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10 hours ago, Deets said:

You're glossing over the fact that because of the COVID cap other teams are being very cheap. In the years we signed our bottom 6, not only was the cap on an upward trajectory but it was far easier to unload veteran players like Sutter, Beagle, Rousell etc. Not to mention, if it wasn't for the Louongo recapture we could have afforded TT as well.

JB has made some bone head moves Roussel from the start was not the player we needed we needed someone tough i mean really tough, The Louongo recapture was not his fault , But not signing TT was he could have made room. The Virtanen experiment is just about over ( should have been traded) Podkolzin will replace him. Ferland has had concussion problems for awhile and should have never been signed. It is about cap management and JB does a bad job at that.

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4 hours ago, vannuck59 said:

JB has made some bone head moves Roussel from the start was not the player we needed we needed someone tough i mean really tough, The Louongo recapture was not his fault , But not signing TT was he could have made room. The Virtanen experiment is just about over ( should have been traded) Podkolzin will replace him. Ferland has had concussion problems for awhile and should have never been signed. It is about cap management and JB does a bad job at that.

Make room how? Did you miss all those reports saying that Benning was the busiest GM in the offseason? Jim was pounding the pavement and nobody was willing to take on the players we needed to get rid of.

 

But of course, Virtanen is the problem. :rolleyes:

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On January 3, 2021 at 7:27 AM, vannuck59 said:

JB has made some bone head moves Roussel from the start was not the player we needed we needed someone tough i mean really tough, The Louongo recapture was not his fault , But not signing TT was he could have made room. The Virtanen experiment is just about over ( should have been traded) Podkolzin will replace him. Ferland has had concussion problems for awhile and should have never been signed. It is about cap management and JB does a bad job at that.

You have written some bone headed posts and this one is a classic, with no connection to facts I mean really none. It's about dealing with reality and you do a bad job at that.

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13 hours ago, dougieL said:

I'm desperately hoping for a report that Virtanen is in good (perhaps even great) shape.

I would think we should hear something in regards to this today. I recall him reporting to camp at around 218 pounds last time. I’d like to see a number around 205. 

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2 hours ago, Locke Lamora said:

I would think we should hear something in regards to this today. I recall him reporting to camp at around 218 pounds last time. I’d like to see a number around 205. 

I don't think Jake can get down to 205 lb.  I think 210 lb. or 211 lb. would be just right for Jake.  His legs are huge.  That is where he gets his power and speed.  I think Jake will be in his best shape this year as a pro.  He spent the off season with Tyler Myers working out with him in Kelowna.  I think this bodes well for Jake.

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On 1/3/2021 at 11:35 AM, Deets said:

Make room how? Did you miss all those reports saying that Benning was the busiest GM in the offseason? Jim was pounding the pavement and nobody was willing to take on the players we needed to get rid of.

 

But of course, Virtanen is the problem. :rolleyes:

Virtanen is the reason I need to have dental surgery to remove my wisdom teeth. I have had it up to here with his Night at the Roxbury lookin' ass. Trade em Jimmy B.

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21 hours ago, dougieL said:

I'm desperately hoping for a report that Virtanen is in good (perhaps even great) shape.

The report that I just heard was that Hoglander was skating on Horvat's line and not Virtanen.  We shouldn't read too much into that but that's what I just heard.  I'm pretty sure that we're going to have a good team this year no matter how things shake out.  Having more quality players than jobs is a good thing in my opinion.  Go Canucks Go!

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1 hour ago, nux_win said:

The report that I just heard was that Hoglander was skating on Horvat's line and not Virtanen.  We shouldn't read too much into that but that's what I just heard.  I'm pretty sure that we're going to have a good team this year no matter how things shake out.  Having more quality players than jobs is a good thing in my opinion.  Go Canucks Go!

Hoglander if he's on this team is only in a top 6 role. I doubt Greener has the cajones to run Hoglander and Jake in the top 6. Pearson is a safe pick for LW. Despite a Hoglander, Horvat, Boeser line sounding perfect. Miller Petey Virtanen have flashes of brilliance too. Honestly, all that matters to me is Eriksson is not in the top 6. Hoglander, Jake, whoever. Just don't have Eriksson in the top 6.

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2 minutes ago, N7Nucks said:

Hoglander if he's on this team is only in a top 6 role. I doubt Greener has the cajones to run Hoglander and Jake in the top 6. Pearson is a safe pick for LW. Despite a Hoglander, Horvat, Boeser line sounding perfect. Miller Petey Virtanen have flashes of brilliance too. Honestly, all that matters to me is Eriksson is not in the top 6. Hoglander, Jake, whoever. Just don't have Eriksson in the top 6.

I think you're pretty safe there.  Unless of course there are an astounding number of injuries in practice.   

 

Go Canucks Go!

 

P.S. - I don't really believe in an impenetrable barrier between top 6 and bottom 6, players should be moved around based on need and based on their development.  Sure some are more suited to certain roles but it isn't cast in stone.  Thankfully there are a lot of options available so we don't really have to put people in roles they aren't comfortable with.  However a good NHL player has to be able to play in all situations even if they specialize in certain roles.

