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4 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

See you're completely missing it and intentionally tryjng to find an argument when thete really isn't one 

 

We

Missed

On

This

Pick

 

Move on.  We missed on the Jagr pick too.  We missed on NUMEROUS picks in our 4 decades in this league.  

 

You continue to "respond to delusional posts" because you won't or can't let it go.  That's on you not the rest of us.

 

Lost on you though is all the rest of our prospects that are making strides.  While you sit and continue to rehash the past we're moving on.

 

Continue trying to find or formulate an argument here.  But you're not getting one no matter what kinda bait you dangle.

 

Just pity...and lots of it

Jake's been making good progress, I'm expecting him to explode offensively next season. It seems like his weight down to 216 has caused him to become a much more effective player on the ice. who woulda guessed ;P 

 

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Just now, N4ZZY said:

Jake's been making good progress, I'm expecting him to explode offensively next season. It seems like his weight down to 216 has caused him to become a much more effective player on the ice. who woulda guessed ;P 

 

I don't expect anything from Jake except he plays the game.  I reserve no judgement until I see how he shows up for the pre season 

 

He's got all the tools it's up to him now.  He's got my support but I see him as a solid 3rd liner right now unless he shows us otherwise 

 

I don't even consider that bad TBH because every nhl player we draft; no matter the spot is a win in my books

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13 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

I don't expect anything from Jake except he plays the game.  I reserve no judgement until I see how he shows up for the pre season 

 

He's got all the tools it's up to him now.  He's got my support but I see him as a solid 3rd liner right now unless he shows us otherwise 

 

I don't even consider that bad TBH because every nhl player we draft; no matter the spot is a win in my books

i think there's this allusion that every player that the canucks draft should be a top six player. lol. 

 

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1 hour ago, guntrix said:

Again with the over-sentimental posts. Discussing a total draft whiff (yes, let's call it for what it is) is totally relevant on a hockey forum, your love life connection speaks more about yourself than any other poster. What's sad is the endless complaints directed at these kinds of posts. Don't like something, offer a counter argument or ignore. It's that simple. It's time to stop acting like you own this forum. If posters feel the need to express discontent, they're perfectly entitled to do so. 

Well to start fairly sure Warhippy is married sooo, yah.

 

Second, there is nothing wrong with stating that it would have been better for the canucks had they taken X, Y or Z player, but at a point, get over it, move on. The horse is dead, beaten, stabbed, flayed, flambayed, disintegrated, reanimated and killed all over again. MOVE ON FFS! Get a new hobby, go outside, meet someone, fall madly in love and fade away into the sunset but just shut up about what could have been.

 

Who did we draft? Virtanen!

Who is this thread about? VIRTanen!

Who should be be discussing? VIRTANen!

When do we want him? VIRTANEN! , I mean, when he is ready to contribute to the team in a meaningful manner.

 

Until such time as he makes the team or fades off into the sunset himself what purpose does moaning about the past do? Make you feel better for picking the right favor of booster juice today? Well slow clap to you my friend.

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10 minutes ago, N4ZZY said:

i think there's this allusion that every player that the canucks draft should be a top six player. lol. 

 

I wouldn't call our reaction an allusion based on hindsight, it is more like pure frustration from over a decade of poor drafting. When we haven't drafted and developed a top 6 player since Ryan Kesler, with nearly a decade and half of drafting, until this year with Bo Horvat, I think we have been kind of on edge when it comes to our ability to do so. Every time we miss a pick, it will hurt when you have such a long gap between those that actually do work out for you. The only reason why we are in this mess that we are in today is because we were unable to draft and develop players that could take over top line duties. The Virtanen pick was crucial to getting our "retool/rebuild/transition" on the right foot, but we stumbled. Thankfully, I think that is about to change with Horvat, Boeser and others that have been acquired and those yet to be picked. 

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We gotta be patient with Virtanen. He's got all the tools, just not the toolbox. 
Benning and Linden seemed encouraged by his progress in Utica. One more season down there would do him good, but I wouldn't be surprised if he made the big club next season.

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6 minutes ago, kenhodgejr said:

Even if Jake has to play another season or half season in Utica thats not a bad thing. I can see Jake taking Eriksson's job. 

Could definitely see him taking over Louie's role here to disappoint and contribute about 20 pts

 

Jokes, I couldn't resist

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11 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

I don't think of it as marriage.

