight he should play at and that Hurt him so he improved and I don't think Jake was off by much for greens standards this pasted training camp but tough love works for Jake and it made him more hungry. Also Jake has improved each year and I think your looking for the word consistent and for some players that comes with time. Calling jake fat and lazy come on man and people get pissy when I point out brocks skating.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post -DLC- Posted January 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2020 5 hours ago, The 5th Line said: It's been strange seeing a light being switched like this. He's making plays he never even showed in his junior days He was fat and lazy and didn't produce for 5 years just like I said he would. He's in a contract year and is gonna score 20 so I hope y'all are ready to pony up Now if I do a thread search I'm not going to find any contradicting comments regarding Virtanen from you or anybody else calling me out am i? The insinuation you're making here is crap....and mostly to feed an agenda you seem to have that "you've known all along" about Jake. That he's somehow "trying/playing" because of an upcoming contract? Maybe it's just that it's not an easy gig...to be in the NHL...and it's taken time for him to learn how to best utilize his skillset. Wish all fat/lazy guys had speed like his. 2 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 4 hours ago, The 5th Line said: It's been strange seeing a light being switched like this. He's making plays he never even showed in his junior days He was fat and lazy and didn't produce for 5 years just like I said he would. I recall being a fat and lazy sod in my late teens and early 20s. When I finally secured a job that inspired me, I quickly became the hardest and most dedicated worker on staff. I received several promotions and great benefits throughout my tenure. I would argue that the addition of top calibre draft pics, as well as some inspiring (and relentless) talent like Miller, Pearson and Roussel has awakened Jake. Becoming a respected and worthy teammate can have a huge effect on his confidence and subsequent game. I have stated my thoughts on Jake's unimpressive game in the past, so I don't need to repeat myself, as I have responded to your posts regarding this matter on at least 2 occasions. I will just say, that imo, Jake's maturity level appears to be finally catching up to his age. 4 hours ago, The 5th Line said: He's in a contract year and is gonna score 20 so I hope y'all are ready to pony up The team management have always kept a close leash on Jake and will continue to do so. He will likely get a short term, 'show me' contract, which will create a more consistent level of play. 4 hours ago, The 5th Line said: Now if I do a thread search I'm not going to find any contradicting comments regarding Virtanen from you or anybody else calling me out am i? Your arrogant (that post before this one was exquisite) and challenging approach will certainly put a lot of people off, but there are many that are not intimidated (or not yet weary) of you. Carry on, big man! 4 hours ago, The 5th Line said: 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 I always have problems with posters that expect a player to step in and because they were a first round pick, they should dominate from the get go...……...that is a stupid position to take...….they are all individuals, and all mature at different times. Look at the Sedins, it was about 3 /4 years, Naslund was traded to us before he took off, you can go around the league and see this time and time again. With Jake, you could always see talent, but not focus or commitment......in short immature. Fast forward and time has a way of hardening a person, increasing focus, and strengthening their understanding of what it takes to be a pro. In short, it just takes time. Elite skill is something different and we don't have to talk about...….. But in any course, Jake is starting to get it more and more, each game, and if he never got any stronger, I would be happy. Although, IMO, he won't be at his best until he is 25 or 26, which is when I am looking forward to really seeing him play. One last thing....IMO, Jake has slowly improve year after year, and I see no reason at his age, that he won't continue to improve more...………. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post -DLC- Posted January 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2020 I'm still really bothered by the "fat, lazy, only performing in a contract year" nonsense. (I think the people who do this should be obligated to post a pic of their lean self). Most people DO perform their best when they're under review for a possible promotion - it's incentive. Name me a player that doesn't try to show their stuff? So to pin this on Jake like it's somehow a character flaw? Weak. He had to learn how to play the game best suited to his skillset and the team around him. Rather than just skate in circles and wait for plays to develop, he's now part of making them develop and is honing his craft. The fact that he IS turning it on shows that he CAN. I don't care WHAT the reason is...you don't think he'll like the taste of success and be motivated to continue? So it sort of proves our point more than any naysayer that he is on his game (even if only to get his fat lazy self a contract payout?!?). I love it when we call athletes who've made it to the big leagues "fat and lazy" as we scorn them from our easy chairs. Just to make it is something...I'm so sick of the name calling of Jake. These kids (that's what they are when they are drafted) deserve more respect. Whether they make it or not, it's an accomplishment in itself. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, debluvscanucks said: I'm still really bothered by the "fat, lazy, only performing in a contract year" nonsense. (I think the people who do this should be obligated to post a pic of their lean self). Most people DO perform their best when they're under review for a possible promotion - it's incentive. Name me a player that doesn't try to show their stuff? So to pin this on Jake like it's somehow a character flaw? Weak. He had to learn how to play the game best suited to his skillset and the team around him. Rather than just skate in circles and wait for plays to develop, he's now part of making them develop and is honing his craft. The fact that he IS turning it on shows that he CAN. I don't care WHAT the reason is...you don't think he'll like the taste of success and be motivated to continue? So it sort of proves our point more than any naysayer that he is on his game (even if only to get his fat lazy self a contract payout?!?). I love it when we call athletes who've made it to the big leagues "fat and lazy" as we scorn them from our easy chairs. Just to make it is something...I'm so sick of the name calling of Jake. These kids (that's what they are when they are drafted) deserve more respect. Whether they make it or not, it's an accomplishment in itself. Jake is actually on a classic development path, if this was 10 years ago no one is thinking he's behind schedule. Some guys need until 22/23 to put it all together. McDavid has really made people have silly expectations of every prospect, like somehow if they aren't superstars at 19 they're a "bust". 