canucklehead44 Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 We would have to sign him to an entry level contract with would be under 1 million per year. I am not exactly sure what your point about his KHL contract is but if he is making 1.3 million in the KHL it is tax free. Essentially the difference would by having 1.3 million (KHL) vs 565,000 (NHL). A previous poster asked what his KHL salary is. KHL salaries aren't posted, but I found a list of the top 90. The bottom of the list was 1.3 million and he wasn't on it. He could get paid $925,000, plus a $92,000 signing bonus plus a performance bonus for ice time (up to $212,000 if he is top 4 in ice time) and blocked shots (not sure what the amount is). While they play tax free there is a huge difference in the quality of life between an NHLer and a player in the KHL. They stay in crappy hotel rooms, buy their own soap etc. NHL players are treated like royalty. This isn't the case of a marginal second line player only worth paying 1 million in the NHL while he can make 3 million in the KHL. From the looks of the way contracts are the KHL dishes out money for points, whereas the NHL pays higher for defensive players. I don't think this is a case we will have a hard time retaining Tryamkin down the road unless he becomes a 40+ point player. As a 10-20 point, 4/5th defenseman I think we would make more in the nhl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Every prospect the Canucks draft is a steal to you people go look back at my post history... Not to brag but I'm rarely wrong but you can categorize me with the sheep if you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanTSN Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 (edited) I guess Claude Giroux wasn't referring to me. I'm interested in this big Russian kids' upside. But he's been passed over completely in drafts before. So smokescreen? Edited July 21, 2014 by BanTSN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I guess Claude Giroux wasn't referring to me. I'm interested in this big Russian kids' upside. But he's been passed over completely in drafts before. So smokescreen? The fact that he's 19 going on 20 and seems to be committed to the KHL for the next 2 years obviously scared some teams away. For a team that's willing to be patient though, he could have huge upside. The Canucks can afford to be patient with him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 The fact that he's 19 going on 20 and seems to be committed to the KHL for the next 2 years obviously scared some teams away. For a team that's willing to be patient though, he could have huge upside. The Canucks can afford to be patient with him.Never heard any contract detail like an option to leave for NA. 2 years is a great development time line.I prefer the AHL over the KHL. One has to wonder how truly professional the KHL is. Russia is prettycorrupt and dangerous. He is young enough for the WJ this year. Hopefully he travels back with TeamCanada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avelanch Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Never heard any contract detail like an option to leave for NA. 2 years is a great development time line.I prefer the AHL over the KHL. One has to wonder how truly professional the KHL is. Russia is pretty corrupt and dangerous. He is young enough for the WJ this year. Hopefully he travels back with Team Canada. he is NOT young enough for the 2015 WJC.... 19 right now, turns 20 in august. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklehead44 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 (edited) Never heard any contract detail like an option to leave for NA. 2 years is a great development time line.I prefer the AHL over the KHL. One has to wonder how truly professional the KHL is. Russia is prettycorrupt and dangerous. He is young enough for the WJ this year. Hopefully he travels back with TeamCanada.While the AHL might be ideal, he is probably making at least $300K in the KHL, tax free vs $60k in the AHL. Edited July 22, 2014 by canucklehead44 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter Soldier Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Never heard any contract detail like an option to leave for NA. 2 years is a great development time line.I prefer the AHL over the KHL. One has to wonder how truly professional the KHL is. Russia is pretty corrupt and dangerous. He is young enough for the WJ this year. Hopefully he travels back with Team Canada. What a bastion of tolerance and understanding you are. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 The fact that he's 19 going on 20 and seems to be committed to the KHL for the next 2 years obviously scared some teams away. For a team that's willing to be patient though, he could have huge upside. The Canucks can afford to be patient with him. Maybe it was the "Russian" factor that scared teams away? I personally doubt it was any two year KHL time line. How many D men get drafted and make an NHL impact within two years? Two years wait if anything is fast track IMO. In any case, yes, that patience in drafting with Tryamkin and otherwise is sage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gyllenhaal Posted July 25, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2014 Tryamkin interview (translated) http://thehockeywriters.com/interview-with-canucks-prospect-nikita-tryamkin/?utm_content=buffer3320e&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer - When did you know that they wanted to see you at the NHL draft and how did you prepare for it? - I didn’t prepare much specifically for the draft, I just went to America to practice. Of course I was thinking to the draft too, but I was mainly working to get on shape for next season. I went there and I had some interviews with a number of teams. And then the draft, I got picked, it was good. I knew that nine teams were interested in me. - Did you prefer any of those teams? - Considering my age, the most important thing to me was just to get drafted. I was happy to be drafted by Vancouver, and time will tell how things will turn up. - After the first two draft were scared not to get drafted? - After two rounds I started feeling some panic, I was scared they wouldn’t draft me and I should simply get back home. I didn’t count on the first round, they draft younger guys there. But then started the third round, the 66th pick were the Canucks, 68th – Tampa Bay, and the 70th – the Rangers. I knew that some of these teams were going to draft me. - How did you like the draft ceremony? - It’s a true hockey party, twenty thousand people go to the arena just to see these guys, who are still unknown. They get to you, they ask your name, where do you play, and ask for autographs. - Do you know English language well? - I don’t get lost, but I still don’t understand too much. I can say some simple phrases. I was lucky that at the Canucks camp the guys warmly welcomed me, they helped a lot and explained what they wanted with gestures. - How was the training camp? - I was there for 8 days. We did some cross country, went at the river, had some tests. They also explained us how to practice in the gym, how to eat. Then in Vancouver they tried to give us something from the team’s spirit. They split us in five teams, we cooked together, we