Dekey Pete Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Virtanen has the 3rd highest shots on goal per game (Grenier: 2.34, Subban: 2.29 and Virt: 2.26) on the team, for players with over 10 games played. He also is amongst some of the lowest shooting percentages on the team. Leads you to believe that he is getting his chances but just not converting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkyfresh Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 1 hour ago, suitup said: Evened out your post. You weren't even bashing the guy and got minused. Quite sad really. I think the minus was probably for the wrong info I put on who scored. Thanks though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkyfresh Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 44 minutes ago, The Sedge said: Virtanen has the 3rd highest shots on goal per game (Grenier: 2.34, Subban: 2.29 and Virt: 2.26) on the team, for players with over 10 games played. He also is amongst some of the lowest shooting percentages on the team. Leads you to believe that he is getting his chances but just not converting. From what I've seen, his shot selection is poor. Reminds me of Samuelsson, taking all those shots from the far wings. Not really shooting from dangerous areas so easy for goalie to stop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manroth19 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 I watched the game tonight too. I thought virtanen looked fine. Cassels is the problem. Omg he is terrible I had high hopes for that guy. Unrealistic hopes I guess. Funkys right about the stream tho. Hand to focus sometimes. Virt needs to work on his shot big time in the off season. If it was just a little more accurate he'd have a ton more goals. So many shots over the net (not so much tonight just what I've noticed watching him) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manroth19 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 He had a couple really nice take aways which is one underrated talent the kid has. Don't worry about the shot totals. Like I said above he just needs to work on his shot a bit get a bit more accuracy. It would be nice if he played with a better centre, not just some defensive scrub. Cassels is pretty bad. He literally creates nothing and his turnover rate must be so high. I must have screamed "feed him" iunno how many times breaking out and cassels would with make a turnover or panic and just dump it in virt don't hit anymore (well nothing remotely close to last year) it's stupid I see the puck get dumped into the zone and I'm waiting to see virt come into the screen to flatten someone and nothing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 I think sometimes we are asking a lot out of Virtanen, this being his first pro season (aside from last season, where he wasn't and shouldn't have been in the NHL). Fans expect him to be good at everything. He's not going to be good at everything. Definitely a work in progress with this kid, and we'll see how he turns out. Might not be worthy of being selected at 6th overall, but what can you do about that now? lol. all we can do is just continue rooting for the kid to be successful, hope to God that he has an awesome off-season where he keeps his weight down, and works like hell on his shot so that when he does come back next season in Utica - he's producing offensively and driving the play for whatever line he's on. IF he makes the Canucks, I want him to be at least on the middle six, no bottom six time - he just won't develop like that. He needs repetition and the only way he's going to get most of that is down in the AHL practicing good habits, and having those good work habits ingrained in his every day. Glad he got a point tonight. Better than blanks. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tiger-Hearted Posted February 16, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted February 16, 2017 (edited) When Benning talked about Jake never facing adversity, look no further than Alex Burrows. Burr was never drafted, played in the ECHL and when he played his first full season in the AHL with the Moose, he scored only 9 goals in 72 games and he was 23. A year later, Burr is playing in his NHL rookie season. By the time he was 27, he was ready to take that next step as Coach AV put him on the Sedin line. The rest is history and whether Burrows finishes his career as a Canuck or not, #14 will one day be in the ROH. Let's see how Jake does by the time he's 23. Or 24. Or 27. Edited February 16, 2017 by Tiger-Hearted 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 16 minutes ago, Tiger-Hearted said: When Benning talked about Jake never facing adversity, look no further than Alex Burrows. Burr was never drafted, played in the ECHL and played his first full season in the AHL with the Moose. He scored only 9 goals in 72 games and he was 23. A year later, Burr is playing in his NHL rookie season. By the time he was 27, he was ready to take that next step as Coach AV put him on the Sedin line. The rest is history and whether Burrows finishes his career as a Canuck or not, #14 will one day be in the ROH. Let's see how Jake does by the time he's 23. Or 24. Or 27. He won't be taking up a contract if he doesn't figure it out by 27. