Boudrias Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 1 hour ago, Crabcakes said: One of 2 scenarios likely happened last year: Jake played with the Canucks which was a case of misreading his maturity level and that he would grow into an NHL role, or They wanted him to be under the direct control of the Canucks group which mean't playing with the big club because he could not play in Utica. Either way, sending him to Utica this year is being patient. I give Benning credit for not making a decision and stubbornly sticking with it. He saw that playing with the Canucks wasn't working for Jake and sent him to Utica. Virtanens long term development must be front and centre. totally agree that Jake in Utica is the right call. He should play at least till spring before he gets a recall for a game or two. Still hoping Utica makes playoffs and Virtanen can play there then. Would not be surprised to see some collegiate players go pro in time for the Calder. Highly probable that Boeser goes pro at that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 4 hours ago, Crabcakes said: One of 2 scenarios likely happened last year: Jake played with the Canucks which was a case of misreading his maturity level and that he would grow into an NHL role, or They wanted him to be under the direct control of the Canucks group which mean't playing with the big club because he could not play in Utica. Either way, sending him to Utica this year is being patient. I give Benning credit for not making a decision and stubbornly sticking with it. He saw that playing with the Canucks wasn't working for Jake and sent him to Utica. Virtanens long term development must be front and centre. I think JB had no choice but to send him down. Willie just flat out ignored JV. Remember the whole "he's here to pick up his stuff" debacle? One way or the other, they came to the right decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 5 hours ago, khay said: I think JB had no choice but to send him down. Willie just flat out ignored JV. Remember the whole "he's here to pick up his stuff" debacle? One way or the other, they came to the right decision. Who knows. Willie might have been trying to be funny. Much was made of the comment but I don't think it meant anything at all. There was no real reason for Virtanen to come back. The 3 managers Linden, Benning and Dejardins had to get together to make the final decision on Jake (I guess but couldn't they have just held a conference call?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSnipeshow91 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Just tuned in to the comets game and virtanen scores on the pp. Followed up his rebound after hitting the post. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEON.KNEE Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Comets win...can't find media of JV's goal yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 On 12/5/2016 at 10:33 AM, stuman491 said: I've coached volleyball at a high level for 10 years now. Every coach is different, some coaches are old school some are cutting edge. I've worked with both. In the end its really up to the player. Every player can learn something from each coach they have. However some players do not like a coach and choose not to take anything out of their experience with that coach. Whether Benning or WD are old or new school guys Jake can learn from them if he decides to take their input to heart. Pretty much it. And some take time before they really get the discipline side of things. Ask me how I know this lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Weasel Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 1 hour ago, NEON.KNEE said: Comets win...can't find media of JV's goal yet https://streamable.com/ffbb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 4 minutes ago, The Weasel said: https://streamable.com/ffbb Looking more like the player he was in junior. Amazing what having confidence and having a coach that plays you and lets you make mistakes can do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 On 12/4/2016 at 10:20 AM, Rush17 said: hope he stays down there and helps Utica push for the Calder. would definitely help Demko with the added offense and speed. Jakes speed is one of his biggest attributes. you don't normally see guys who are physical like him who can skate like the wind and shoot so Damn hard. Nylander imo wasn't an impact player last night. he created some buzz and hype and if he isn't on the scoreboard he doesn't bring up. Jake has size that can crumble players and straight ahead speed that can force defensemen back. if Jake can be a little more agile and work on his side to side movements and stick handling in close... we may have a similar player too that of Jamie Benn. it's a long shot but if he can add something other then just his north south game he will excel. he cut to the net well and changed lanes well in Jr. let's see if he can do it in the a. yeah. i agree. the only question is if he can put it all together. he's got all the tools, but can he actually use them all at once? once he demonstrates he can, on a regular basis, he'd have earn his ice time with the big club. until then, let him simmer, and get better. force him to earn everything, since it felt and seemed like he was entitled to things when he was with the Canucks. Jake genuinely seems like a good kid, with a strong family and parents. I can't see how he doesn't eventually mature, and gets his game together. once he does, nobody's going to remember Will Nylander, or Ehlers, or whoever. If he doesn't get his game together..well.....we're talking bust for years....Cam Neely? Noooo....it'll be talks of Stojanov all over again....and guess where Stojanov was drafted? 