Law of Goalies Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 On 2/22/2020 at 9:29 AM, ba;;isticsports said: Alf, I think chastised him is a lil harsh of a a word for what was said Green was asked about Jake, and responded honestly He stated he didn't show up in the condition that they were both having for him I am ok with that NHL players get paid big money to be professionals Jake was not taking his serious enough to not be in the best shape he could be I agree with what you said that he wasn't chasitsed as he didn't even say he was out of shape. All he said was he and Virt had goals and that Virt didn't meet some. So I don't know how everyone is jumping on Jake and said he was like SUPER OUT OF SHAPE. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 IMHO Jake has as much to gain as most on this roster come playoffs. Consistency with a heavy edge will make this kid a top 6 player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iBlueGreen Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Jake has more goals than supposedly our top sniper "Boeser", and so do 4 other forwards have more goals than Boeser. I wonder if Boeser was more injured than he showed, and hid it from the team. Then when his production and confidence really dropped they called him on it. I'm glad we only signed him for a 2 year deal, this will look more appealing to other teams looking to trade for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Law of Goalies Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 3 hours ago, iBlueGreen said: Jake has more goals than supposedly our top sniper "Boeser", and so do 4 other forwards have more goals than Boeser. I wonder if Boeser was more injured than he showed, and hid it from the team. Then when his production and confidence really dropped they called him on it. I'm glad we only signed him for a 2 year deal, this will look more appealing to other teams looking to trade for him. Not to be an ass, but I think it is a three year deal (BB6) with a 7.5 mil in the final year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Law of Goalies said: Not to be an ass, but I think it is a three year deal (BB6) with a 7.5 mil in the final year. Yup. Bess’s Qualifying offer fir his next contract is at least 9 million. Not really a very smart deal by JB. Our window for winning is going to close before it opens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballisticsports. Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Alflives said: Yup. Bess’s Qualifying offer fir his next contract is at least 9 million. Not really a very smart deal by JB. Our window for winning is going to close before it opens. Maybe we trade him for a young defencemen (same stage as our prospects are at now), and some of our forward prospects are ready to replace him 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 9 minutes ago, ba;;isticsports said: Maybe we trade him for a young defencemen (same stage as our prospects are at now), and some of our forward prospects are ready to replace him Could JB believe Hoglander is ready to play top six minutes next season? Could it be Kole Lind he has in mind? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bree2 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 4 hours ago, iBlueGreen said: Jake has more goals than supposedly our top sniper "Boeser", and so do 4 other forwards have more goals than Boeser. I wonder if Boeser was more injured than he showed, and hid it from the team. Then when his production and confidence really dropped they called him on it. I'm glad we only signed him for a 2 year deal, this will look more appealing to other teams looking to trade for him. you realize Bess has been injured for a bit now, of course players are going to pass him , we signed him to a 3 year deal, nobody is going to be stale while he is injured. Benning wanted another top six forward and hopefully we got one in Toffoli, . it will be awesome when Bess comes back for the playoffs. the top six will be set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bree2 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 53 minutes ago, Alflives said: Yup. Bess’s Qualifying offer fir his next contract is at least 9 million. Not really a very smart deal by JB. Our window for winning is going to close before it opens. cap friendly says 5.75 for the 3rd year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iBlueGreen Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Law of Goalies said: Not to be an ass, but I think it is a three year deal (BB6) with a 7.5 mil in the final year. The last year is RFA year, they don't have to qualify. Just saying ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Alflives said: Yup. Bess’s Qualifying offer fir his next contract is at least 9 million. Not really a very smart deal by JB. Our window for winning is going to close before it opens. Sometimes your posts make no sense. And this is one of them... