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12 hours ago, rotiman187 said:

How is he still in the lineup? Just saw him trying to dump the puck in from the Habs blueline, he hit the dman and the habs got a scoring chance going the other way. This is how bad he has become. 

In Jake's defence, the whole team did this last night and he did score a big goal at the time. The rest of his game was yes, average though. He's getting basically top line opportunities at the moment, minutes still down at 12-15 but he's skating with our best center. Can't ask for much more than that.

 

I've said it before and watching Gaudette skate and shoot, I'll say it again, swap these two. Virtanen with Roussel and Gaudette with Horvat and we might generate a bit more offence.

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13 hours ago, rotiman187 said:

How is he still in the lineup? Just saw him trying to dump the puck in from the Habs blueline, he hit the dman and the habs got a scoring chance going the other way. This is how bad he has become. 

He hasn't exactly f***ed up any more than the rest of the team. Seems you're looking for any mistake to criticize him on, and you can literally do that with any other Canuck. Edler screened Holtby twice on goals against, Miller gave the puck up in his own zone and gave up a good scoring chance without even trying to get back in the play, Hughes gambles on his pinches too often, Sutter can't seem to ever get the puck out of his own zone, etc... could go on for days.

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2 hours ago, Chickenspear said:

He hasn't exactly f***ed up any more than the rest of the team. Seems you're looking for any mistake to criticize him on, and you can literally do that with any other Canuck. Edler screened Holtby twice on goals against, Miller gave the puck up in his own zone and gave up a good scoring chance without even trying to get back in the play, Hughes gambles on his pinches too often, Sutter can't seem to ever get the puck out of his own zone, etc... could go on for days.

That's exactly it. Everyone turns a blind eye to other players. Even though Miller has been scoring clutch goals, he has been giving away the puck way too many times (esp with blind passes and up the middle) while when Jake does it once (even if he tries hard to steal it back) people complain and say he is the worst player ever. 

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18 hours ago, rotiman187 said:

How is he still in the lineup? Just saw him trying to dump the puck in from the Habs blueline, he hit the dman and the habs got a scoring chance going the other way. This is how bad he has become. 

still better than this post however

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6 hours ago, Chickenspear said:

He hasn't exactly f***ed up any more than the rest of the team. Seems you're looking for any mistake to criticize him on, and you can literally do that with any other Canuck. Edler screened Holtby twice on goals against, Miller gave the puck up in his own zone and gave up a good scoring chance without even trying to get back in the play, Hughes gambles on his pinches too often, Sutter can't seem to ever get the puck out of his own zone, etc... could go on for days.

The difference is the rest of those players show up to most games. Guess virtanen single goal last night is enough to keep him in the lineup for the rest of the year for you. 

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7 hours ago, DownUndaCanuck said:

In Jake's defence, the whole team did this last night and he did score a big goal at the time. The rest of his game was yes, average though. He's getting basically top line opportunities at the moment, minutes still down at 12-15 but he's skating with our best center. Can't ask for much more than that.

 

I've said it before and watching Gaudette skate and shoot, I'll say it again, swap these two. Virtanen with Roussel and Gaudette with Horvat and we might generate a bit more offence.

except Gaudette is centering our 4th line at the moment

and is looking pretty good doing so

Maybe if we want Gaudette to become our 3C we should let him work some bugs out as 4C

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, lmm said:

except Gaudette is centering our 4th line at the moment

and is looking pretty good doing so

Maybe if we want Gaudette to become our 3C we should let him work some bugs out as 4C

 

 

 

Nah Greener' is making the playoff push to get his new contract, Bump Sutter to the 4th line.

 

There  is a decent group of forward options if healthy. 

 

Vesey-Miller-Boeser

Pearson-Horvat-Virtanen

Hoglander-Petersson-Gaudette

Motte-Sutter-Hawryluk

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3 minutes ago, Chip Kelly said:

Nah Greener' is making the playoff push to get his new contract, Bump Sutter to the 4th line.

 

There  is a decent group of forward options if healthy. 

 

Vesey-Miller-Boeser

Pearson-Horvat-Virtanen

Hoglander-Petersson-Gaudette

Motte-Sutter-Hawryluk

ya looks good

any thoughts on the injureds return dates?

