Gurn Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 8 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: an out of shape Jake again. Says who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 11 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: He almost scored a career high 20 goals in his 5th season - almost. He did hit a career high, in a shortened season; and has improved his totals every year he has played. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 73 Percent Posted July 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2020 Jake is subject to such a double standard it's almost sickening. Hes had not a great camp no doubt. But it's nothing more than that imo. I know we're all excited, and it's all we have right now, but these days need to be taken with a grain of salt. Is anyone expecting demko to start over markstrom? Is anyone expecting Eriksson and beagle to lead the team in scoring? Is anyone expecting petey to go scoreless? I hope not. So why are we benching jake after day 4 of training camp? Loads of players are off to a "slow" start. Let's relax. This kid would have been a 40 point player this year. May I remind you he's the same age as OJ who has yet to play an nhl game... 6 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post -AJ- Posted July 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Squamfan said: You do realize that Twitter poster is jabbing at overreactions like yours, right? 3 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 36 minutes ago, 73 Percent said: Jake is subject to such a double standard it's almost sickening. Hes had not a great camp no doubt. But it's nothing more than that imo. I know we're all excited, and it's all we have right now, but these days need to be taken with a grain of salt. Is anyone expecting demko to start over markstrom? Is anyone expecting Eriksson and beagle to lead the team in scoring? Is anyone expecting petey to go scoreless? I hope not. So why are we benching jake after day 4 of training camp? Loads of players are off to a "slow" start. Let's relax. This kid would have been a 40 point player this year. May I remind you he's the same age as OJ who has yet to play an nhl game... How is it a double standard? Are fans treating Ericksson and Benn better than Jake? What I find funny about this fanbase, is that they are as whitebread as the Sedins. We love our Sedins eating punches from ratboy, but we hate our Torres/Rome/Alberts, (until Alberts gets injured, then we love him again) That I don't understand. We like our goalies to be big, and our D-men to be small. We love our Lalondes and Manyukins, but not our Jakes and Cams I heard the audio from yesterday but only the video of the Tanev goal. Personally if Jake was POed because he got walked, I think that is a good thing, and if Horvat doesn't like it he should put his fist in Jake's mouth, not swear at him and tell him to relax. That is why I didn't like Schally McShaller, telling the other team to relax on the ice. If Jake is running around hitting guys cuz he got embarrassed, that is a good thing. Bo talking without action, not so much anybody got a video of the whole thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squamfan Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 23 minutes ago, -AJ- said: You do realize that Twitter poster is jabbing at overreactions like yours, right? this has been a issue for years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post -AJ- Posted July 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2020 2 minutes ago, Squamfan said: this has been a issue for years. Thanks for posting pictures from years ago to show how far Jake's come. 1 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squamfan Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, -AJ- said: Thanks for posting pictures from years ago to show how far Jake's come. ya he has come a far way. From typical high school to university frat guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNucks1 Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 so virt has a bad scrimmage and media talks about it are we gunna bring up marky lost 5-2 as well? lol 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yung1 Posted July 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2020 Ive been pro-virtanen for a long time. I'm starting to change my mind. Don't get me wrong, he's going to play in this league for many years yet to come, and he has 30 goal potential imo, but I don't think he has the ability to focus 100% on his craft while living in his hometown. Him constantly showing up to camp out of shape and a step behind and doing boneheaded things like go out to celebs without a mask are indicative of him being around his friends and living like they do, problem being, he's an NHL hockey player and can't afford that luxury. Stetchers made it work, but he's clearly built different. He made it to the league 100% off hard work and grind. On the other hand, Virt made basically off the genetic gift of being both quick and powerful and effort has always been a knock against him throughout his career. I don't think a guy like Jake Virtanen reaches his full potential in his hometown. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 I agree with yung1. I think being from the lower mainland, Jake is too comfy here. He still hangs with his long-time friends, and there's nothing wrong with that, unless it affects your play or your team. I wonder if he lived in Columbus, Ohio and played under Torts, would he be so carefree? It took Miller a while to mature as well, but it wasn't until he was traded for him to raise his game. Jake might be what he is here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckCup2022 Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 5 hours ago, Squamfan said: Eriksson? Someone slap green in the face!