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3 hours ago, Jermo09 said:

Seems that this thread has quieted down.. Jake turns it around after the WJC and people aren't to interested. I hope jake keeps the good work up and ends the season off strong!

Pretty much says what drove 600+ pages here.  As long as Jake plays decently and shows progress, it'll keep "them" subdued.

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45 minutes ago, The 5th Line said:

If someone hears something they don't want to hear they just freak out and start crying, that is what keeps me subdued. 

 

 

On 1/12/2016 at 10:04 AM, J.R. said:

Or.... Perhaps 5 games or 20 games etc in to the season/his NHL career as a 19 year old kid was a bit too early to damning him as a 'misused pick and career third liner at best' (paraphrasing, and not just you) while he adjusts to playing at this level...

 

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Well because the thread is so quiet heres my honest opinion on Jake.

His intensity and tenacity is terrific. Holy hell the way this kid hits is insane. His speed and power are grerat. His shot is amazing and he has tremendous upside. Had his passing skills and hockey IQ been better he should have been taken first overall in the draft. He has the potential to be the future face of the franchise

The problem:

He's being rushed. When a player needs to develop hockey senses and a few finer skills in the game, you send that player down to your farm team. He'd probably rip the AHL up once he finds his groove. Unfortunately, I just don't think he's being handled properly. Him being in the NHL right now seems to force him into playing his one dimensional game repeatedly in order to be successful short term.This asks him not to develop the finer areas of the game including hockey IQ. Considering this, I don't see Jake reaching his maximum potential.

Therefore I project JV to become of a fringe first liner and not the franchise forward that we hope for. I hope that I'm wrong though. There are two ways this situation is playing out. Either Benning really sees something in this kid and he believes that he'd progress more in the NHL than in the AHL which is contrary to what we believe or JB wants to keep his job and is under pressure from Aquillini to get wins which is what everyone believes. Although all this is just speculation.

 If anything, I hope JB is doing the right thing, he's an experienced scout and looks at the game and player progression differently than us hockey fans do.

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4 minutes ago, Sandro17 said:

Well because the thread is so quiet heres my honest opinion on Jake.

His intensity and tenacity is terrific. Holy hell the way this kid hits is insane. His speed and power are grerat. His shot is amazing and he has tremendous upside. Had his passing skills and hockey IQ been better he should have been taken first overall in the draft. He has the potential to be the future face of the franchise

The problem:

He's being rushed. When a player needs to develop hockey senses and a few finer skills in the game, you send that player down to your farm team. He'd probably rip the AHL up once he finds his groove. Unfortunately, I just don't think he's being handled properly. Him being in the NHL right now seems to force him into playing his one dimensional game repeatedly in order to be successful short term.This asks him not to develop the finer areas of the game including hockey IQ. Considering this, I don't see Jake reaching his maximum potential.

Therefore I project JV to become of a fringe first liner and not the franchise forward that we hope for. I hope that I'm wrong though. There are two ways this situation is playing out. Either Benning really sees something in this kid and he believes that he'd progress more in the NHL than in the AHL which is contrary to what we believe or JB wants to keep his job and is under pressure from Aquillini to get wins which is what everyone believes. Although all this is just speculation.

 If anything, I hope JB is doing the right thing, he's an experienced scout and looks at the game and player progression differently than us hockey fans do.

He can't play in the AHL this season...

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i see his as a Dustin Brown type player when Brown was a 30 goal scorer, fast and would hit like a truck. Jake being much faster than Brown ever was. i think he just needs time to learn that what worked in junior isnt going to work in the nhl. he will come around and start scoring. also should be put on the LW. he would score many more goals that way

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18 hours ago, ken kaniff said:

i see his as a Dustin Brown type player when Brown was a 30 goal scorer, fast and would hit like a truck. Jake being much faster than Brown ever was. i think he just needs time to learn that what worked in junior isnt going to work in the nhl. he will come around and start scoring. also should be put on the LW. he would score many more goals that way

Excellent comparison tbh.


Gonna go off the board here and say that Vancouver-based players are more akin to American players. We don't have backyard-rinks... the pedagogy of the sport is not about history or tradition (Canucks are more like a corporation than a historic franchise), it's just to do whatever you can to stand out. Jake has learned how to stand out from an early age. 

However, Dustin Brown may not be a high IQ player, but has a keen sense of timing. He goes after key players with big hits at the right time, knows when to backcheck and when to go to the net, and is privy to the fact that the refs are always watching him through a microscope. Jake's missteps at the WJC show that he hasn't figured that element out quite yet. I don't think he'll be a "leader" like Brown, but we don't need him to be, we have Bo Horvat.

Otherwise, hell yeah. I see Jake as Dustin Brown for sure, but with a Jeff Carter type release. 
He's a deadly hybrid of players. As has been stated, if he were a better playmaker with higher hockey IQ, we'd be talking about Eric Lindros-lite. But a slightly more dynamic Dustin Brown is a very welcome addition to our roster, and methinks he'll be here a long time.

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