Junkyard Dog Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 1 minute ago, N4ZZY said: If that's the deal, would you do it? Even if Boston had to add (what would they add to DeBrusk?) Depends what Debrusk+ is. A deal that might be interesting would be.. Pearson+Virtanen for Debrusk+Pick+Prospect. At that point it depends how good the pick and prospect are. Bruins have all their picks this year and IDK what their prospect pool looks like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, Junkyard Dog said: Depends what Debrusk+ is. A deal that might be interesting would be.. Pearson+Virtanen for Debrusk+Pick+Prospect. At that point it depends how good the pick and prospect are. Bruins have all their picks this year and IDK what their prospect pool looks like. Yeah. I don't know what Bruin's prospects pool is either. I could see DeBrusk lining up with Horvat and Höglander. I think that would be an incredible second line. Would have loved to keep Pearson, but DeBrusk at 24 is an upgrade over Pearson. Trade Pearson to Boston, only to sign him back to Vancouver during the off-season when he is a UFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhukini Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 (edited) He does look better defensively, but I didn't like that he choose to skate by checks in the ozone. He has lost every instinct to hit and physically punish the opposition. He simply looks like another Mason Raymond out there. Edited February 14, 2021 by CRAZY_4_NAZZY 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 Yeah... Have to admit I was yelling at the Jake in my TV in that play. My mom would have made that hit! Like at least try to poke check the guy as you fly by... jebus Jake. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 10 hours ago, Zhukini said: That’s a player that’s terrified to get caught up ice and get benched. Green has him playing scared and ineffective. Only way he snaps out of it is a new team or a new coach. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballisticsports. Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 1 hour ago, DeNiro said: That’s a player that’s terrified to get caught up ice and get benched. Green has him playing scared and ineffective. Only way he snaps out of it is a new team or a new coach. I think that's highly doubtful as the excuse, he can finish a check hard and skate back faster than most If he has been called out 2x by the GM publicly how he wants him to play, i am sure he has been told time and time again privately You don't have to fight, but with your size and speed be a nuisance out there, put the fear into guys and have them rush choices, hit clean and hard, cut to the front of the net, stand in front of the net. You are in the NHL making millions, use what you got and don't be afraid of a bruise for that kind of money 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comeback_Kings Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 1 hour ago, DeNiro said: That’s a player that’s terrified to get caught up ice and get benched. Green has him playing scared and ineffective. Only way he snaps out of it is a new team or a new coach. Anybody see the play where Jake turns away from what would have been a massive hit on Lucic along the boards in the neutral zone. That was Jake being a pro. Lucic would have had to thank him for passing up on that hit. I disagree with the whole no hockey IQ thing with Jake. He made it look easy to play Green's system last night and stayed disciplined. His size and speed is so tantalizing, we want to see it better utilized by coaching and the player. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bree2 Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 2 hours ago, DeNiro said: That’s a player that’s terrified to get caught up ice and get benched. Green has him playing scared and ineffective. Only way he snaps out of it is a new team or a new coach. see i disagree, Green has given Jake every opportunity to succeed, more so than any other player. Jake just doesn't want to do the work. although i do have to say parts of last night he was better, and i was cheering him on, but then he reverts to floating. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 My advice for Jake. Park in the crease and don't move. It's going to hurt. It's going to suck. And he has to be willing to do this. But you screen the goalie with your big frame, or put your stick down for a tap in. He would be far more useful. The Canucks need to stop trying to cycle behind the net on the attack. You can't score from there. (Unless it's Petey doing magic or Hoagy doing a lacrosse goal) 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 45 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: My advice for Jake. Park in the crease and don't move. It's going to hurt. It's going to suck. And he has to be willing to do this. But you screen the goalie with your big frame, or put your stick down for a tap in. He would be far more useful. The Canucks need to stop trying to cycle behind the net on the attack. You can't score from there. (Unless it's Petey doing magic or Hoagy doing a lacrosse goal) Also.....if you need any visual help in this see: Burrows. (All Getty images) NOTE: you will become slightly immune to crosschecks over time. It ain't easy....but somebody's gotta do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 16 minutes ago, debluvscanucks said: Also.....if you need any visual help in this see: Burrows. (All Getty images) NOTE: you will become slightly immune to crosschecks over time. It ain't easy....but somebody's gotta do it. Oh yeah...and don't expect a penalty to be called: unless it's against you! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 1 minute ago, higgyfan said: Oh yeah...and don't expect a penalty to be called: unless it's against you! Exactly. A guy sticks his dirty finger in your mouth and you clamp down. YOUR FAULT...SHOULDN'T HAVE A MOUTH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 14 hours ago, Zhukini said: That would have been a dumb penalty with the ref standing right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isam Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 1 hour ago, higgyfan said: That would have been a dumb penalty with the ref standing right there. lol. We must hit. Show maximum effort. Stupid plays be damned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 1 hour ago, higgyfan said: That would have been a dumb penalty with the ref standing right there. Yeah, it legit would've been interference since the Flame didn't have the puck. Such a focus on criticizing by PITB that basic game rules are forgotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knucklehead91 Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 1 hour ago, higgyfan said: That would have been a dumb penalty with the ref standing right there. Good read by Virtanen, if he threw a hit, he woulda taken a penalty as he could see the numbers the whole way. Instead, he read the body language and positioned himself to potentially intercept a pass, he turned and cut infront of Bennett and put his stick on the ice in anticipation of a pass from Bennett. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toyotasfan Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 Later in the game I could see Jake was on a short leash .when Beagle and Eriksson were in forechecking , Jake was hanging back in the neutral zone defensively. I thought that line played great and Jake managed 4 shots and 2 hits even though Green was watching him so closely. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 16 hours ago, DeNiro said: That’s a player that’s terrified to get caught up ice and get benched. Green has him playing scared and ineffective. Only way he snaps out of it is a new team or a new coach. Prefer a new coach. I'm all for Gallant to try to get the most out of Virtanen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 11 hours ago, Toyotasfan said: Later in the game I could see Jake was on a short leash .when Beagle and Eriksson were in forechecking , Jake was hanging back in the neutral zone defensively. I thought that line played great and Jake managed 4 shots and 2 hits even though Green was watching him so closely. I think with Jake the goals will come - his offence will come - but he needs to learn to play defense first. Play good defense, and you're at the very least a reliable player, even if you're not scoring goals. But if you're a defensive liability, then it doesn't matter. He'd need to be scoring goals like a top six player, but even then, playing defense poorly will just drive coaches up the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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