Alflives Posted January 2, 2016 Share Posted January 2, 2016 6 hours ago, messier's_elbow said: It is pretty well known Alf. I have never heard this mentioned anywhere, that I can recall. I heard Max Domi has diabetes, from commercials. I remember Bobby Clarke too lives with that illness. Even Gary Howet, from the 70s - 80s Islanders made public his epilepsy, which greatly helped me accept my brother's affliction with that illness. This disease Lucic lives with could really help all people become more accepting of those who look strange, especially children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stierlitz Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Vancouver Canucks @VanCanucks 20m20 minutes ago Despite missing morning skate, McCann is in tonight. #Canucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormriders Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 I really feel sorry for this guy, . . . well sort of, because he is afterall a 19 year old playing in and being paid as an NHL player. It's just that he could do so much more. I am ok with creating a plan and managing his games if he isn't physically able to deal with it all, and I will take management's word on this. But when he is playing, can he play with players that compliment his style and give him a chance to be successful? Playing on the fourth line with guys that aren't highly skilled, doesn't give him a fair chance to succeed and build confidence. He often doesn't get the puck enough to really do something with it, because with a player like him it is all about puck possession. I get it that Vey is Willy's boy, and frankly he is playing better this time around, but he is also getting the better opportunities. Let's give McCann some better opportunities. I would even rather see him on the wing and playing with skilled players because that is where he will shine. Not sure the 'plan' Willy has for McCann is helping him develop into the player we want and need. I know, patience, and I understand he has a bigger agenda that just McCann, but maybe a little more balance in giving opportunities would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Sheltering. Patience. Time. 19. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 40 minutes ago, Stormriders said: I really feel sorry for this guy, . . . well sort of, because he is afterall a 19 year old playing in and being paid as an NHL player. It's just that he could do so much more. I am ok with creating a plan and managing his games if he isn't physically able to deal with it all, and I will take management's word on this. But when he is playing, can he play with players that compliment his style and give him a chance to be successful? Playing on the fourth line with guys that aren't highly skilled, doesn't give him a fair chance to succeed and build confidence. He often doesn't get the puck enough to really do something with it, because with a player like him it is all about puck possession. I get it that Vey is Willy's boy, and frankly he is playing better this time around, but he is also getting the better opportunities. Let's give McCann some better opportunities. I would even rather see him on the wing and playing with skilled players because that is where he will shine. Not sure the 'plan' Willy has for McCann is helping him develop into the player we want and need. I know, patience, and I understand he has a bigger agenda that just McCann, but maybe a little more balance in giving opportunities would be nice. McCann has a lot of skill. But he is also good defensively. And he might need to play as 2-way center in the bottom 6 for much of his career. Getting experience in a defensively oriented role might be good experience. And it takes some of the pressure off hi. People will not be expecting him to score much (similar to the way Willie set things up for Bo last year). WD is regarded as one of the best developmental coaches in the game and I think he knows what he is doing. He has a tricky balancing act trying to bring along McCann. Bo, Baertschi, Etem, Virtanen, Hutton, while also trying to make the playoffs (or at least stay close enough to satisfy the owner). I am not sure there are many coaches who could handle the situation better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormriders Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 1 minute ago, JamesB said: McCann has a lot of skill. But he is also good defensively. And he might need to play as 2-way center in the bottom 6 for much of his career. Getting experience in a defensively oriented role might be good experience. And it takes some of the pressure off hi. People will not be expecting him to score much (similar to the way Willie set things up for Bo last year). WD is regarded as one of the best developmental coaches in the game and I think he knows what he is doing. He has a tricky balancing act trying to bring along McCann. Bo, Baertschi, Etem, Virtanen, Hutton, while also trying to make the playoffs (or at least stay close enough to satisfy the owner). I am not sure there are many coaches who could handle the situation better. Don't know that I have disagreed much more strongly to a statement made on here, but McCann, while I agree he is good defensively, is NOT