7th overall in the '91 draft class.... I am desperately hoping that Jake doesn't bust....he's got time on his side, for now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Glad to see him getting back in to the swing of things. Still a long road ahead back to the NHL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJDDawg Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 (edited) 17 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Looking more like the player he was in junior. Amazing what having confidence and having a coach that plays you and lets you make mistakes can do. Not necessarily a good thing. Not taking away from the goal, but in the videos I've seen of him in Utica so far and as this video shows, he insists on playing the perimeter game instead of crashing the net with the puck and creating havoc. I really hope we start to see that in his game. Edited December 8, 2016 by MJDDawg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 1 minute ago, MJDDawg said: Not necessarily a good thing. Not taking away from the goal, but in the videos I've seen of him in Utica so far and as this video shows, he insists on playing the perimeter game instead of crashing the net with the puck and creating havoc. I really hope we start to see that in his game. Baby steps. Start with putting the puck in the net again, then he can worry about getting back to being a physical presence. We need him to be a goal scorer first and foremost. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 10 minutes ago, N4ZZY said: yeah. i agree. the only question is if he can put it all together. he's got all the tools, but can he actually use them all at once? once he demonstrates he can, on a regular basis, he'd have earn his ice time with the big club. until then, let him simmer, and get better. force him to earn everything, since it felt and seemed like he was entitled to things when he was with the Canucks. Jake genuinely seems like a good kid, with a strong family and parents. I can't see how he doesn't eventually mature, and gets his game together. once he does, nobody's going to remember Will Nylander, or Ehlers, or whoever. If he doesn't get his game together..well.....we're talking bust for years....Cam Neely? Noooo....it'll be talks of Stojanov all over again....and guess where Stojanov was drafted? 7th overall in the '91 draft class.... I am desperately hoping that Jake doesn't bust....he's got time on his side, for now... Power forwards usually start to make a jump in their play/development around 22-24. IMO he's got too many tools and has the right attitude to not be at the very least a solid middle 6 guy. Top 6 if he reaches his ceiling. People just shouldn't be surprised/disappointed not to see it for another 2-4 years. Patience. Unfortunately, that likely means a LOT more Nylander/Ehlers bitching for the next few years 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firstname Lastname Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Confidence leads to better performance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobart16 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Good goal here by JV. He had a pretty good game tonight. https://streamable.com/lfg6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 3 minutes ago, hobart16 said: Good goal here by JV. He had a pretty good game tonight. https://streamable.com/lfg6 that is a sick goal. that d man stopping the first puck at the line was pretty sweet too lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 (edited) 5 minutes ago, hobart16 said: Good goal here by JV. He had a pretty good game tonight. https://streamable.com/lfg6 is that 2 goals in 2 games? Edited December 8, 2016 by Rush17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 1 hour ago, DeNiro said: Looking more like the player he was in junior. Amazing what having confidence and having a coach that plays you and lets you make mistakes can do. That what the AHL is for (at least that is one thing it is for). And that in one reason why Jake is better off there this year than he was with the big team. Still hate the decision to keep him with the Canucks last year instead of sending him back to junior. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post N4ZZY Posted December 8, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted December 8, 2016 2 hours ago, Rush17 said: is that 2 goals in 2 games? got to stay in the AHL the rest of the year. light a fire under his ass, and get him going... 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Harvey Spector Posted December 8, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted December 8, 2016 (edited) Another goal on the left side. His first shot on the right side was saved but he came around the net and got that quick release off on the left side and top shelf. Jake is a left winger. Looks so much more comfortable on the left side. I hope he stays down in Utica all year long and plays predominately on the left side. He has so much potential and raw ability. Not to mention we could very much use his 225 pound frame to lay out some big hits on the opposition. Edited December 8, 2016 by Harvey Spector 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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