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 I have been right on a lot of moves by reading the tea leaves (like Hodgson, Kesler, Bonino/Sutter trade, etc)... and I am starting to feel pretty sure that Jake is going to get traded in the offseason. Benning has talked a few times about having to make choices on our players this summer due to cap reasons and how he is hoping to recoup a 1st or other picks. The odd man out to me is Virtanen. He is worth a decent return, isn’t good enough to be in our top 6, and won’t be a good value on the 3rd or 4th line. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Provost said: I have been right on a lot of moves by reading the tea leaves (like Hodgson, Kesler, Bonino/Sutter trade, etc)... and I am starting to feel pretty sure that Jake is going to get traded in the offseason. Benning has talked a few times about having to make choices on our players this summer due to cap reasons and how he is hoping to recoup a 1st or other picks. The odd man out to me is Virtanen. He is worth a decent return, isn’t good enough to be in our top 6, and won’t be a good value on the 3rd or 4th line. I think if we re-sign Toffoli, one of Boeser/Virtanen are eventually gone for a D personally. Edited February 26, 2020 by aGENT 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yung1 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Still just 23 years old. Jake's gonna score 30 for us one day. Big forward with speed for days and a heavy, quick wrist shot that can pot 30 goals is fantastic value at 6th overall. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 2 hours ago, aGENT said: I think if we re-sign Toffoli, one of Boeser/Virtanen are eventually gone for a D personally. Yep, exactly... I am just betting on it being Virtanen. He will be at peak value after this season. Both bring back a very big haul as well as shedding cap... that one move can relieve a lot of pressure and we have the depth to still manage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Virtanen shotguns his way into 93rd in all-time canuck scoring. Passes Pyatt as an interesting comparable. 92. Lars Molin LW 172 33 65 98 93. Jake Virtanen RW 272 50 44 94 94. Christian Ehrhoff D 159 28 66 94 95. Taylor Pyatt LW 224 49 44 93 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borvat Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 (edited) On 2/23/2020 at 7:00 PM, bree2 said: cap friendly says 5.75 for the 3rd year Boeser gets paid $7.5 Million in salary in the final year. Will have to qualify based on that. Not a great structure for the Canucks. May make him un-signable unless he agrees to less. SEASON CLAUSE CAP HIT AAV P. BONUSES S. BONUSES BASE SALARY TOTAL SALARY MINORS SALARY 2019-20 $5,875,000 $5,875,000 $0 $3,300,000 $700,000 $4,000,000 $4,000,000 2020-21 $5,875,000 $5,875,000 $0 $3,000,000 $3,125,000 $6,125,000 $6,125,000 2021-22 $5,875,000 $5,875,000 $0 $0 $7,500,000 $7,500,000 $7,500,000 TOTAL $17,625,000 $17,625,000 $0 $6,300,000 $11,325,000 $17,625,000 $17,625,000 Edited February 26, 2020 by Borvat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 48 minutes ago, Borvat said: He gets paid $7.5 Million in salary in the final year. Will have to qualify based on that. Not a great structure for the Canucks. May make him un-signable unless he agrees to less. SEASON CLAUSE CAP HIT AAV P. BONUSES S. BONUSES BASE SALARY TOTAL SALARY MINORS SALARY 2019-20 $5,875,000 $5,875,000 $0 $3,300,000 $700,000 $4,000,000 $4,000,000 2020-21 $5,875,000 $5,875,000 $0 $3,000,000 $3,125,000 $6,125,000 $6,125,000 2021-22 $5,875,000 $5,875,000 $0 $0 $7,500,000 $7,500,000 $7,500,000 TOTAL $17,625,000 $17,625,000 $0 $6,300,000 $11,325,000 $17,625,000 $17,625,000 Toffoli is a pending UFA (not RFA), so there's no qualification necessary. He simply becomes a free agent on July 1 if he's not re-signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcoasting Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Wilbur said: Virtanen shotguns his way into 93rd in all-time canuck scoring. Passes Pyatt as an interesting comparable. 92. Lars Molin LW 172 33 65 98 93. Jake Virtanen RW 272 50 44 94 94. Christian Ehrhoff D 159 28 66 94 95. Taylor Pyatt LW 224 49 44 93 Anyone remember what number Lars Molin was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 37 minutes ago, Westcoasting said: Anyone remember what number Lars Molin was? Hockey Reference says 26. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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