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“It will be up to him to decide where he plays — first, second third or fourth line,” said Green. “For us, it’s not what’s best for Jake. it’s what’s best for the team and he knows that as well. I’m not worried about finding a good fit (for Horvat). We started this way last year and we’ll find out in due time. We probably won’t know until couple of days before the Edmonton game.”

 

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10 hours ago, goog16 said:

Jake looks to be in great shape!!! Glad he spent the summer with Myers!!!

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Yeah I noticed his chin line is super tight. Hope he has a goood camp and can shake off all the years of controversy and bad vibes lol. If not the guys gonna need a change of venue. He looked somewhat confrontational later in the interview. He definitely is chomping at the bit and is ready to get going. I hope he comes out fast, physical and determined out of the gate.

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10 minutes ago, janisahockeynut said:

Jake really looks like "Don't F with me". It is probably the best shape of his life and feel somewhat powerful right now. If he carries that persona through camp and into the regular season, we will be hearing Miley's Cyrus's " Came in like a wrecking ball!" 

 

Seriously, he looks to be in a totally different mind set. Maybe the excercise and hanging with a older guy has rubbed off! Let's hope! Confidence is a great weapon!

its not the body, its his brain I want to see developed. He might have turned that corner and grown up, and if so it will be a big year for him. He's always had the physical tools. 

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8 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

its not the body, its his brain I want to see developed. He might have turned that corner and grown up, and if so it will be a big year for him. He's always had the physical tools. 

" he has always had the physical tools"

 

So, Jim, I may be way off here, but just because God gave you a body that "Looks" big, does not mean, it is totally ready. And you are right in terms that your mind set is so absolutely important, but when I was 20, I took a job in a rock pit, and I thought I was big and strong, then I worked in that pit for the 5 months, and I hardened up, I worked through the skinned knuckles, and I grew up. 

 

My dad had absolutely no time for my whining, and you learned to work through it. I would imagine that Myers learned those lessons early, and Jake had coasted on those legs of his.

 

Now, he gets with Myers, who is older, and its "no, no time for the lake, we will do that latter!" and Jake thinks oh, god!, but the time spent with Myers, puts him in that different mind set, or rather work ethic, and Myers says "its only a skinned knuckle, back to work!" so the mind is absolutely critical, but in doing so, Jake got stronger, and more confident.

 

That is what I meant and what I am hoping for.......we will see soon enough!

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4 minutes ago, janisahockeynut said:

" he has always had the physical tools"

 

So, Jim, I may be way off here, but just because God gave you a body that "Looks" big, does not mean, it is totally ready. And you are right in terms that your mind set is so absolutely important, but when I was 20, I took a job in a rock pit, and I thought I was big and strong, then I worked in that pit for the 5 months, and I hardened up, I worked through the skinned knuckles, and I grew up. 

 

My dad had absolutely no time for my whining, and you learned to work through it. I would imagine that Myers learned those lessons early, and Jake had coasted on those legs of his.

 

Now, he gets with Myers, who is older, and its "no, no time for the lake, we will do that latter!" and Jake thinks oh, god!, but the time spent with Myers, puts him in that different mind set, or rather work ethic, and Myers says "its only a skinned knuckle, back to work!" so the mind is absolutely critical, but in doing so, Jake got stronger, and more confident.

 

That is what I meant and what I am hoping for.......we will see soon enough!

Jakes been physically dominant, or at least could be if he wanted to, for a long time now. He was a beast in juniors. He's always been fast too. 

 

Sometimes kids take 23/24 or so to really mature between the ears. I mean my god, if you have kids, particularly teens, you know that so many of them, particularly the guys,  are as sharp as a sack of wet mice. 

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Just now, Jimmy McGill said:

Jakes been physically dominant, or at least could be if he wanted to, for a long time now. He was a beast in juniors. He's always been fast too. 

 

Sometimes kids take 23/24 or so to really mature between the ears. I mean my god, if you have kids, particularly teens, you know that so many of them, particularly the guys,  are as sharp as a sack of wet mice. 

LOL...oh, yes! LOL I hired about 10 college students every summer, and most were incredible, but every once in a while, you got the "Guy", who just could not apply himself.

 

But amazingly, the guy I remember, was stricter that I was, and had absolutely no ha, ha! The kids would take the weekend off and go party and this guy sat at home. He also was

 

the first guy to complain about someone not holding their end up. Eventually, I took him aside, and gave him a big brother talk, and told him to go out and have some fun, and let

 

me worry about the other stuff. He had a great rest of the summer, and really grew as a man. One of my favorite guys. He became an airline pilot. Cool guy!

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1 hour ago, janisahockeynut said:

Jake really looks like "Don't F with me". It is probably the best shape of his life and feel somewhat powerful right now. If he carries that persona through camp and into the regular season, we will be hearing Miley's Cyrus's " Came in like a wrecking ball!" 

 

Seriously, he looks to be in a totally different mind set. Maybe the excercise and hanging with a older guy has rubbed off! Let's hope! Confidence is a great weapon!

Please be fat... please be fat.......

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