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1 hour ago, Fred65 said:

Forsberg or Zucker are not "heavies" in fact Virtanen to his credit apologised to Forsberg later, he didn't realize who it was. It's like having a fight with Petersson

I’m not saying they were heavies I just don’t think that initial fight holds as much weight as you stated that’s all 

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On 3/7/2021 at 12:20 PM, bree2 said:

didn't Pearson have 45 points last year, yes he has dropped off this year but so has Jake, now Jake has just a couple of good games just recently , i think we should wait have a wait and see attitude and see if Jake can keep this up, i watched Jake last night , and i was happy he is showing some confidence especially in his hitting, but he needs to go to the net like he did the other night. that was awesome!!!

Pearson is not a second liner. He played with Horvat and on the 2nd pp last season. Do you know how many times per game he skates in to the zone and with a million other options he decides to take a crappy shot right at the goalie? If he maybe had a higher iq I could see him doing better. I do not think we should resign him unless it’s for a good price and he plays the third line. We have other players that can do what Pearson does on the second line if not do better. A third line of motte Pearson and sutter will be able to shut other teams down and provide offence here and there. Jake is clearly suited for the top 6. Even then we also have hogs now and podz coming up soon too

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31 minutes ago, Canucksince99 said:

Pearson is not a second liner. He played with Horvat and on the 2nd pp last season. Do you know how many times per game he skates in to the zone and with a million other options he decides to take a crappy shot right at the goalie? If he maybe had a higher iq I could see him doing better. I do not think we should resign him unless it’s for a good price and he plays the third line. We have other players that can do what Pearson does on the second line if not do better. A third line of motte Pearson and sutter will be able to shut other teams down and provide offence here and there. Jake is clearly suited for the top 6. Even then we also have hogs now and podz coming up soon too

Jake s doing no better than Pearson this season.  once Petey comes back jake will probably be back on the third line, 

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Just now, bree2 said:

Jake s doing no better than Pearson this season.  once Petey comes back jake will probably be back on the third line, 

Jake would be doing a lot better if he had the same minutes on the second line as Pearson lol. That’s a fact. He’s clearly more suited for an offensive role. Pearson is not as good as all of you guys think. He just plays with Horvat and benefits from it quite a bit. Watch him play. Gets the puck, skates in by the boards, throws a floater right to the goalie or does something else stupid. Very rarely does he actually make the play that will give us the highest chance to score. He is not better than jake offensively. Forget what the stats say cause that doesn’t factor in the amount of opportunities they each get. You can literally see it when you watch every single game. 

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Just now, Canucksince99 said:

Jake would be doing a lot better if he had the same minutes on the second line as Pearson lol. That’s a fact. He’s clearly more suited for an offensive role. Pearson is not as good as all of you guys think. He just plays with Horvat and benefits from it quite a bit. Watch him play. Gets the puck, skates in by the boards, throws a floater right to the goalie or does something else stupid. Very rarely does he actually make the play that will give us the highest chance to score. He is not better than jake offensively. Forget what the stats say cause that doesn’t factor in the amount of opportunities they each get. You can literally see it when you watch every single game. 

jake is on the second line right now, and if you checked Pearson deserved to be on the second last year and Jake didn't. lets see how he works out now. 

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1 minute ago, bree2 said:

jake is on the second line right now, and if you checked Pearson deserved to be on the second last year and Jake didn't. lets see how he works out now. 

Yeah I know he is now. You talked about last year. Jake also had 18 goals last year on the third and fourth line. Obviously I hope they’re both very successful but I am positive the team would be better off if Pearson was on the third line when petey comes back instead of jake. 

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2 hours ago, Canucksince99 said:

Yeah I know he is now. You talked about last year. Jake also had 18 goals last year on the third and fourth line. Obviously I hope they’re both very successful but I am positive the team would be better off if Pearson was on the third line when petey comes back instead of jake. 

Pearson should be on 3rd line 22:33 mins ????? Jake 14:38 -- No way should Pearson play 8 mins more then Jake...Tonight

Sure hope we trade Pearson at trade deadline --Maybe late 2nd or 3rd round pick...

