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... in the AHL.

What I don't get is he looks like 2 completely different players.

There are plenty of highlight videos on youtube where he's playing for the Monarchs with Toffoli and Pearson and he looks like a really smart, cagey, shifty player.

I get that some guys just "can't make the jump" to the NHL, but it's not THAT much of a difference.

Megets the feeling that he's just one of those guys where if his confidence dips, he tanks... and possibly playing with 2 really really good players on a great team in Manchester - he never really had to deal with much adversity. (and as a scoring star in Junior life came easy there as well)

McCann has looked leaps and bounds better than him. How many times do we all have to repeat it: Bennin said he'd make room if guys were outplayed.

I don't care if he's "only 6' and 185lbs" and people think he needs to get "bigger"

Johnny Gaudreau is 5'9" and 150 lbs and had 64 points for the Flames last year, making guys look stupid doing it too.

Size schmize.

Vey will be needed for RW, middle 6 depth when we move Vrbata at the deadline.

Vey's 'problem' is that he far more suited to a middle 6, RW scoring role than a bottom 6 checking/centre role.

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Vey will be needed for RW, middle 6 depth when we move Vrbata at the deadline.

Vey's 'problem' is that he far more suited to a middle 6, RW scoring role than a bottom 6 checking/centre role.

Interesting that he's now listed as a right winger here: http://canucks.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8475223

I agree that being a RH shot throwing him onto the right wing might be a better role for him. He can't win a faceoff to save his life.

Having said that, it's not usually a good sign that you get moved out of your natural position because management thinks you can't cut it there.

He'll be given a chance and I agree its great to have depth but there are some young guys making a serious push here this year and if he gets outplayed the situation should be dealt with. [cough]

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I think it's very possible to have both McCann and Vey in the line up. Vey brings versatility, and doesn't deserve the amount of grief he gets on these boards. McCann just looks ready.

One more year might do him good though. And that's the case with all our prospects. This year might be rough, but we could be very good in a few years.

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He'll be given a chance and I agree its great to have depth but there are some young guys making a serious push here this year and if he gets outplayed the situation should be dealt with. [cough]

It will be. Just not likely as fast as your thinking or who you would prefer ;)

Spots will be made for the likes of McCann, Guance, Hutton etc but it's going to be guys like Higgins, Vrbata and Hamhuis who get traded and closer to the deadline and not Vey, Weber etc out of camp.

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I think it's very possible to have both McCann and Vey in the line up. Vey brings versatility, and doesn't deserve the amount of grief he gets on these boards. McCann just looks ready.

One more year might do him good though. And that's the case with all our prospects. This year might be rough, but we could be very good in a few years.

Honestly dont see the point of having both though. What can Vey do that McCann cant? Sure Vey is a good fill in guy, but even then would rather insert Kenins or Gaunce.

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Honestly dont see the point of having both though. What can Vey do that McCann cant? Sure Vey is a good fill in guy, but even then would rather insert Kenins or Gaunce.

Kenins and Gaunce can pass through waivers. Vey can not.

Vey has shown he can play at this level for something approaching an 82 game schedule. McCann has not.

Vey is existing, free depth. He's not likely going anywhere anytime soon.

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Kenins and Gaunce can pass through waivers. Vey can not.

Vey has shown he can play at this level for something approaching an 82 game schedule. McCann has not.

Vey is existing, free depth. He's not likely going anywhere anytime soon.

I think most are just excited about McCann's potential. The most he will get is 9 games and then back to juniors.
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I think most are just excited about McCann's potential. The most he will get is 9 games and then back to juniors.

That's probably what happens. Especially after Higgins gets healthy. There simply isn't enough roster spots.

I'm excited about his potential as well. It was only a few weeks ago I was being laughed at for stating that he and Horvat could be our future #1/#2 C's. I bet there's less laughing now... ;)

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That's probably what happens. Especially after Higgins gets healthy. There simply isn't enough roster spots.

I'm excited about his potential as well. It was only a few weeks ago I was being laughed at for stating that he and Horvat could be our future #1/#2 C's. I bet there's less laughing now... ;)

Yes.

And it is very interesting that in todays game he will suddenly line up at LW, logically in a role Higgins might fill.

They could use it as a chance to give him some NHL games because he is near ready; then prioritize his development.

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Honestly dont see the point of having both though. What can Vey do that McCann cant? Sure Vey is a good fill in guy, but even then would rather insert Kenins or Gaunce.

