lmm Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 On 7/18/2020 at 4:56 PM, shayster007 said: Seriously? Did you really just rip our captain for not over reacting and punching a teammate in the jaw. Bo did take action, by saying something and handling the situation like the leader (and adult) he is. Making a hot head feel stupid for their childish behavior is the best way to handle someone acting out like that. physical altercation a few days into training camp would have been the absolute worst way to handle the situation. on what basis do you make this statement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 (edited) I listened to a recent episode of a canucks podcast. I won't name it because its related some to those terrible TSN1040 folks lol. BUT.. according to them when they were at a scrimmage the other day Jake made a mistake and got beat.. he then got frustrated and ran at a teammate (hitting). Apparently captain Bo wasn't impressed and yelled at him so loud and told him just because you f'd up doesn't mean you get to f'ing run around. Which was then followed by complete silence by everyone on the ice lol. Now I feel need to name the podcast so you can hear it for yourself. god damn jeff patterson. https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/vancast-jpat-drancer-show-about-vancouver-canucks/id1481428435 (starts at 16:30) They start talking about the scrimmages at the 8 minute mark. I fell asleep listening to it last night. Forget exactly where it is in there. (found it 16:30) Edited July 20, 2020 by Rush17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 30 minutes ago, lmm said: on what basis do you make this statement? As someone who played high level sports with many testosterone filled young men, and has spent their entire adult life working with athletes. Where do you get your punch first talk later? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, shayster007 said: As someone who played high level sports with many testosterone filled young men, and has spent their entire adult life working with athletes. Where do you get your punch first talk later? do you have an example ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, lmm said: do you have an example ? I have a feeling you don't handle altercations well if you think punching someone's the best method. lol Got in one too many fights? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, lmm said: do you have an example ? Nope, I have no reason to explain. You asked me why I feel you're wrong and I told you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 22 minutes ago, shayster007 said: As someone who played high level sports with many testosterone filled young men, and has spent their entire adult life working with athletes. Where do you get your punch first talk later? I dont think tonsil hockey counts as a sport my man. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, 73 Percent said: I dont think tonsil hockey counts as a sport my man. Nah not a hockey player. I can barely even skate. Couldn't afford equipment as a kid, so my parents got me in soccer. Fun fact though, both my parents played hockey growing up when they were young, and my Mum actually played at quite a high level. Edited July 20, 2020 by shayster007 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, shayster007 said: Nah not a hockey player. I can barely even skate. Couldn't afford equipment as a kid, so my parents got me in soccer. To be fair, if a hockey player thinks they are an expert on altercations, they're lying to themselves. lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 18 minutes ago, shayster007 said: Nope, I have no reason to explain. You asked me why I feel you're wrong and I told you. nice, you make a compelling arguement I give you Kevin Bieksa https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/kevin-bieksa-tells-story-fighting-fedor-fedorov-parking-lot/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, The Lock said: I have a feeling you don't handle altercations well if you think punching someone's the best method. lol Got in one too many fights? tbh I'd have been happy with laying the body on Jake. This is hockey, right, body checking is still aloud? When did swearing at your teammates become (captain)cool? Edited July 20, 2020 by lmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, lmm said: nice, you make a compelling arguement I give you Kevin Bieksa https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/kevin-bieksa-tells-story-fighting-fedor-fedorov-parking-lot/ Huh, didn't expect that. Was totally expecting you to go with the recent altercation between the Blues, but sure a 15 year old story from Boom works too. Regardless, nice interview. Man I loved Bieska when he played for us. Guy has a bright future in media too. Edited July 20, 2020 by shayster007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 45 minutes ago, 73 Percent said: I dont think tonsil hockey counts as a sport my man. You're doing it wrong 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 meh same ol nux fans blowing everything out of proportion. Its called coaching kid needs tough love to light a fire. Dif strokes. good to see Zac getting some reps. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, lmm said: tbh I'd have been happy with laying the body on Jake. This is hockey, right, body checking is still aloud? When did swearing at your teammates become (captain)cool? If we were talking about 2 different teams and actual hockey fights I'd agree. However, it's not unheard of for fights to break out between team members and most of the time it harms the team, which seems to be what you want to happen. It's a terrible situation to have happen and I'm honestly surprised you can't even seem to see that. That's also not the kind of leader Horvat is (in fact, I'd argue what you're implying isn't leadership at all). Edited July 20, 2020 by The Lock 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 16 minutes ago, The Lock said: If we were talking about 2 different teams and actual hockey fights I'd agree. However, it's not unheard of for fights to break out between team members and most of the time it harms the team, which seems to be what you want to happen. It's a terrible situation to have happen and I'm honestly surprised you can't even seem to see that. That's also not the kind of leader Horvat is (in fact, I'd argue what you're implying isn't leadership at all). you have annecdotal evidance, of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken. Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 While I have always feared what Yung1 was referring to about Jake not being able to reach his potential while playing in his home town I still think he has time to turn the ship around. He will show up to play hard when the season starts but it will be the “hockey iq” or chemistry or mental requirements that gets questioned eventually which is unfortunate. He has a couple years to get his head on right. For his contract value currently he is still and would be a good deal value wise but if he wants to make that next level cheddar on another contract he needs to be “all in” or hes gone once hitting UFA or before. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putgolzin Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 11 hours ago, lmm said: nice, you make a compelling arguement I give you Kevin Bieksa https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/kevin-bieksa-tells-story-fighting-fedor-fedorov-parking-lot/ That's a good example of when someone was being obnoxious and got dummied. But it's not realistic to think that the first stupid thing Fedor said got him dropped; when you take a guy outside (with his buddy no less!) it's most likely a case where things escalated after having told them to stfu. Similarly, if Virtanen had kept running around after being scolded it's realistic to think Bo would have escalated to the point of roughing him up. But you don't go from zero to a hundred on a teammate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 On 7/18/2020 at 4:42 PM, Boudrias said: I have a hard time believing this stuff. Virtanen was well on his way to a 50 point season. Getting 2PP time. Jake is the type of player Van has to have to be a serious CUP contender. The fact that he is a local kid is a bonus. Why do people keep lying about easily verifiable facts? Jake was not “well on his way to a 50 point season”. He wasn’t even likely on his way to a 40 point season. He was playing terribly and had been demoted to the 4th line and probably was going to be in the press box for another “lesson” if the season went on. He had scored zero goals and 1 point in his last 7 games. To reach 50 points in the final 13 games would have required him to go from a 0.14 PPG pace immediately to more than a point per game. Unless you believe in magical thinking that isn’t any reasonable reality. He had a great 6 week stretch in the middle of the season where he scored at close to a point a game. Before than and after that he was on a .25-.30 points per game average, just like his normal level of production. You can’t ignore 5 years of production and just take out a little blip where his line got in a heater and say that is the player he is. I got flamed when I said it was likely a blip... and it turned out to be a blip. Jeff Cowen turned into Conan the Brabarian by getting on a heater and having a stretch of more than a goal a game... it didn’t make him a 100 goal scorer. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpn1 Posted July 20, 2020 Share Posted July 20, 2020 In the end of the day, I can't see Green sitting an 18g and 18a player. Also I would rather have an angry Shotgun for the play-offs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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