and will not play a bottom 6 role for most of his career. Could I be wrong, of course, but I think he has the potential to be our #1 centre. He has all the tools, and the toolbox, and determination to win. And he has the chip on his shoulder and a little bit of grit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 On 1/1/2016 at 9:49 PM, Stormriders said: On 1/2/2016 at 6:33 PM, Qwags said: How do you know? Just listen to Willie's most recent video before tomorrow's game. It appears from listening and reading between the lines that he intends on sitting out players like McCann on a more regular basis, saying how hard it is for the young guys , and sometimes playing them every day isn't the best for their development. He said they were going to come up with a plan, and I think this is a set up so there will be fewer questions asked when we can comes out of the lineup. Certainly he has cooled off offensively, and with his known face-off issues, it wouldn't be unreasonable to see him rotated out. As much as I love watching him develop, and he has certainly done so in other areas, I agree that this might be a good thing right now. You could see this a mile away when Willie finally had Vey back on the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 It's going to be interesting when Sutter gets back with our center position, i think McCann is going to get lots of pine time. Willie is not going to break up the Vey-Etem pair. Sutter might play wing with the Sedin's tho as Hank looks to be injured and has a tough time on the dot. Going to be interesting to see the moves and line combo's when Sutter and Hansen start playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 McCann will share splinters with Virtanen, and we'll likely see Cracknell and Prust sit out on occasion as well. Etem and Baertschi less likely, as they're playing well and have more-developed games right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canorth Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 9 hours ago, ice orca said: You could see this a mile away when Willie finally had Vey back on the roster. Vey was waived. Something Willie had a great deal of influence on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 23 hours ago, JamesB said: McCann has a lot of skill. But he is also good defensively. And he might need to play as 2-way center in the bottom 6 for much of his career. Getting experience in a defensively oriented role might be good experience. And it takes some of the pressure off hi. People will not be expecting him to score much (similar to the way Willie set things up for Bo last year). WD is regarded as one of the best developmental coaches in the game and I think he knows what he is doing. He has a tricky balancing act trying to bring along McCann. Bo, Baertschi, Etem, Virtanen, Hutton, while also trying to make the playoffs (or at least stay close enough to satisfy the owner). I am not sure there are many coaches who could handle the situation better. 22 hours ago, Stormriders said: Don't know that I have disagreed much more strongly to a statement made on here, but McCann, while I agree he is good defensively, is NOT and will not play a bottom 6 role for most of his career. Could I be wrong, of course, but I think he has the potential to be our #1 centre. He has all the tools, and the toolbox, and determination to win. And he has the chip on his shoulder and a little bit of grit. I agree that McCann appears to have the potential to be a 1C. But that is far from a done deal. And for the next two years (after this year) he is very likely to be playing behind Henrik and Horvat. After that, who knows, but he will be much valuable to the Canucks if he can play effectively in the bottom 6 instead of being a "top six or bust" kind of guy. So it makes sense that Willie wants him to get experience in that role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesB Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 15 hours ago, ice orca said: It's going to be interesting when Sutter gets back with our center position, i think McCann is going to get lots of pine time. Willie is not going to break up the Vey-Etem pair. Sutter might play wing with the Sedin's tho as Hank looks to be injured and has a tough time on the dot. Going to be interesting to see the moves and line combo's when Sutter and Hansen start playing. I have the same view, and I wonder who will go when Sutter comes back. I agree that Willie is going to give the Vey-Etem combo a long look, and they have played well together so far. Barring additional injuries someone will have to be traded or sent down (or waived and picked up by another team). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble 6 Posted January 17, 2016 Share Posted January 17, 2016 Sedin - Sedin - Sutter Baertschi - Horvat - Hansen Burrows - Vey - Etem Gaunce - McCann - Dorsett Edler - Tanev Bartkowski - Biega Hutton - Sbisa In 2-3 years: Baertschi - Horvat - Virtanen Shinkaurik - McCann - Boeser Sedin - Sedin - Burrows Gaunce - Cassels - Sutter Edler - Tanev Hutton - Draft Tryamkin - Subban We are in great shape on forward, but we still need 2 good defenseman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 17 hours ago, Horvat is a Boss said: We are in great shape on forward, but we still need 2 good defenseman. Pedan and Olson/Juolevi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 On 16/01/2016 at 11:07 PM, Stormriders said: I really feel sorry for this guy, . . . well sort of, because he is afterall a 19 year old playing in and being paid as an NHL player. It's just that he could do so much more. I am ok with creating a plan and managing his games if he isn't physically able to deal with it all, and I will take management's word on this. But when he is playing, can he play with players that compliment his style and give him a chance to be successful? Playing on the fourth line with guys that aren't highly skilled, doesn't give him a fair chance to succeed and build confidence. He often doesn't get the puck enough to really do something with it, because with a player like him it is all about puck possession. I get it that Vey is Willy's boy, and frankly he is playing better this time around, but he is also getting the better opportunities. Let's give McCann some better opportunities. I would even rather see him on the wing and playing with skilled players because that is where he will shine. Not sure the 'plan' Willy has for McCann is helping him develop into the player we want and need. I know, patience, and I understand he has a bigger agenda that just McCann, but maybe a little more balance in giving opportunities would be nice. Canner is getting the same treatment as Bo, start from the bottom and earn your way up. Learn responsibility and the rest will follow. I think WD is playing this great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeneedLumme Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Yeah, playing on the fourth line last year doesn't seem to have damaged Bo's development. Considering that McCann is a similar highly motivated 2-way centre, I don't see how it's going to hurt his development either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 18 minutes ago, WeneedLumme said: Yeah, playing on the fourth line last year doesn't seem to have damaged Bo's development. Considering that McCann is a similar highly motivated 2-way centre, I don't see how it's going to hurt his development either. I Bolieve () playing on the fourth line, with players who clearly lack elite skill, did retard Bo's development - on the offensive side of the game. The same goes for McCann. Playing with these dump, chase, and pound guys inhibits what the young skilled guys can do. Thus, they don't improve their offense skills, while playing with plumbers. They need to be with guys who have elite skill, and who play offense too. IMHAO WD is not doing the kids any favours playing them with guys who have zero skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 58 minutes ago, Alflives said: I Bolieve () playing on the fourth line, with players who clearly lack elite skill, did retard Bo's development - on the offensive side of the game. The same goes for McCann. Playing with these dump, chase, and pound guys inhibits what the young skilled guys can do. Thus, they don't improve their offense skills, while playing with plumbers. They need to be with guys who have elite skill, and who play offense too. IMHAO WD is not doing the kids any favours playing them with guys who have zero skill. Drinking a bit early, aren't you Alf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stierlitz Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 From JB's interview today with Matt Sekeres and Blake Price: “Willie had those guys together for a couple of games on that last road trip. Playing with Daniel and Hansen, two experienced players.. we don’t have the luxury of doing that per se this year, but in Detroit with all of their good players they play Larkin with Zetterberg and Abdelkader. Those guys are good players and can help his game along. I see that with Danny Sedin and Hansen, they can help Jared.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigturk8 Posted January 19, 2016 Share Posted January 19, 2016 On 1/18/2016 at 9:18 AM, Alflives said: I Bolieve () playing on the fourth line, with players who clearly lack elite skill, did retard Bo's development - on the offensive side of the game. The same goes for McCann. Playing with these dump, chase, and pound guys inhibits what the young skilled guys can do. Thus, they don't improve their offense skills, while playing with plumbers. They need to be with guys who have elite skill, and who play offense too. IMHAO WD is not doing the kids any favours playing them with guys who have zero skill. If anything, I only see it as a pause in their offensive development. I don't imagine they will un-learn any offensive skill, but by starting on the 4th line, they are learning other essential skills to remain in the NHL. 4th liners may not have the most talent on the team, but they need to work hard every night and be sound defensively to stay in the NHL. By giving the young talent a stint there, it forces them to make those attributes part of their game. Once they have that, they can move up and focus on advancing offense. It should make them more complete players which is always a bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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