We have only 4 legit NHL centres on the roster. Hank, Bo, Sutter & cough Vey.

I think its almost a surety that McCann or Gaunce will be at least hanging around. In most games teams go with 5 even 6 pivots. So someone can take draws when a guy is in the box, gets kicked out of the circle, or just for a better matchup. ie size, or side of draw.

Then add to the conversation we may want a better option than Vey?

edit; worth further noting McCann & Gaunce are both lauded for their two way play. Vey is not. And this is somewhat of a core requirement of a 3rd or 4th line pivot.

FTR: I would not be the slightest bit surprised to see Vey as the 13th forward with Gaunce or McCann grabbing the actual role as 4th pivot. Or a true 4th line mucker / depth centre picked up on waivers, in a deal if McCann or Gaunce are deemed not ready. And Vey is still the 13th guy. Who slots in when another pivot, or scoring wing is injured or off their game.

Vey would then be the 13th guy until he proves he has upped his game.

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Yes.

And it is very interesting that in todays game he will suddenly line up at LW, logically in a role Higgins might fill.

They could use it as a chance to give him some NHL games because he is near ready; then prioritize his development.

Baer might need to look out as well. Jared's gunning for his spot the way he's been playing...

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We have only 4 legit NHL centres on the roster. Hank, Bo, Sutter & cough Vey.

I think its almost a surety that McCann or Gaunce will be at least hanging around. In most games teams go with 5 even 6 pivots. So someone can take draws when a guy is in the box, gets kicked out of the circle, or just for a better matchup. ie size, or side of draw.

Then add to the conversation we may want a better option than Vey?

I'd be interested to see a Guance, Vey, Dorsett/Prust 4th line. Guance and Vey could take turns taking draws on their strong sides...

McCann could work there as well in that scenario...

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Baer might need to look out as well. Jared's gunning for his spot the way he's been playing...

Fair conversation, completely!

But of course they are not going to put Baer on waivers. It will take a serious whipping of Baer by Jared for him to encourage the Nucks to trade or cut bait.

Vey is a much more likely casualty. And probably an un necessary conversation while there is an injured forward.

Next in line would be trading a Higgins or Hansen then as well? Hansen in particular has not been getting games. I don't think Baer would be the actual casualty is the only point.

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Fair conversation, completely!

But of course they are not going to put Baer on waivers. It will take a serious whipping of Baer by Jared for him to encourage the Nucks to trade or cut bait.

Vey is a much more likely casualty. And probably an un necessary conversation while there is an injured forward.

Next in line would be trading a Higgins or Hansen then as well? Hansen in particular has not been getting games. I don't think Baer would be the actual casualty is the only point.

I only meant Jared could steal the 2LW spot pushing Baer down to 3LW ;)

Higgins and Vrabata are both likely dealt at/near the deadline. Hansen's not going anywhere IMO.

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I only meant Jared could steal the 2LW spot pushing Baer down to 3LW ;)

Higgins and Vrabata are both likely dealt at/near the deadline. Hansen's not going anywhere IMO.

I do find it odd how Hansen has only played the Kraft Hockeyville game,

and not since... You would think he would be trying to get a couple games in before the season starts.

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I do find it odd how Hansen has only played the Kraft Hockeyville game,

and not since... You would think he would be trying to get a couple games in before the season starts.

Unless he's being shopped...

We do have an abundance of right wingers right now with Virtanen and Grenier pushing to make the team.

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I only meant Jared could steal the 2LW spot pushing Baer down to 3LW ;)

Higgins and Vrabata are both likely dealt at/near the deadline. Hansen's not going anywhere IMO.

Probably right.

And just pointing out that I entered the conversation agreeing that Higgins current injury possibly opened the door for a McCann to get in the 9 games suggested. And because its Higgins hurt, voila suddenly McCann is playing LW.

I do remain of the opinion two of; Gaunce Virtanen, Hutton and McCann will stick with the team. Virtanen being given the best chance. Gaunce almost a shoe in IMO, because of LW / pivot versatility, size & that he suits a 3rd line, 4th line role. Hutton perhaps has earned it most, but we don't have a top 4 spot ATM and he is better off developing in Utica. McCann & this 9 games the wildcard.

Actual long term injuries, or a trade, can always open the door for a 3rd or 4th of these guys to join the party.

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I do find it odd how Hansen has only played the Kraft Hockeyville game,

and not since... You would think he would be trying to get a couple games in before the season starts.

There's still 3 more games after tonight before the real season starts...

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