Jake Virtanen | #18 | RW

[Jimmy McGill 42,862]

57 minutes ago, lmm said:

funny that you just said the Canucks couldn't attract talent because  Wonkie Willie 

but then you say Gauncer had plenty of opportunity... 77 of his games were played under The Wonk

 

then under the Green Monster he is passed over for players like Ganlund, Loui, Baertschi, Goldy, Gaudette (the shiney new thing) and Timmy ("relax") Schaller

I mean, you can make a pretty good argument all of them outplayed Gaunce in either scoring or physical play 

[Jimmy McGill 42,862]

1 hour ago, Boudrias said:

20-57-37 games in Vancouver is a fair look. The Bruins gave him 1 game. Now playing in Sweden. 241 games in the AHL. 

yeah exactly. Maybe more than fair. 

[lmm 2,388]

1 minute ago, Jimmy McGill said:

yeah exactly. Maybe more than fair. 

or maybe its just another example of not great developement from Team Canuck

[-AJ- 16,067]

24 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

I mean, you can make a pretty good argument all of them outplayed Gaunce in either scoring or physical play 

Gaunce had worse offense than Beagle for the majority of his time, and that's really saying something. However, he showed improvement over time especially later on. That said, it was a big improvement on almost nothing, so it still wasn't very impressive. It is interesting that he had 4 points in his last 4 NHL games, but it's hard to say if that was puck luck or a sign of genuine improvement.

 

He has 9 points in 15 games with Vaxjo in the SHL, but I'm not sure that's really better than he ever was in the past, given the SHL is of a similar level to the AHL, and those are similar to his AHL numbers.

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[Jimmy McGill 42,862]

14 hours ago, lmm said:

or maybe its just another example of not great developement from Team Canuck

who are we specifically talking about? not sure I can think of a prospect that didn't make it here just based on our coaching alone, e.g. other than Tryamkin being annoyed by Wllie D. 

[AbrasiveAjax 779]

I am tired of sobriety, i need to shotgun some beers Jake 

[Dats hockey 1,223]

43 minutes ago, AbrasiveAjax said:

I am tired of sobriety, i need to shotgun some beers Jake 

I know the nicknames taken but he might need a new one. Jake “The Ghost” Virtanen 

[BCNate 1,955]

HIs buyout numbers are really good.  If Seattle doesn't grab him, can't see how we keep him.  Costs us $50k next year, $500k the year after.

 

https://www.capfriendly.com/buyout-calculator/jake-virtanen#results

[Jimmy McGill 42,862]

32 minutes ago, BCNate said:

HIs buyout numbers are really good.  If Seattle doesn't grab him, can't see how we keep him.  Costs us $50k next year, $500k the year after.

 

https://www.capfriendly.com/buyout-calculator/jake-virtanen#results

has it really come to this? 

[KirkSave 399]

Gotta buy out Loui beofre Jake. Offensivley, he has struggled mightily this year. However, the last few games he has thrown some bone crunhcing hits on Nylander and Chabot. I doubt we buy him out. But that is just my opinion. I hope we keep him around for his final contract year if Seattle doesn't take him. He is a solid bottom 6 player who can fill in on the PP and top 6 if needed and if he turns his game around we can either hang onto him as a utility forward or trade him heopefully, rather than a buyout.

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12 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

has it really come to this? 

I think it has.  If Seattle doesn't take him, I can't see him back next year, and I can't see much of a market for him.  We are going to have to make a few tough moves to make the cap work next year, can we really have 2.5 tied up on a guy who have 7 points in his last 50 games?

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1 hour ago, KirkSave said:

Gotta buy out Loui beofre Jake. Offensivley, he has struggled mightily this year. However, the last few games he has thrown some bone crunhcing hits on Nylander and Chabot. I doubt we buy him out. But that is just my opinion. I hope we keep him around for his final contract year if Seattle doesn't take him. He is a solid bottom 6 player who can fill in on the PP and top 6 if needed and if he turns his game around we can either hang onto him as a utility forward or trade him heopefully, rather than a buyout.

A bone crunching hit would have killed Nylander.

[Jimmy McGill 42,862]

1 hour ago, BCNate said:

I think it has.  If Seattle doesn't take him, I can't see him back next year, and I can't see much of a market for him.  We are going to have to make a few tough moves to make the cap work next year, can we really have 2.5 tied up on a guy who have 7 points in his last 50 games?

ugh. 

 

I guess we can try waivers first. 

[BCNate 1,955]

8 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said:

ugh. 

 

I guess we can try waivers first. 

Very true.  Someone may see some upside in him on a low risk 1 year move.

 

[bigbadcanucks 2,873]

2 hours ago, BCNate said:

I think it has.  If Seattle doesn't take him, I can't see him back next year, and I can't see much of a market for him.  We are going to have to make a few tough moves to make the cap work next year, can we really have 2.5 tied up on a guy who have 7 points in his last 50 games?

If Seattle doesn't pick Jake, and no trade can be made for him, the only option as I see it is to buy him out.  Doing so gives the team $2.5M cap relief in 2021-22 and adds $500K cap liability in 2022-23 and hits FA $1.4M is cash. 

 

I would buy out Jake if Seattle doesn't take him and there is no deal to be had.

[bigbadcanucks 2,873]

4 hours ago, BCNate said:

HIs buyout numbers are really good.  If Seattle doesn't grab him, can't see how we keep him.  Costs us $50k next year, $500k the year after.

 

https://www.capfriendly.com/buyout-calculator/jake-virtanen#results

Sorry Nate...just scrolled up to see your post. 

[KirkSave 399]

1 hour ago, higgyfan said:

A bone crunching hit would have killed Nylander.

Amazingly, Nylander's hair didn't even shift even though his body bent under the brute force of the check.

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7 hours ago, KirkSave said:

Gotta buy out Loui beofre Jake. Offensivley, he has struggled mightily this year. However, the last few games he has thrown some bone crunhcing hits on Nylander and Chabot. I doubt we buy him out. But that is just my opinion. I hope we keep him around for his final contract year if Seattle doesn't take him. He is a solid bottom 6 player who can fill in on the PP and top 6 if needed and if he turns his game around we can either hang onto him as a utility forward or trade him heopefully, rather than a buyout.

This is true.  Two bone crunching hits in two consecutive games.  This is unheard of for Jake.  It's exciting too see, but more than that it's a totally disheartening reminder of the player that we thought that we were getting when Jake was drafted.... but never did.

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4 hours ago, KirkSave said:

Amazingly, Nylander's hair didn't even shift even though his body bent under the brute force of the check.

I know Nylander comes off a bit arrogant and as a floater, but man he's got skills and he's not as soft as people say, goes to the net and didn't even leave the ice after that heavy hit, instead driving play in the other zone on the same shift.