 

More like indentured servitude with full financial forfeiture in lieu occasional naked time and children.  Oh and Wednesday wings with the boys

Hey Pen / S-Land has some damn fine wing nights.

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2 hours ago, Warhippy said:

Whaaaa

 

We missed a pick.

 

Let's cry about it for the next 4 years.

 

You're perfectly entitled to continue doing so.  

 

It's time to stop acting like you're doing anything more than complaining about the situation or acting like a pouting child that got happy meal toy B instead of happy meal toy A 

 

We may have missed on Virtanen.  Nylander and Ehlers look like stars.  Great.

 

Move on with your life.  I say this having watched us pass on Jagr.  It's ok.  Mistakes might have been made.

 

Move on

 

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Understand I'm not saying we didn't miss on this pick.  But that's not gonna change a thing.  Nylander and Ehlers look awesome Jake at this point certainly doesn't.  That's not gonna change the pick.  Neither will endlessly complaining about it

 

This was the reason why they passed on Jagr.

 

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According to Craig Patrick, the former Penguins general manager who drafted Jagr 26 years ago, the Czech winger did his best to manipulate the draft so that he could end up in Pittsburgh playing alongside Mario Lemieux. As one of the top prospects in the 1990 class, Patrick said that the Penguins, who had the fifth overall pick, were surprised that Jagr was available when it was their turn to pick.

 

But, as it turns out, it may have come down to more than just luck.

 

“I found out years later that when he was interviewed by teams ahead of us, he told them all that he wasn’t coming over [to the NHL] right away,” Patrick recently told reporters at a Penguins alumni golf outing. “When we asked him that question, he said ‘I’ll be there tomorrow if you draft me.’ I think other teams backed off because of that. We were happy he was there. We were surprised he was there, definitely.”

 

Jagr was reportedly willing to make more of a commitment to the Penguins than the four teams that picked before them — the Nordiques, Canucks, Red Wings and Flyers — because he “idolized” Lemieux.

 

Jagr has always seemingly been a guy who marches to the beat of his own drum, and apparently that started at a very young age. Most young kids just let the process play out and relish the opportunity to play professional hockey, regardless of what sweater they end up wearing.

 

You can call it manipulation or call it unfair, but it worked…and it worked well. Jagr not only got to join the Penguins and play with Mario, but they won back-to-back Stanley Cups together in 1991 and 1992.

http://www.foxsports.com/nhl/story/how-jaromir-jagr-may-have-manipulated-the-1990-nhl-draft-in-his-favor-090116

 

 

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32 minutes ago, WeneedLumme said:

The posters like the one you are responding to who rant on endlessly about how much better other teams' players are, aren't actually complaining, they are gloating. Any excuse to hate on the Canucks is welcome to them.

You're probably right.  Maybe we should all just ignore them.  

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56 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

You're probably right.  Maybe we should all just ignore them.  

I mostly already do. I only see posts from the more blatant of the trolls like the one you responded to, when someone quotes them.

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2 hours ago, RetroCanuck said:

I wonder if the Canucks could/would loan Virtanen to a team in Europe? Might be really good for his development and maturity

Seems slightly extreme for this stage of his development. He's progressing much better than he was a yet ago now in Utica and looking to have his confidence back. After his ELC +1 contract runs out and he looks to be going no where Europe seems like a good option. Drew Shore can give him some pointers on that. 

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On 4/7/2017 at 5:25 PM, BCNate said:

Agreed.  He spent this year developing a strong 2 way game, next year will be focused on developing the offensive side of his game.  Virt, Boesser, Dahlen should bring a high level of skill to Utica next year.

If those three are playing on Utica next year, we are going to have to see a lot of Megna and his cronies...

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41 minutes ago, Hortankin said:

Why was his other thread closed? Did VC close it because he knows there's a trade happening? 

Got derailed again. I expect it will be re-opened relatively soon.

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On 4/7/2017 at 4:25 PM, BCNate said:

Agreed.  He spent this year developing a strong 2 way game, next year will be focused on developing the offensive side of his game.  Virt, Boesser, Dahlen should bring a high level of skill to Utica next year.

Boeser should be playing in Utica, but knowing management they'll use his hot streak to end this year as a PR move to motivate season ticket holders to buy. Hopefully they'll realize soon enough that he should be in Utica if they actually care about this 'winning environment' motto they hold so dear. We are not going to be able to provide that for at least two years.

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