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10 minutes ago, kloubek said:

I just don't see us getting rid of Jake, and I'm sure management agrees. He is steadily progressing, can play up and down the lineup and gives us the size and speed we covet with this new(ish) team.

 

I am sure Benning will work out a fair contract which probably will indeed be a bridge show-me contract that I expect Jake to accept, given all the development years we have put in for him. After that it is anyones guess as to whether we can afford to keep him or not, but we can worry about that then. I seem to view Pod's game as a potential replacement anyway.

Only way Jake is traded is if he’s the sweetener add to dump Loui.  

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6 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Only way Jake is traded is if he’s the sweetener add to dump Loui.  

I don't see that happening. We need Jake - at least until we have a suitable replacement, and I just don't see a player that continues to get better and we spent so much time grooming as that sweetener.

 

If we add a sweetener from the current roster I see it being Demko. Of course, that is assuming we re-sign Marky.

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24 minutes ago, kloubek said:

I don't see that happening. We need Jake - at least until we have a suitable replacement, and I just don't see a player that continues to get better and we spent so much time grooming as that sweetener.

 

If we add a sweetener from the current roster I see it being Demko. Of course, that is assuming we re-sign Marky.

I don't see JB as a GM that would add any desirable player as a way to move a player.

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6 hours ago, stawns said:

I don't see JB as a GM that would add any desirable player as a way to move a player.

Ideally, no. But we really could shed salary, and perhaps he will end up viewing Demko as expendable just based on the expansion draft coming up. If he thinks he has an alternate plan, then I could absolutely see him using another B level prospect as a sweetener instead.

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16 hours ago, Junkyard Dog said:

Consistency is key with Jake and Gaud. They have games where they're great, on the forecheck and offensively but they also have games where they make mistakes with the puck and don't produce offense.

 

 

Consistency will be the key moving forward. But this is Jake's breakout year. He's on pace to finish the season at 45 points if all goes well. 

 

Gaudette is on pace to finish with 41 points. 

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On 2/27/2020 at 1:09 AM, -AJ- said:

Losing Tanev would hurt horribly and he'd be pretty hard to replace IMO, so I'd like to keep him if we can, but things will definitely be tight. Stecher is probably gone unless he takes a big discount. Sutter is still under contract for another year after this one, so unless we can find a trading partner, he won't be gone (though he could be plausibly bought out). I think Sutter's a terribly underrated player, but he's still being paid a lot and as such, probably has very little value on the trade market, so I don't think he'll be easy to offload.

 

On the topic of Virtanen, he's already almost a 50-point player. He's on pace for 46 points (24 goals, 22 assists) in 82 games.

A buyout for Sutter? 

 

Only if management is able to off-load Loui. Man, Benning and his team in cap management hell. 

 

 

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5 hours ago, N4ZZY said:

Consistency will be the key moving forward. But this is Jake's breakout year. He's on pace to finish the season at 45 points if all goes well. 

 

Gaudette is on pace to finish with 41 points. 

I don't know if they get that. They have gone on stretches without points. Streaky scorers. Hard to tell.

 

Also they need to develop another side to their game, like bringing a good physical presence every night with Virtanen or developing a defensive/checking role with Gaud.

 

Otherwise they're only secondary scorers.

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8 hours ago, Junkyard Dog said:

I don't know if they get that. They have gone on stretches without points. Streaky scorers. Hard to tell.

 

Also they need to develop another side to their game, like bringing a good physical presence every night with Virtanen or developing a defensive/checking role with Gaud.

 

Otherwise they're only secondary scorers.

I think they're seen as secondary scorers. 

 

For me at least, the primary scorers are Pettersson, Hughes, Miller, Horvat even. 

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33 minutes ago, DownUndaCanuck said:

Hate to/love to bring this up again but here comes another round of Virtanen vs Nylander

 How the years have separated the picks...

 

Don't get me wrong I'm a big Jake fan but imagine Nylander and his 40 goal pace on a line with Pettersson and Miller.

Can they both be good valuable nhlers?

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22 hours ago, N4ZZY said:

A buyout for Sutter? 

 

Only if management is able to off-load Loui. Man, Benning and his team in cap management hell. 

 

 

There's some work to be done, it's far from 'hell'.

 

CDC... Making mountains out of molehills...

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3 hours ago, DownUndaCanuck said:

Hate to/love to bring this up again but here comes another round of Virtanen vs Nylander

 How the years have separated the picks...

 

Don't get me wrong I'm a big Jake fan but imagine Nylander and his 40 goal pace on a line with Pettersson and Miller.

Leaf fans would rather have Pastrnak:bored:

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12 hours ago, aGENT said:

There's some work to be done, it's far from 'hell'.

 

CDC... Making mountains out of molehills...

The way I understand it, is that they're up against it. 

 

Have to resign players like Markström, Tanev, Virtanen, Gaudette, Toffoli. 

 

But they have dead weight contracts like Loui Ericksson's, and not as "dead weight", but heavier in Sutter, and Beagle (though, Beags has shown it's worth it with regards to his faceoff wins). I'm not sure who's going to want Loui's contract or how management is going to off-load that. 

 

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4 minutes ago, N4ZZY said:

The way I understand it, is that they're up against it. 

 

Have to resign players like Markström, Tanev, Virtanen, Gaudette, Toffoli. 

 

But they have dead weight contracts like Loui Ericksson's, and not as "dead weight", but heavier in Sutter, and Beagle (though, Beags has shown it's worth it with regards to his faceoff wins). I'm not sure who's going to want Loui's contract or how management is going to off-load that. 

 

There's ways. Do some reading.

 

Again it's work, it not 'hell'.

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10 hours ago, aGENT said:

 

 

Again it's work, it not 'hell'.

If I may weigh in

work without pain?

It does includes a lot of ifs, buyers and pain perhaps too?

 

If I had a 2007 PT Cruiser with $10000 owing on it,

No job and quadruplet babies on the way to support (Already named them Elias,Quinn,Jacob,Tyler) ;)

I may be able to get rid of it too, but at what cost ;) ?

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26 minutes ago, ba;;isticsports said:

If I may weigh in

work without pain?

It does includes a lot of ifs, buyers and pain perhaps too?

 

If I had a 2007 PT Cruiser with $10000 owing on it,

No job and quadruplet babies on the way to support (Already named them Elias,Quinn,Jacob,Tyler) ;)

I may be able to get rid of it too, but at what cost ;) ?

The Canucks situation is not that dire.

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