Canucks1219 Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 At this note, Nylander is also older and has a hockey father grooming him where as Jake was barely 17 and doing this against kids 2 years older than him. Not that it's relevant because we don't know how good these professional 'men' are, but he managed 1 goal in 22 games during that time and was then loaned out because his development wasn't progressing. I guess the men were good enough to shut Nylander down. That being said, Nylander's a pass-first winger. Saw some of that wizardry already in the Leafs prospects warmup coverage. He can skate and he can pass. Meanwhile Virtanen's out. So no hype-building opportunity at the moment. Oh well. I think you guys are misunderstanding me because I'm talking about circumstance as opposed to straight-up production. I'm not implying that Nylander is better than Virtanen... All I'm saying is that you're comparing statistics between players in pretty different situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Nylander was already playing professionally against men much older than him. Jake was dealing with, for the most part, teenagers. EDIT: Typo. Jakes 17. He's not exactly a big fish in a small pond. There are probably more experienced players there then himself. I'd take Jake's man sized body over Nylander's playmaking skill. Just because of our conference and because he probably is less likely of 'busting'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 N7Nucks; Exactly! Benning and Willie D will build a NHL version of a WHL team. Big enough not to be pushed around but a team approach that can get the goals when needed. I expect a speedier version of the Bruins. It will work come playoff time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 N7Nucks; Exactly! Benning and Willie D will build a NHL version of a WHL team. Big enough not to be pushed around but a team approach that can get the goals when needed. I expect a speedier version of the Bruins. It will work come playoff time. A faster version of the Bruins, with a Vezina caliber goalie and perrenial Norris candidate on the blue line? Just add more scoring Ya...i'll take it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derp... Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I really wish Jake was able to play at the Prospects Tourny this year. Just want to see what he's got! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
"Bull" Horvat Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Why we still compare with the Ehlers is confusing, we have another Ehlers like player in Shinkaruk. Virtanen's top ceiling would be a jeff carter on the wing and I'm fine with that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derp... Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Shinky has better hands than Ehlers, but Ehlers is a better skater in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustABandwagoner Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Compare Virtanen with Ritchie?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 (edited) Shinky has better hands than Ehlers, but Ehlers is a better skater in my opinion. Virtanen is as fast as Ehlers, a line of Shinkaruk/ Horvat/ Virtanen is scarier then with Ehlers replacing Virtanen. That line has some built in protection, with Ehlers it would be a rough go in the corners. Shinkaruk may be better than Ehlers at sneaky cross ice passes and such. Shinky has better hands than Ehlers, but Ehlers is a better skater in my opin Edited August 18, 2014 by Rollieo Del Fuego Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rollieo Del Fuego Posted August 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted August 18, 2014 (edited) Compare Virtanen with Ritchie?? One has a bigger upside, one has a bigger backside... Edited August 18, 2014 by Rollieo Del Fuego 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.53 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 (edited) Compare Virtanen with Ritchie?? Virtanen is to Ritchie, as Evander Kane is to Milan Lucic. I think that's a fair comparison to look at them by. Edited August 18, 2014 by TheLiveWire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asian player Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 When Ritchie is on his game, he can take over. However, he's more streaky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William_Clarkson Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 (edited) Compare Virtanen with Ritchie?? Ritchie is the traditional heavy, physically dominating power forward. Virtanen is bigger than most players, but not close to Ritchie, but he's a lot faster and has a better shot. You can still call him a power forward though, due to his physicality. Edited August 18, 2014 by William_Clarkson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure_Pavel Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Not sure if his shot is better than richies but definitely better skater and better back hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bp79 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 I love what the pro scout says about jake one his bio on page 1, he's got a pro game now. if not for the injury id like someone to tell me of another player in this draft who is more nhl ready then Jake. When you see young guys sent back down, 9 times outta 10 its because they aren't ready size wise or strength wise jake is both. Plus his shot is already there and since he plays a more "meat and potatoes" style its easier to translate that to the nhl rather than a style of say Nylander or Ehlers. Both will get just crushed at there size. And yes maybe we will see some sick plays from those guys here and there over a full season it's obvious to anyone with hockey knowledge that jakes game could be consistent and succesfull right away which is freakin nuts considering he is the youngest guy in the draft and 1 month away for being a 2015 draftee. Let that soak in all you pro Nylander fans I dont see anything in jakes game that leads me to believe he wont end up being just a huge steal in this draft. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamJamIam Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 One has a bigger upside, one has a bigger backside... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimp C Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 (edited) That actually describes Virtanen a lot more than Nylander, virtanen is a much more selfish player than Nylander is. incorrect. Virtanen doesn't circle the net, he just goes straight into it, without any care of who or what is infront of him. Edited August 19, 2014 by Pimp C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 incorrect. Virtanen doesn't circle the net, he just goes straight into it, without any care of who or what is infront of him. Won't be as easy in the NHL as it is in the CHL. Hopefully he develops his game more offensively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimp C Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Courtesy of CanaFan on hfboards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashlynnbrookefan Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 I love what the pro scout says about jake one his bio on page 1, he's got a pro game now. if not for the injury id like someone to tell me of another player in this draft who is more nhl ready then Jake. When you see young guys sent back down, 9 times outta 10 its because they aren't ready size wise or strength wise jake is both. Plus his shot is already there and since he plays a more "meat and potatoes" style its easier to translate that to the nhl rather than a style of say Nylander or Ehlers. Both will get just crushed at there size. And yes maybe we will see some sick plays from those guys here and there over a full season it's obvious to anyone with hockey knowledge that jakes game could be consistent and succesfull right away which is freakin nuts considering he is the youngest guy in the draft and 1 month away for being a 2015 draftee. Let that soak in all you pro Nylander fans I dont see anything in jakes game that leads me to believe he wont end up being just a huge steal in this draft. There are guys in this draft more NHL ready then JV, I'm a big fan of the pick but that is a stupid statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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