prepared a buffet, then they got us in a competition where we had to climb up to 2000 meters. - What did impress you the most? - You can go to Vancouver’s head coach and tell him “Hi, my name’s Nikita and I want to play for your team” and start talking about life. Or you can simply go to the guys and say “I’m like this, let’s be friends.” At home [in Russia] it’s not like that, it’s a bit different. I discovered many new things in those eight days. - How do you prepare for the NHL now? Are you studying English language? - You need to know English language anyway, not only to play in the NHL. Of course I think about playing there, but I still have two years of contract with Avtomobilist. I don’t look thus far yet. I even told the Canucks’ GM that I can’t promise him that I’ll become a world champion. I could become a national team level player in one season, or I can also become an average player. Of course, I’ll work hard on myself, but I need also to judge things fairly. More concretly, we can talk more about this in a couple of years. - Did you manage to rest this summer? - I’ll get to rest once I’m on a pension. (Laughs.) I don’t regret I spent that time in the USA, it gave me a lot. - Do you read what fans write about you on the internet? - No, I do not and I think it’s not necessary. I care about the games’ results, who scored. I don’t read comments. - Do you talk with your fans? - Of course, when they approach you after the game, you can’t say them “I can’t.” Photos, autographs, those things are really important to them, as well as playing in front of a full crowd is important to us. It was good that last year every game was sold out. It’s great when they announce your name on the first line and the crowd is very loud. But when there are a lot of defeats, true fans still keep on supporting the team. - Sometimes they criticize you for not needed penalties and emotional play. Are you working on this? - In North America they told me to be even angrier, to play very hard. I explained them that I prefer playing more safely, rather than fly around and look stupid. If there is a good moment when I can meet an opponent playing hard, I’ll do it, but I do not want just to fly around and do a bad play. After all if you just want to impress and as a result have a bad play and hurt the team, it means more time on the bench, and less ice time. Of course there are always a lot of emotions, especially in the final minutes of close games, but you need to hold on. - Was it hard to you to pass from junior to senior hockey? - During my first season in the MHL, they called me to skate with the senior team during the pre-season, and the year after I was already playing for Avtomobilist in the fourth line, I was happy and felt my progress. But when the season actually started, I spent the first six games on the stands. I’ve never been scratched, it was hard, I wanted to play. So I asked them to get back to the junior team, and they sent me there. I played 16 games and scored 13 points, so they called me and said “Today you’re not going to play. You’ll play tomorrow, for the senior team.” In 10 games my ice time rose from 4 minutes to 27 minutes. I must thank my coach Igor Ulanov for the trust. I think that young players need to play to gain confidence. Parts I found interesting - "You can go to Vancouver’s head coach and tell him “Hi, my name’s Nikita and I want to play for your team” and start talking about life ... At home [in Russia] it’s not like that, it’s a bit different." Seems like he was surprised by how friendly and personal people were, in Russia it must be strictly professional relationships. - "In 10 games my ice time rose from 4 minutes to 27 minutes." I think this is a typo, I read somewhere he averaged 17 minutes in the KHL. - "You need to know English language anyway, not only to play in the NHL" Sounds like he is committed to learning English. - "In North America they told me to be even angrier, to play very hard. I explained them that I prefer playing more safely, rather than fly around and look stupid." I think he'll be able to play more aggressive on the smaller NA ice since he has good mobility for his size, which is probably why they want him to play more mean in the KHL. Overall he seems like a smart kid, knows what type of player he is and is more focused on the KHL right now then coming to NA. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Good find +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derp... Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Thanks for the article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownky Posted July 25, 2014 Share Posted July 25, 2014 Good article, thanks. Sounds like he's one of those super-steady defenders who never "shine", but always for the right reasons. If you're never out of position, you never show up out of position. And that he's loyal to the team he's signed to; he's not looking to bolt - he signed a contract, and is honoring it. Bodes well if the same mentality applies should he come over. I think he is the real steal of the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wshdrvvn Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 I like that he seems focused on getting better. I think he'll use his time wisely in the KHL and be ready to make some noise when his time comes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 I think a great type of replacement for the old Edler type physicalityin 2 years...maybe Edler has injuries or what but we need someone back there that can cause disruption on those attacking forwards. Love finding these under the radar gems, two thumbs up JB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.53 Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 So i'm curious. It seems like he knows very little to no English. I assume he is going to at least try and work on that the next two years, but say he doesn't and he struggles with it still and needs a translator like he does now. Does that mean we pretty much send him back, or do we deal with it? I would imagine a coach would not be too happy with constantly having a translator to communicate with his players on and off the ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyllenhaal Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 ^ He already said he will try to learn English. Besides I'm sure he already knows most of the hockey terms in English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.53 Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 ^ He already said he will try to learn English. Besides I'm sure he already knows most of the hockey terms in English. Yeah I know but I'm just saying hypothetically, let's say he doesn't. Maybe he struggles or whatever. If he wasn't to know english sufficiently, what do we do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter Soldier Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Yeah I know but I'm just saying hypothetically, let's say he doesn't. Maybe he struggles or whatever. If he wasn't to know english sufficiently, what do we do? Hire a tutor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Ever listen to Hlinka and Bubla when they came here? "Shoot puck, get check." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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