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 8 minutes ago, debluvscanucks said: I'm still really bothered by the "fat, lazy, only performing in a contract year" nonsense. (I think the people who do this should be obligated to post a pic of their lean self). Most people DO perform their best when they're under review for a possible promotion - it's incentive. Name me a player that doesn't try to show their stuff? So to pin this on Jake like it's somehow a character flaw? Weak. He had to learn how to play the game best suited to his skillset and the team around him. Rather than just skate in circles and wait for plays to develop, he's now part of making them develop and is honing his craft. The fact that he IS turning it on shows that he CAN. I don't care WHAT the reason is...you don't think he'll like the taste of success and be motivated to continue? So it sort of proves our point more than any naysayer that he is on his game (even if only to get his fat lazy self a contract payout?!?). I love it when we call athletes who've made it to the big leagues "fat and lazy" as we scorn them from our easy chairs. Just to make it is something...I'm so sick of the name calling of Jake. These kids (that's what they are when they are drafted) deserve more respect. Whether they make it or not, it's an accomplishment in itself. Contracts should be five years max and GM, AND players should be weary signing them. Incentive is everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 (edited) I really like Virtanen’s game these days. You see it on his face. He’s more serious. He is maturing in his game and most likely in his life too. And we know that’s the case as Green sees him more and more as an asset than a liability. Well done yet again Canucks, this time on player development. Love my team. Edited January 20, 2020 by Me_ 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballisticsports. Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 17 minutes ago, Me_ said: I really like Virtanen’s game these days. You see it on his face. He’s more serious. He is maturing in his game and nightly likely in his life too. And we know that’s the case as Green sees him more and more as an asset than a liability. Well done yet again Canucks, this time on player development. Love my team. I think Jake sees younger teammates coming in and making a impact right away, and them all being young, they are playful competitive with each other and pushing each other to produce, win and have fun is good motivation (as well as a new contract is) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kootenay Gold Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Me_ said: I'm still really bothered by the "fat, lazy, only performing in a contract year" nonsense. (I think the people who do this should be obligated to post a pic of their lean self). Deb.. You know better that to post that lol...... They would be unable to fit their beer belly in the picture 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 As everyone has noticed, Jake has matured and is starting to play the game like he can. More than anything, I love seeing his newfound dedication and contrary to what I thought was possible, he actually seems to be thinking the game quicker and better than in the past - which is what I believe to be the main reason for his improvement. But what I really posted to say is that I am so glad the Canucks remained patient with him. I'm sure that was really hard and frustrating to do, but they saw enough potential in Jakes skills to see it through. In a way, it is almost better for us he took so long to develop. This delays having to pay him the big bucks in his upcoming contract. If we can snag him for 2-3 years at a low cap hit then he may end up one of the best value contracts we have during our rise to contenders. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, The 5th Line said: It's been strange seeing a light being switched like this. He's making plays he never even showed in his junior days He was fat and lazy and didn't produce for 5 years just like I said he would. He's in a contract year and is gonna score 20 so I hope y'all are ready to pony up Now if I do a thread search I'm not going to find any contradicting comments regarding Virtanen from you or anybody else calling me out am i? Lol....what a stupid post. I blocked you long ago and the only reason I saw this stupid post is others quoted it. Certainly reinforced my reasons for blocking your ridiculous content. Edit: the irony is some basement dweller like you calling a professional athlete who makes millions of dollars "fat and lazy". Hahah...ok pal. Edited January 19, 2020 by Kanukfanatic 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoasting Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 21 minutes ago, kloubek said: As everyone has noticed, Jake has matured and is starting to play the game like he can. More than anything, I love seeing his newfound dedication and contrary to what I thought was possible, he actually seems to be thinking the game quicker and better than in the past - which is what I believe to be the main reason for his improvement. But what I really posted to say is that I am so glad the Canucks remained patient with him. I'm sure that was really hard and frustrating to do, but they saw enough potential in Jakes skills to see it through. In a way, it is almost better for us he took so long to develop. This delays having to pay him the big bucks in his upcoming contract. If we can snag him for 2-3 years at a low cap hit then he may end up one of the best value contracts we have during our rise to contenders. Its really rewarding to see how perseverance and hard work pays off, not everyone can make the jump and make it in the NHL. I thought for the last couple years he might be trade bait for a high end player as Virts cap hit is cheap and his potential has always been there. Now i think it's way past that point as he is showing his value to the team and judging from fans reactions to the games I've been at he's now a fan favourite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 Thinking of making pasta tonight, might use some of Jake's sauce he used in that pass to Miller last night on top 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 9 minutes ago, Westcoasting said: I thought for the last couple years he might be trade bait for a high end player as Virts cap hit is cheap and his potential has always been there. Now i think it's way past that point as he is showing his value to the team and judging from fans reactions to the games I've been at he's now a fan favourite. Me too. There will always be the critics who maintain his talent level will never match the draft position. (They may still well be right). But given that it isn't uncommon to have high draft picks not work out, I always knew Jake would end up a strong part of this team given his size and speed. With that said, I expected a 3rd liner and it looks like we might be getting much more. Not bad for a draft "bust". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 29 minutes ago, The 5th Line said: So you unblock me just to throw a few chirps? That's super cool and tough of you He was literally fat and his play was lazy because of it....WAS fat and lazy. I don’t know if Jake was lazy, but he was definitely fat. He’s come a long way. Good for him to have figured it out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Jake has come into prior camps out of shape, lets not pretend like Green didn't low key give him $&!# for it. I mentioned maturity being a big part of why he has taken the next step. It is good to see. I feel he can be more effective than he is and has just scratched the surface. Love to see more physicality. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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