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Fingers Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 7 hours ago, funkyfresh said: From what I've seen, his shot selection is poor. Reminds me of Samuelsson, taking all those shots from the far wings. Not really shooting from dangerous areas so easy for goalie to stop. Samuelson was able to be a fairly productive player. I really want to see Jake with some creative linemates. Part of what I believe is going on is that Jake is forcing shots thru that maybe he shouldn't. He does need to hit, but I am not worried about him being physical. We don't know what coaching he is getting, whether Green wants him to focus on his play without the puck, not putting himself out of position to make a hit... for example. It seems to be a complete tear down and rebuild kinda season for Jake. That's okay, provided that he turns he corner next year. EW 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 It will be interesting to see how the Virtanen story ends... Bearing in mind that we got both Granlund 23 and Baertchi 24 for small change, and after that they both seemed to have flourished. Still a few years to figure it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 (edited) 9 hours ago, manroth19 said: virt don't hit anymore (well nothing remotely close to last year) it's stupid I see the puck get dumped into the zone and I'm waiting to see virt come into the screen to flatten someone and nothing.... This is most alarming. I remember all the hate the Torres/Virtanen comparisons got last year but that was based upon if Virtanen ended up in a bottom six role atleast he'd still be a banger. Now if he is not even hitting how is he going to make an impact at the NHL level? Edited February 16, 2017 by Tre Mac 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantomex Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 4 hours ago, Tre Mac said: This is most alarming. I remember all the hate the Torres/Virtanen comparisons got last year but that was based upon if Virtanen ended up in a bottom six role atleast he'd still be a banger. Now if he is not even hitting how is he going to make an impact at the NHL level? Agreed. This is the alarming part. I was hoping he would go down and work on his positioning and using his size. He has all the tools to be an impact player, but it seems he will need more time to put it all together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stawns Posted February 16, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted February 16, 2017 all the hand wringing about a 20 year old in his first, real season of pro hockey is amusing 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Warhippy Posted February 16, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted February 16, 2017 20 hours ago, The 5th Line said: Okay I am clearly being ridiculed because of my unfavorable opinion of Jake and have been for close to 3 years now. No, you get ridiculed because you're a pud and all you ever contribute to this thread is wet sharts of opinions on Virtanen and defending yourself. From your first post to your last You wouldn't be ridiculed if you didn't leave yourself so open to it. 3 years of hating on a kid has GOT to be wearing thin. Literally cannot be bothered to say anything positive about him and are no doubt sitting with a cute party hat on stand by for the possible moment the team gives up on him thus validating your oh so noteworthy opinion. It's a scenario where instead of trying to defend yourself endlessly or degrading a prospect you could simply...just not post 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, Warhippy said: No, you get ridiculed because you're a pud and all you ever contribute to this thread is wet sharts of opinions on Virtanen and defending yourself. From your first post to your last You wouldn't be ridiculed if you didn't leave yourself so open to it. 3 years of hating on a kid has GOT to be wearing thin. Literally cannot be bothered to say anything positive about him and are no doubt sitting with a cute party hat on stand by for the possible moment the team gives up on him thus validating your oh so noteworthy opinion. It's a scenario where instead of trying to defend yourself endlessly or degrading a prospect you could simply...just not post Still won't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 1 minute ago, J.R. said: Still won't get it. I dunno, I am about to see myself out of the prospects section entirely. this will likely get me banned via my responses faster than a day in the trump thread would Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beary Sweet Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Great to see Jake get an apple last night against a tough Marlies team. didnt register any shots but if he starts to get those shots and aim them for the top corner, he will find himself on the scoresheet more often than not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gaudette Celly Posted February 16, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted February 16, 2017 I've suggested before that we should have a "Prospect Hate/Regret" thread, so that all the Ehlers, Nylander, Konecny, and Tkachuk envyers can remorse and wring hands, sobbing together while holding each other ever so tenderly in private. The pollution in these threads makes them near-unbearable. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 21 hours ago, Ossi Vaananen said: Pronman throwing some shade: He's not wrong though. I want to see how Jake's second season in the AHL will be like offensively. If he's producing at this current rate next season, then there is cause for concern for sure. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger-Hearted Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 (edited) As a longtime and passionate Canucks fan who takes a great deal of interest in our prospect pool, I strongly recommend listening to Benning and more importantly, Coach Green whenever they're being interviewed. They see the pro prospects on a regular basis. It's easy to base our opinions from the Vancouver sports media. However, the best and most insightful info comes from those who personally know and deal with these young men. When I hear Coach Green being pleased with Jake's attitude, that's progress right there. Edited February 16, 2017 by Tiger-Hearted 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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