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18 minutes ago, NewbieCanuckFan said:

Witness the career of former 1st round pick Jim Sandlak.  Was like a monster playing against boys in the world junior tournament.  You'd swear Eric Lindros was out there lol.  Then he played against fully grown men in the NHL.:lol:

Sandlak had a wicked shot coming down the wing. He used his size at times. Don't you think it was another example of a team bringing a young player on to quickly?

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1 hour ago, Boudrias said:

Sandlak had a wicked shot coming down the wing. He used his size at times. Don't you think it was another example of a team bringing a young player on to quickly?

If my memory serves me right Sandlak scored the winning goal at WJC, and that was it we'll have him. He never became a "star" player. His best years was when he played with Ronning and had Momesso on the other wing, twin towers

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Jakes combination of size, speed, physicality and a great shot was what was so tantilizing at the draft. 

 

If he ever learns to protect the puck and cut in from the outside, its game over.

But if that never happens, he'll still be a serviceable bottom 6 player but not enough hockey sense to make him a defensive specialist. 

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43 minutes ago, CanucksJay said:

Jakes combination of size, speed, physicality and a great shot was what was so tantilizing at the draft. 

 

If he ever learns to protect the puck and cut in from the outside, its game over.

But if that never happens, he'll still be a serviceable bottom 6 player but not enough hockey sense to make him a defensive specialist. 

In a second tier swiss league

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4 hours ago, CanucksJay said:

Pretty sure I heard this was an Aqualini pick lol

Who knows whats true and whats not these days...

For the most part I think you are right. Pretty hard to recover sources 7 years after the fact but the owners liked the size and speed combination but GMJB still had the final say.

Albeit Benning was on the job for only a few weeks at the draft so he likely had to rely on the scout's recommendations.

 and the combine interviews/

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Been reading in various articles about how Jake's going to be a buy-out candidate this off-season even before the case completes. While I think the Canucks can justify the buy-out purely from a hockey perspective as he regressed this season, will they be brave enough to say that part of the reason they're doing it is because of the ongoing accusations? I'm also wondering what everyone's thoughts on how agents and maybe even players may view that move. Maybe it's a good thing as agents will more than ever let their players know that they will be held accountable? 

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2 hours ago, CanucksJay said:

Jakes combination of size, speed, physicality and a great shot was what was so tantilizing at the draft. 

 

If he ever learns to protect the puck and cut in from the outside, its game over.

But if that never happens, he'll still be a serviceable bottom 6 player but not enough hockey sense to make him a defensive specialist. 

Coming up to 7 years in the league and you think he'll figure it out now? And I think he's got bigger problems to solve at the moment.

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3 minutes ago, 250Integra said:

Coming up to 7 years in the league and you think he'll figure it out now? And I think he's got bigger problems to solve at the moment.

Who knows what it takes for a player to wake up.

 

It took Kassian a couple of trades and crashing into a tree and getting help. 

 

For JV, it might be almost facing a criminal sentence and seeing his NHL dreams dissapear to wake up

 

Problem is, we saw glimpses of Kass' play making ability and vision when he played here. Jake is more of a tunnel vision down the wing and shoot type of guy. 

 

So maybe I'm just hoping for a Kassian like turnaround when all evidence points elsewhere.. 

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5 hours ago, Fred65 said:

If my memory serves me right Sandlak scored the winning goal at WJC, and that was it we'll have him. He never became a "star" player. His best years was when he played with Ronning and had Momesso on the other wing, twin towers

 Pat Quinn comment on Sandlak : He likes to take a big shot and go for a nice skate...faint praise indeed. This describes Jake a lot of his shifts as well.

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4 hours ago, CanucksJay said:

Jakes combination of size, speed, physicality and a great shot was what was so tantilizing at the draft. 

 

If he ever learns to protect the puck and cut in from the outside, its game over.

But if that never happens, he'll still be a serviceable bottom 6 player but not enough hockey sense to make him a defensive specialist. 

Depends on if he improves off this year. He spent most of the year playing at a 13th forward level. He has to put up more points to justify being so mediocre (at best) defensively). IMO unless he steps it up back to 2019-20 regular season levels, he's headed for the AHL or Europe.

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I am just hoping this is all not true but I think no matter what happens, Jake would be better off being traded away from Vancouver.  If he is innocent, I hope he can get a fresh start on another team.  Someone will take a chance on him.  I guess it will be sorted out this summer. B)

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Just now, dpn1 said:

I am just hoping this is all not true but I think no matter what happens, Jake would be better off being traded away from Vancouver.  If he is innocent, I hope he can get a fresh start on another team.  Someone will take a chance on him.  I guess it will be sorted out this summer. B)

IMO Jake will almost certainly be bought out 

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On 5/31/2021 at 4:06 PM, CanucksJay said:

Who knows what it takes for a player to wake up.

 

It took Kassian a couple of trades and crashing into a tree and getting help. 

 

For JV, it might be almost facing a criminal sentence and seeing his NHL dreams dissapear to wake up

 

Problem is, we saw glimpses of Kass' play making ability and vision when he played here. Jake is more of a tunnel vision down the wing and shoot type of guy. 

 

So maybe I'm just hoping for a Kassian like turnaround when all evidence points elsewhere.. 

I'm pretty sure his NHL dreams disappeared already.

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On 5/31/2021 at 10:42 AM, Boudrias said:

Sandlak had a wicked shot coming down the wing. He used his size at times. Don't you think it was another example of a team bringing a young player on to quickly?

Maybe.  Could be the higher expectations of being a 1st round pick as well.  In any case, shows the dangers on relying too much on a short tournament.  Laffs dealt a goalie prospect in future Vezina trophy winner Rask because at least in part the strong Juniors Tournament Pogge had.

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Just now, NewbieCanuckFan said:

Maybe.  Could be the higher expectations of being a 1st round pick as well.  In any case, shows the dangers on relying too much on a short tournament.  Laffs dealt a goalie prospect in future Vezina trophy winner Rask because at least in part the strong Juniors Tournament Pogge had.

True.  And no more low hockey sense guys (dough heads) with our top picks. 

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On 5/31/2021 at 2:06 PM, GarthButcher5 said:

For the most part I think you are right. Pretty hard to recover sources 7 years after the fact but the owners liked the size and speed combination but GMJB still had the final say.

Albeit Benning was on the job for only a few weeks at the draft so he likely had to rely on the scout's recommendations.

 and the combine interviews/

JB prior to arriving in Vcr had been scouting for Boston, had attended all the Boston scouting meeting. he was as well appraised of the draft as any other in fact better. He had the views of all the Boston scouts as well as all the Vcr scouts

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5 minutes ago, higgyfan said:

Jake was the kind of pick an owner would be drooling over.  Hometown kid that can crush the opponents, skate like the wind and has a great shot.  Pretty hard to say who's pick this was.

 

What coulda woulda shoulda been.

rumor has it he was the owners pick because Luigi Aquailini knows his parents

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