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Button said Virtanen should be selected in the 2nd round before the draft then right before the draft he changed it to 6th. Hes not gospel by any means. I think he got his GM gig just how Torts got the Van gig. Charisma.

Button has a lesser job than Nick Kypreos in the NHL today. Take it for what it's worth.

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Yes and TSN had jake's hockey IQ at 3/5 which is low. But everyone on CDC is smarter than the guys that do it for a living. Especially Gstank

FWIW, even if you're taking that TSN ranking as "truth", 3/5 would be "slightly above average", not "low".

He may not have "elite" IQ but he does have attributes that compensate for that. He simply needs to be paired with a more cerebral player or two, get some coaching and he'll be fine.

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FWIW, even if you're taking that TSN ranking as "truth", 3/5 would be "slightly above average", not "low".

He may not have "elite" IQ but he does have attributes that compensate for that. He simply needs to be paired with a more cerebral player or two, get some coaching and he'll be fine.

This is so true. Anyone will look "low" when you compare them to the best in the game. Does Jake have low hockey sense/vision compared to Sam Reinhart or Henrik Sedin? Hell ya. So does Ryan Kesler who scored 41 goals mainly through being big, fast, having a big shot, and working like a demon every time he hit the ice. Basically the only thing Kesler had over Virtanen is that insane hustle. Oh and good deployment on the PP with the Sedins back in 2010-11.

Hockey IQ isn't a light switch that is "on" or "off". You don't "have it" or "don't have it". And what the hell is a 3/5 anyway?

Certainly some guys have more and some have less but they all have it enough to get very far in their hockey development. Besides there are several facets to "Hockey IQ"... vision and passing, what you do when you have the puck, where you go when you don't, when to pass vs shoot, anticipating plays, etc.

Some of those Jake is good at, others maybe less. But he has enough to score 45 goals with scrubs with second line ice time as a young 17 year old. If you think that doesn't require a solid degree of hockey IQ (esp. goal scoring IQ) then I don't know what to tell you. Maybe Stamkos and Ovie have low hockey IQs too because all they do is score goals with their elite skating and shooting skills. Cause that's how you determine hockey IQ it seems ...

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jake virtanen is the weapon, it's up to the playmaker(s) on his line to aim it and fire.

i see him being somewhere between a james neal and a max pacioretty if the canucks get lucky.

on an unrelated note, does anyone know if pat and cory conacher are related? i could google it i guess but this seemed easier.

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jake virtanen is the weapon, it's up to the playmaker(s) on his line to aim it and fire.

i see him being somewhere between a james neal and a max pacioretty if the canucks get lucky.

on an unrelated note, does anyone know if pat and cory conacher are related? i could google it i guess but this seemed easier.

It appears the only relation between the two begins and ends at the name.

Pat Conacher does have a son, though he's a goalie and 5 years older than Cory and is named Pat Conacher Jr.

Senior: http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=68816

Junior: http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=250283

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It appears the only relation between the two begins and ends at the name.

Pat Conacher does have a son, though he's a goalie and 5 years older than Cory and is named Pat Conacher Jr.

Senior: http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=68816

Junior: http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=250283

he played backup for eddie lack as an emergency contingency after luongo was traded, if memory serves.

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Said since day 1 he'll be on the team next year, just like I said before the season started with Horvat.

These guys are built for the NHL.

I do hope your right, I was with you on Horvat but next year we will have Grenier, Shinkaruk, Gaunce and I will bet Cassels all pushing for a spot as well...then there is Jensen who I think is trade bait and Sven B. who will take a spot.

Sedins/ Vrbata

Sven / Horvat / Virtanen

Shinkaruk / Cassels / Grenier

Gaunce / Bonino / Kassian

Leaves Dorsett, Richardson, Matthias, Hansen, Higgins, Kenins and Vey for the spares...that's a lot of spares.

Assuming Cassels, Gaunce and Grenier (or Shink) do not make it, that still leaves 4 guys for 1 or 2 spots.

It's finally going to be a real dog fight for spots next year.

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I do hope your right, I was with you on Horvat but next year we will have Grenier, Shinkaruk, Gaunce and I will bet Cassels all pushing for a spot as well...then there is Jensen who I think is trade bait and Sven B. who will take a spot.

Sedins/ Vrbata

Sven / Horvat / Virtanen

Shinkaruk / Cassels / Grenier

Gaunce / Bonino / Kassian

Leaves Dorsett, Richardson, Matthias, Hansen, Higgins, Kenins and Vey for the spares...that's a lot of spares.

Assuming Cassels, Gaunce and Grenier (or Shink) do not make it, that still leaves 4 guys for 1 or 2 spots.

It's finally going to be a real dog fight for spots next year.

That lineup is never going to happen. Most of our prospects currently in the AHL are pretty average at best. The only one that did light up the AHL was Baertschi, and he barely stayed in the lineup in CGY/VAN. Even Linden Vey, who tore up the AHL and is much more developed, had trouble staying in the lineup. I don't see anyone in the system beating solid players like Higgins, Hansen and Dorsett next year.

If two of our prospects made the NHL next year, I'd call that a win. My guess: Corrado and Baertschi next year.

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