UFCanuck Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Yes I just threw up a little in my mouth looking at the #33 pick......brutal Nonis was a beast at drafting eh. Patrick White and Ellington were his cinnamon apple picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter.S-Kerouac Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Yes I just threw up a little in my mouth looking at the #33 pick......brutal Because there are so many house hold names on that list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter.S-Kerouac Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 I think I will bring this back to Jake here for a minute. Does anyone think based on his performance this year he should make the big club next year or stay in the dub and Marinate for a bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Building Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 I think I will bring this back to Jake here for a minute. Does anyone think based on his performance this year he should make the big club next year or stay in the dub and Marinate for a bit? Impossible to answer without 2 things happening first. One being the draft, and the moves Benning makes will alter his chances (ie moving vets for picks, players, or standing pat), and the other being his performance at the main camp. I think he has enough skill, but the sample size of games I have to judge the rest of his game on is too small for me to say whether he's NHL ready or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 (edited) I think I will bring this back to Jake here for a minute. Does anyone think based on his performance this year he should make the big club next year or stay in the dub and Marinate for a bit? My prediction is that Virtanen will be back in Junior next year. Horvat made the team this year, which surprised a lot of people, including WD, apparently. And Horvat was (and is) an extremely mature player for his age. In addition to having NHL size and strength he also had an NHL level game in defensive positioning, which is very rare for his age. And he brought something the Canucks desperately needed -- a centre who could take defensive zone faceoffs and play good defense against big skilled centers on the other side. And his whole attitude is mature. Among other things he does not take bad penalties (or many penalties at all). While Virtanen is an excellent skater and is thought to have NHL level strength his game is much less mature than Horvat's was. And there won't be as many spots available next year, depending on what happens in the lead-up to the draft. The Canucks have the Sedins, Burrows, Vrbata, Higgins, Hansen, and Kassian under contract. And Baertschi and Vey have to be on the team as they will not clear waivers. And the consensus is that the Canucks want to re-sign Dorsett and Matthias. Horvat will obviously be on the team. And Kenins will likely be on the team. That makes 13 and that might be the entire forward group. And then there are the Utica prospects: Guance, Shinkaruk, Jensen, and Grenier, although none of them are generating a lot of enthuiasm right now. But I do not see a spot for Virtanen unless the Canucks make some trades. And it is not completely obvious that Virtanen stays ahead of McCann and Cassels in the prospect rankings. Those two guys have had fantastic years. Edited March 9, 2015 by JamesB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter.S-Kerouac Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 My prediction is that Virtanen will be back in Junior next year. Horvat made the team this year, which surprised a lot of people, including WD, apparently. And Horvat was (and is) an extremely mature player for his age. In addition to having NHL size and strength he also had an NHL level game in defensive positioning, which is very rare for his age. And he brought something the Canucks desperately needed -- a centre who could take defensive zone faceoffs and play good defense against big skilled centers on the other side. And his whole attitude is mature. Among other things he does not take bad penalties (or many penalties at all). While Virtanen is an excellent skater and is thought to have NHL level strength his game is much less mature than Horvat's was. And there won't be as many spots available next year, depending on what happens in the lead-up to the draft. The Canucks have the Sedins, Burrows, Vrbata, Higgins, Hansen, and Kassian under contract. And Baertschi and Vey have to be on the team as they will not clear waivers. And the consensus is that the Canucks want to re-sign Dorsett and Matthias. Horvat will obviously be on the team. And Kenins will likely be on the team. That makes 13 and that might be the entire forward group. And then there are the Utica prospects: Guance, Shinkaruk, Jensen, and Grenier, although none of them are generating a lot of enthuiasm right now. But I do not see a spot for Virtanen unless the Canucks make some trades. And it is not completely obvious that Virtanen stays ahead of McCann and Cassels in the prospect rankings. Those two guys have had fantastic years. Thank you well thought out and articulated post. I fully agree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsiders Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Hows Virtanen doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdatb Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Hows Virtanen doing? How's Nylander doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorvat Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 How's Nylander doing? Hows Ehlers doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Hows Ehlers doing? Hows Virtanen doing? Could be doing better. Personally I am expecting more in terms of point production sine he's a high 1st rounder. Seems to have improved on puck distribution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orka Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 I'll leave it up for discussion because frankly I haven't seen much of Virtanen to have a concrete knowledge of his game. But from what I've seen from him, I've found his game to be eerily similar to Kesler's. A big body who throws his weight around, isn't afraid to scrap and has a strong ability to put the puck in the net... is my connection between the two viable? or have I not seen enough of virtanens game to make that judgement? where do you see virtanen fitting into the canucks going forward? hopefully he'll be everything we've hoped for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gaudette Celly Posted March 12, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 12, 2015 Not even close. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket. Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 jakes a better hitter and skater and he doesnt dive like kes does keslers a better 2 way forward while jake is decent two way and scores and hits hard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gstank29 Posted March 12, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 12, 2015 jakes a better hitter and skater and he doesnt dive like kes does keslers a better 2 way forward while jake is decent two way and scores and hits hard that grammar is making me cringe 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter Soldier Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 that grammar is making me cringe You learn to tune it out awfully quick. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken kaniff Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Kes is plays much better defensively. From what iv seen Virtanen is faster, hits harder and has better offense, but isnt the two way player Kes is. He's more like a Max Pacioretty 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S N Y P E R S 7 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nux4lyfe Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Only time will tell how good Virt is, otherwise this thread is kinda useless.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastVanCanuck Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Vitrines doesn't come across pouty to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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