Realtor Rod Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Button said Virtanen should be selected in the 2nd round before the draft then right before the draft he changed it to 6th. Hes not gospel by any means. I think he got his GM gig just how Torts got the Van gig. Charisma. Button has a lesser job than Nick Kypreos in the NHL today. Take it for what it's worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwags Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 People weren't lying when they said Virtanen is fast and physical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post elvis15 Posted May 21, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2015 News1130 Sports @News1130Sports 10m Utica gm Pat Conacher says Jake Virtanen was great in game 7 last night : "It's going to be hard to take him out of the lineup." #Canucks Conacher on Virtanen : "He played 11-12 min, goes to dirty areas, heavy body, he's earning a spot." #Canucks 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Always good to hear. We could have used that against Calgary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Yes and TSN had jake's hockey IQ at 3/5 which is low. But everyone on CDC is smarter than the guys that do it for a living. Especially Gstank FWIW, even if you're taking that TSN ranking as "truth", 3/5 would be "slightly above average", not "low". He may not have "elite" IQ but he does have attributes that compensate for that. He simply needs to be paired with a more cerebral player or two, get some coaching and he'll be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uselessstats Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 (edited) FWIW, even if you're taking that TSN ranking as "truth", 3/5 would be "slightly above average", not "low". He may not have "elite" IQ but he does have attributes that compensate for that. He simply needs to be paired with a more cerebral player or two, get some coaching and he'll be fine. This is so true. Anyone will look "low" when you compare them to the best in the game. Does Jake have low hockey sense/vision compared to Sam Reinhart or Henrik Sedin? Hell ya. So does Ryan Kesler who scored 41 goals mainly through being big, fast, having a big shot, and working like a demon every time he hit the ice. Basically the only thing Kesler had over Virtanen is that insane hustle. Oh and good deployment on the PP with the Sedins back in 2010-11. Hockey IQ isn't a light switch that is "on" or "off". You don't "have it" or "don't have it". And what the hell is a 3/5 anyway? Certainly some guys have more and some have less but they all have it enough to get very far in their hockey development. Besides there are several facets to "Hockey IQ"... vision and passing, what you do when you have the puck, where you go when you don't, when to pass vs shoot, anticipating plays, etc. Some of those Jake is good at, others maybe less. But he has enough to score 45 goals with scrubs with second line ice time as a young 17 year old. If you think that doesn't require a solid degree of hockey IQ (esp. goal scoring IQ) then I don't know what to tell you. Maybe Stamkos and Ovie have low hockey IQs too because all they do is score goals with their elite skating and shooting skills. Cause that's how you determine hockey IQ it seems ... Edited May 21, 2015 by uselessstats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Didnt watch the game but from the highlights he looked like he played really well. Got pucks deep and forechecked hard. Shinkaruk looked good too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realtor Rod Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Pretty sturdy words from the boss down there. I wonder if JB has input, I assume he would. These games are going to help him a lot I would imagine. Should take some of the nerves out of making your pro debut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 jake virtanen is the weapon, it's up to the playmaker(s) on his line to aim it and fire. i see him being somewhere between a james neal and a max pacioretty if the canucks get lucky. on an unrelated note, does anyone know if pat and cory conacher are related? i could google it i guess but this seemed easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 From the highlights I saw of last night he kinda reminded me of Hansen the way he got pucks deep and used his speed to beat defenders to the puck as well as causing havoc on the forecheck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanGnome Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 jake virtanen is the weapon, it's up to the playmaker(s) on his line to aim it and fire. i see him being somewhere between a james neal and a max pacioretty if the canucks get lucky. on an unrelated note, does anyone know if pat and cory conacher are related? i could google it i guess but this seemed easier. It appears the only relation between the two begins and ends at the name. Pat Conacher does have a son, though he's a goalie and 5 years older than Cory and is named Pat Conacher Jr. Senior: http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=68816 Junior: http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=250283 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 on an unrelated note, does anyone know if pat and cory conacher are related? i could google it i guess but this seemed easier. No, but Cory is a distant relative of Lionel & Co. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 It appears the only relation between the two begins and ends at the name. Pat Conacher does have a son, though he's a goalie and 5 years older than Cory and is named Pat Conacher Jr. Senior: http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=68816 Junior: http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=250283 he played backup for eddie lack as an emergency contingency after luongo was traded, if memory serves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyllenhaal Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Before his AHL games I thought there was no way he was going to make the NHL next year, but he has really impressed me. He's going to give Willie and Benning a tough decision to make next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.DirtyDangles Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Ha just got to update his wiki page :D His current team still said The Hitmen Cant wait for the Utica - Grand Rapids Series to get under way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Karlsson Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Said since day 1 he'll be on the team next year, just like I said before the season started with Horvat. These guys are built for the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 (edited) Said since day 1 he'll be on the team next year, just like I said before the season started with Horvat. These guys are built for the NHL. I do hope your right, I was with you on Horvat but next year we will have Grenier, Shinkaruk, Gaunce and I will bet Cassels all pushing for a spot as well...then there is Jensen who I think is trade bait and Sven B. who will take a spot. Sedins/ Vrbata Sven / Horvat / Virtanen Shinkaruk / Cassels / Grenier Gaunce / Bonino / Kassian Leaves Dorsett, Richardson, Matthias, Hansen, Higgins, Kenins and Vey for the spares...that's a lot of spares. Assuming Cassels, Gaunce and Grenier (or Shink) do not make it, that still leaves 4 guys for 1 or 2 spots. It's finally going to be a real dog fight for spots next year. Edited May 22, 2015 by Rollieo Del Fuego Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Off_The_Schneid! Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 He will make the team Nhl size and speed It would be a waste of a year playing on the hitmen More so than Horvat going back for the knights 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firestorm238 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 I've gotta agree with that - at worst he'll be an upgrade to the fourth line, and get better experience and coaching being up with the big team. Maybe he could be loaned out to Team Canada for the WJC too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Shirokov Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 (edited) I do hope your right, I was with you on Horvat but next year we will have Grenier, Shinkaruk, Gaunce and I will bet Cassels all pushing for a spot as well...then there is Jensen who I think is trade bait and Sven B. who will take a spot. Sedins/ Vrbata Sven / Horvat / Virtanen Shinkaruk / Cassels / Grenier Gaunce / Bonino / Kassian Leaves Dorsett, Richardson, Matthias, Hansen, Higgins, Kenins and Vey for the spares...that's a lot of spares. Assuming Cassels, Gaunce and Grenier (or Shink) do not make it, that still leaves 4 guys for 1 or 2 spots. It's finally going to be a real dog fight for spots next year. That lineup is never going to happen. Most of our prospects currently in the AHL are pretty average at best. The only one that did light up the AHL was Baertschi, and he barely stayed in the lineup in CGY/VAN. Even Linden Vey, who tore up the AHL and is much more developed, had trouble staying in the lineup. I don't see anyone in the system beating solid players like Higgins, Hansen and Dorsett next year. If two of our prospects made the NHL next year, I'd call that a win. My guess: Corrado and Baertschi next year. Edited May 22, 2015 by Sergei Shirokov 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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