He is UFA  only worth 1.8 -- 2.2 million - 3rd line winger.. 15-18 goals -- 35 points ---

2021 season GP 29 - G - 5 --PTS 9  ---16:10 -  avg mins  ---- 2nd Line 

Imagine if BO had good wingers ? Hoglander is going to be very good---- Podkolzin -arrives soon will play good beside Horvat

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50 minutes ago, wildcam said:

Pearson should be on 3rd line 22:33 mins ????? Jake 14:38 -- No way should Pearson play 8 mins more then Jake...Tonight

Sure hope we trade Pearson at trade deadline --Maybe late 2nd or 3rd round pick...

He is UFA  only worth 1.8 -- 2.2 million - 3rd line winger.. 15-18 goals -- 35 points ---

2021 season GP 29 - G - 5 --PTS 9  ---16:10 -  avg mins  ---- 2nd Line 

Imagine if BO had good wingers ? Hoglander is going to be very good---- Podkolzin -arrives soon will play good beside Horvat

Finally someone that agrees with me lol. Jake should honestly be playing more than Pearson right now and Pearson should be flipped before the deadline. Jake takes his spot with ease on the left side next season. 

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Lol you idiots think Virtanen is a 2nd player now.

I still see the same problems in hockey IQ the day he was drafted. The only change I have noticed recently is his effort because he is on the trade block which is good cause even if Virtanen scores 30 goals this season, trade him because it will be an outlier year. 

 

You always want to sell high and buy low like stonks.

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30 minutes ago, Canucksince99 said:

Finally someone that agrees with me lol. Jake should honestly be playing more than Pearson right now and Pearson should be flipped before the deadline. Jake takes his spot with ease on the left side next season. 

Greener knows Jake for many, many years. There is a good reason why Greener gives Pearson more minutes per game than he hands to Jake. One reason is obvious: it's consistency. Pearson brings his game each and every night whereas Jake takes not only shifts off but also games. Greener has been given Jake top 6 opportunity countless times but Jake couldn't take advantage of it. There is a reason why Jake has been in the rumour mill over the last couple of months. Take a moment and think about it.

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3 minutes ago, grimmjaw said:

Lol you idiots think Virtanen is a 2nd player now.

I still see the same problems in hockey IQ the day he was drafted. The only change I have noticed recently is his effort because he is on the trade block which is good cause even if Virtanen scores 30 goals this season, trade him because it will be an outlier year. 

 

You always want to sell high and buy low like stonks.

last season was an outlier year for Jake with 18 goals and 18 assists in 69 games. Offseason would have been the perfect time to trade him away. Unfortunately the Top -6 player Jake didn't show off in the playoffs whereas Pearson contributed consistently.

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10 minutes ago, Wolfgang Durst said:

last season was an outlier year for Jake with 18 goals and 18 assists in 69 games. Offseason would have been the perfect time to trade him away. Unfortunately the Top -6 player Jake didn't show off in the playoffs whereas Pearson contributed consistently.

I’m being hopeful that jake can keep it up with his new found confidence. Jake has the potential to bring more offence than Pearson which is why I think we should keep him with the more offensive minded players. 

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18 minutes ago, grimmjaw said:

Lol you idiots think Virtanen is a 2nd player now.

I still see the same problems in hockey IQ the day he was drafted. The only change I have noticed recently is his effort because he is on the trade block which is good cause even if Virtanen scores 30 goals this season, trade him because it will be an outlier year. 

 

You always want to sell high and buy low like stonks.

Speaking of stonks... GME to the moon

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1 hour ago, Canucksince99 said:

Finally someone that agrees with me lol. Jake should honestly be playing more than Pearson right now and Pearson should be flipped before the deadline. Jake takes his spot with ease on the left side next season. 

LOL probably the reason why you're wrong. Jake was given every oppurtunity to succeed the last 6 seasons playing up and down the line up. Jake had ONE dominant game, big woop, before that the guy has been invisible

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1 hour ago, grimmjaw said:

Lol you idiots think Virtanen is a 2nd player now.

I still see the same problems in hockey IQ the day he was drafted. The only change I have noticed recently is his effort because he is on the trade block which is good cause even if Virtanen scores 30 goals this season, trade him because it will be an outlier year. 

 

You always want to sell high and buy low like stonks.