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3 minutes ago, lmm said:

ya looks good

any thoughts on the injureds return dates?

That is the big question though.

 

Petersson hopefully  back in a week last I read?

 

Pearson who knows how long could be out for a month.

 

NHL refuses to force teams to give accurate injury reports like the NFL does. Majorly annoying if you play fantasy hockey or want to wager on these games when you find out last minute who is in and out of the lineup.

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1 hour ago, Chip Kelly said:

That is the big question though.

 

Petersson hopefully  back in a week last I read?

 

Pearson who knows how long could be out for a month.

 

NHL refuses to force teams to give accurate injury reports like the NFL does. Majorly annoying if you play fantasy hockey or want to wager on these games when you find out last minute who is in and out of the lineup.

ya, because covid

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3 hours ago, rotiman187 said:

The difference is the rest of those players show up to most games. Guess virtanen single goal last night is enough to keep him in the lineup for the rest of the year for you. 

I guess you didn't pay attention for the first half of the year when no one but Höglander showed up to play 

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11 minutes ago, Chickenspear said:

I guess you didn't pay attention for the first half of the year when no one but Höglander showed up to play 

I dont think you compare JV with guys like Edler and Miller, those are proven guys. JV hasn't proven nothing in his career, except last year when he had 16 goals, then he comes into the bubble overweight. Now youd think he knows hes on his last straw in Vancouver, yet he has 4 goals and 0 assists, yes ZERO in 30 games . But its not his fault. Its the teams fault. 

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6 minutes ago, rotiman187 said:

I dont think you compare JV with guys like Edler and Miller, those are proven guys. JV hasn't proven nothing in his career, except last year when he had 16 goals, then he comes into the bubble overweight. Now youd think he knows hes on his last straw in Vancouver, yet he has 4 goals and 0 assists, yes ZERO in 30 games . But its not his fault. Its the teams fault. 

If they're proven guys, don't you think they should be held just as accountable as Jake because they should know better than to make numerous, unforced, defensive turnovers?

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2 minutes ago, Chickenspear said:

If they're proven guys, don't you think they should be held just as accountable as Jake because they should know better than to make numerous, unforced, defensive turnovers?

Now im lost. I didn't know JV was a defensive specialist. Hes a top 6 pick who we expect to produce and play a physical game. He does neither of those things. 

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1 minute ago, rotiman187 said:

Now im lost. I didn't know JV was a defensive specialist. Hes a top 6 pick who we expect to produce and play a physical game. He does neither of those things. 

He's 3rd on the team in hits (63), and his offensive numbers have been increasing every year before this season, with a couple more until he should be peaking. He's a solid 3rd/fringe 2nd liner when he's on. BTW, I don't think anyone expects him to play up to his draft position this far into his career. He was a "top 6 pick" in a draft 6 years ago... get over it.

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3 minutes ago, Chickenspear said:

He's 3rd on the team in hits (63), and his offensive numbers have been increasing every year before this season, with a couple more until he should be peaking. He's a solid 3rd/fringe 2nd liner when he's on. BTW, I don't think anyone expects him to play up to his draft position this far into his career. He was a "top 6 pick" in a draft 6 years ago... get over it.

Yes i dont expect him to be a top 6 quality player, but its alright to have  4 goals, 0 assists in 30 games from a top 6 pick right? Don't be suprised now JV isn't in the lineup come next season. 

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1 hour ago, rotiman187 said:

Yes i dont expect him to be a top 6 quality player, but its alright to have  4 goals, 0 assists in 30 games from a top 6 pick right? Don't be suprised now JV isn't in the lineup come next season. 

Can you proofread your post? First part you say that you don't expect him to be a top 6 player but the second part, you disappointed he only has 4 goals as a top 6 player, so what is it buddy? 

 

And also, him being overweight at training camp is so two years ago, stop living in the past. 

 

As another poster said, if he wasn't top 10, this thread wouldn't have been this long. It is not cherry picking when you are ignoring his draft status, it's just appreciating him as a serviceable, middle 6 forward. 

 

 

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