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 22 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: I agree with yung1. I think being from the lower mainland, Jake is too comfy here. He still hangs with his long-time friends, and there's nothing wrong with that, unless it affects your play or your team. I wonder if he lived in Columbus, Ohio and played under Torts, would he be so carefree? It took Miller a while to mature as well, but it wasn't until he was traded for him to raise his game. Jake might be what he is here. I have a hard time believing this stuff. Virtanen was well on his way to a 50 point season. Getting 2PP time. Jake is the type of player Van has to have to be a serious CUP contender. The fact that he is a local kid is a bonus. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MeanSeanBean Posted July 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, lmm said: How is it a double standard? Are fans treating Ericksson and Benn better than Jake? What I find funny about this fanbase, is that they are as whitebread as the Sedins. We love our Sedins eating punches from ratboy, but we hate our Torres/Rome/Alberts, (until Alberts gets injured, then we love him again) That I don't understand. We like our goalies to be big, and our D-men to be small. We love our Lalondes and Manyukins, but not our Jakes and Cams I heard the audio from yesterday but only the video of the Tanev goal. Personally if Jake was POed because he got walked, I think that is a good thing, and if Horvat doesn't like it he should put his fist in Jake's mouth, not swear at him and tell him to relax. That is why I didn't like Schally McShaller, telling the other team to relax on the ice. If Jake is running around hitting guys cuz he got embarrassed, that is a good thing. Bo talking without action, not so much anybody got a video of the whole thing? Seriously? Did you really just rip our captain for not over reacting and punching a teammate in the jaw. Bo did take action, by saying something and handling the situation like the leader (and adult) he is. Making a hot head feel stupid for their childish behavior is the best way to handle someone acting out like that. physical altercation a few days into training camp would have been the absolute worst way to handle the situation. Edited July 19, 2020 by shayster007 6 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herberts Vasiljevs Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 Virtanen's a goof, sorry not sorry. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guntrix Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 I particularly don't understand the accusations of double-standards when all of the controversy surrounding Jake is self-inflicted. We have a ton of young guys in the city right now taking part in team activities. So many players who could make headlines for the wrong reasons. Yet we're always hearing about the usual suspect. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attila Umbrus Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 48 minutes ago, guntrix said: I particularly don't understand the accusations of double-standards when all of the controversy surrounding Jake is self-inflicted. We have a ton of young guys in the city right now taking part in team activities. So many players who could make headlines for the wrong reasons. Yet we're always hearing about the usual suspect. Nailed it. At this point he still needs constant attention, which must be exhausting if I were the coach and maddening! All the raw talent but no drive or will of his own. Maybe too harsh? I don't mean to be. He's still on a 40 point pace! But when you have Pods, Tofolli, Boeser, MacEwan, on and on...and Jake still coasting makes you think he just doesn't get it. He's very on and off, and needs constant handling by the coaching staff. Honestly if we trade him he will still be a very good player for any team, and maybe he will be a power house one day...but will he miss the boat on our teams peak? He has a chance right now to mesh with a group that is uber dedicated and wants to win the cup. The players coming up behind him are just as hungry...anyways, hope he comes out and has a solid playoffs for us! Still love him, i'd rather him mature with our group than with another i'll say that! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 (edited) 16 hours ago, CanuckCup2022 said: Eriksson? Someone slap green in the face!! He is one of our best defensive forwards and pk'ers, by all accounts has been one of the hardest working players in camp and Green has him in literally the last spot, on the 4th/checking line. Just ignore his contract. Edit: He's also likely one of the first guys out if Ferland is healthy. Edited July 19, 2020 by aGENT 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 5 hours ago, Attila Umbrus said: Nailed it. At this point he still needs constant attention, which must be exhausting if I were the coach and maddening! All the raw talent but no drive or will of his own. Maybe too harsh? I don't mean to be. He's still on a 40 point pace! But when you have Pods, Tofolli, Boeser, MacEwan, on and on...and Jake still coasting makes you think he just doesn't get it. He's very on and off, and needs constant handling by the coaching staff. Honestly if we trade him he will still be a very good player for any team, and maybe he will be a power house one day...but will he miss the boat on our teams peak? He has a chance right now to mesh with a group that is uber dedicated and wants to win the cup. The players coming up behind him are just as hungry...anyways, hope he comes out and has a solid playoffs for us! Still love him, i'd rather him mature with our group than with another i'll say that! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wloutet Posted July 19, 2020 Share Posted July 19, 2020 Isn't this a time to have everybody get a shot? Virtanen will be there on game day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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