Yup, they think just because Jake had his little 2 goal game, all of a sudden "hes starting to get it now". I hope he keeps it up so we can ship Nerfgun Jake out of here and get more than just a bag of pucks

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1 hour ago, Wolfgang Durst said:

Greener knows Jake for many, many years. There is a good reason why Greener gives Pearson more minutes per game than he hands to Jake. One reason is obvious: it's consistency. Pearson brings his game each and every night whereas Jake takes not only shifts off but also games. Greener has been given Jake top 6 opportunity countless times but Jake couldn't take advantage of it. There is a reason why Jake has been in the rumour mill over the last couple of months.

This. Jake has had his opportunities, but has chosen not to take advantage of them. He is playing strong now because he knows his lack of effort has him a hairs distance from the door, but I am highly doubtful he will keep it up.

 

I hope he plays lights out.

 

Buy low, sell high.

 

As a side note, if I was one of our players working my ass off out there every game like Green insists I do, and then Jake saunters in and gets my ice time with his typical uninspired play, I'm going to be a little pissed. 

 

I believe I see it in clips of the player interactions and on the bench - I kinda feel like Virtanen is the odd man out... off the ice as well as on. I feel a team needs to be in sync and a complete unit, and as much as I've rooted for Jake since his arrival, I can't wait to see his spot filled with a guy who brings it every night.

 

Podkolzin anyone?

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5 hours ago, grimmjaw said:

Lol you idiots think Virtanen is a 2nd player now.

I still see the same problems in hockey IQ the day he was drafted. The only change I have noticed recently is his effort because he is on the trade block which is good cause even if Virtanen scores 30 goals this season, trade him because it will be an outlier year. 

 

You always want to sell high and buy low like stonks.

He's been playing well enough to earn himself some 2nd line mins, while Pearson hasn't been as good as he was, is what I think people are alluding to. 

 

BTW, maybe form some proper sentence structure, and spell check your s**t before you start calling people idiots. Makes you look like a prick. lol

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Gaudette bumps onto the 2nd line and all of a sudden scores a clutch goal, not to mention a nice chance he had set up in the slot where he could have scored. Meanwhile, it doesn't matter where Jake goes, he sucks the offensive life out of the line.

 

He needs to play consistently on a 3rd line with some north-south forwards. I thought Miller and Boeser would be good linemates for him but they're just too fast and good and Virtanen loses puck possession too much. The times he's played with Pettersson they've both let each other down - Petey doesn't maintain possession well and Virtanen isn't good enough to get it back or get into a decent scoring spot.

 

I think leave Virtanen with Sutter on the 3rd line and rotate their winger, someone who has some offensive flair would be ideal like Motte.

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2 hours ago, DownUndaCanuck said:

Gaudette bumps onto the 2nd line and all of a sudden scores a clutch goal, not to mention a nice chance he had set up in the slot where he could have scored. Meanwhile, it doesn't matter where Jake goes, he sucks the offensive life out of the line.

 

He needs to play consistently on a 3rd line with some north-south forwards. I thought Miller and Boeser would be good linemates for him but they're just too fast and good and Virtanen loses puck possession too much. The times he's played with Pettersson they've both let each other down - Petey doesn't maintain possession well and Virtanen isn't good enough to get it back or get into a decent scoring spot.

 

I think leave Virtanen with Sutter on the 3rd line and rotate their winger, someone who has some offensive flair would be ideal like Motte.

After all these years, there is only one more try left. Podkoldzin so far has been a better play matcher than scorer. Maybe Podkoldzin will set Virtanen up for goals. Other than than that,  I give up. 

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4 hours ago, Chickenspear said:

He's been playing well enough to earn himself some 2nd line mins, while Pearson hasn't been as good as he was, is what I think people are alluding to. 

 

BTW, maybe form some proper sentence structure, and spell check your s**t before you start calling people idiots. Makes you look like a prick. lol

Pearson points are way down  as are Jakes. a couple of games ago Jake got 5 hits , thats great but no sog, last night 2 sog on and one little hit. sorry but that is not 2nd line either. Pearson works hard every night and Jake is trying but he is still floating out there and wait for the puck to come to him. he needs to fight for the puck like Pearson does

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