Baggins Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 10 hours ago, Stelar said: I love the part where his agent said the Canucks should start stating that they want him back. Seriously, how insecure is this guy.... I don't think it's insecurity as much as it's ego and a sense of entitlement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stelar Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Baggins said: I don't think it's insecurity as much as it's ego and a sense of entitlement. Either way it’s a bad look. I would love him to come back as I think he could be a good player with time but his attitude to date is a bit of a red flag. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, Stelar said: Either way it’s a bad look. I would love him to come back as I think he could be a good player with time but his attitude to date is a bit of a red flag. I agree. A player needs to show he's the better choice. His season here Stecher was better offensively and Tanev was better defensively. That made him the other guy. I love his size and he's pretty mobile despite it. But I didn't like the sense of entitlement he seems to have. I was disappointed he refused the conditioning stint in Utica. It was the equivalent to a road trip and could have got him into the line up quicker. If he does return he better show up in shape and ready or those red (Russian) flags will be up and flapping again for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeneedLumme Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 36 minutes ago, Baggins said: I agree. A player needs to show he's the better choice. His season here Stecher was better offensively and Tanev was better defensively. That made him the other guy. I love his size and he's pretty mobile despite it. But I didn't like the sense of entitlement he seems to have. I was disappointed he refused the conditioning stint in Utica. It was the equivalent to a road trip and could have got him into the line up quicker. If he does return he better show up in shape and ready or those red (Russian) flags will be up and flapping again for me. I suspect that if you negotiated a contract which gave you certain rights, you would feel entitled to receive those rights. But perhaps I am just projecting. I guess not everybody feels the way I do, that it is important that parties to a contract honour that contract. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeneedLumme Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Baggins said: I don't think it's insecurity as much as it's ego and a sense of entitlement. You do realize that the agent is expressing the agent's feelings, not Tram's, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, WeneedLumme said: I suspect that if you negotiated a contract which gave you certain rights, you would feel entitled to receive those rights. But perhaps I am just projecting. I guess not everybody feels the way I do, that it is important that parties to a contract honour that contract. Tryamkin should have started the season in Utica instead of Stecher. Stecher actually earned the spot but Tryamkins AHL clause prevented him being sent. That was honouring his clause and Stecher paid the price. They later asked him later to go on a conditioning stint, the equivalent to a road trip, that would have sped up his getting into the line up. If he really wanted to play he would have left his ego at the door and done what was needed. (see I can bold stuff too ) You don't know me. I wouldn't care about that clause when it came to a conditioning stint and would have done what it takes to get in the line up. Of course I would have shown up in shape and ready to play in the first place. But that's me. I was always prepared for the start of a season and didn't have million$ of reason to do it. That aside, the reason I called him self entitled was because of his unhappiness about his ice time as opposed to actually earning it by being the better option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 19 minutes ago, WeneedLumme said: You do realize that the agent is expressing the agent's feelings, not Tram's, right? Seems to me there was a quote from Try there about top ice time. You know, what he thought he deserved here without actually earning it. I also "suspect" his agent is fully aware of what his client wants. Oh those Russians.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 10 hours ago, Stelar said: Sorry man, a kid who is confident comes over and earns his ice time and spot on the team. This kid needs all kinds of assurances before he comes. Doesn’t sound too confident to me. That's what coaching and team management is all about. Some players are confident, some are arrogant and some need to be coddled. It's up to the coach to figure out how to get the most out of each player. I am not going to fault someone that can't even speak the native tongue on the other side of the planet if he feels he's not welcomed or appreciated. All I know is Tryamkin could definitely help this team and the sooner the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 17 minutes ago, Tre Mac said: That's what coaching and team management is all about. Some players are confident, some are arrogant and some need to be coddled. It's up to the coach to figure out how to get the most out of each player. I am not going to fault someone that can't even speak the native tongue on the other side of the planet if he feels he's not welcomed or appreciated. All I know is Tryamkin could definitely help this team and the sooner the better. Does anyone think Green is going to gift Nik ice time? What's going to happen if he returns, isn't the best dman and gets about the same mins as he did when he left? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stelar Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 1 hour ago, WeneedLumme said: You do realize that the agent is expressing the agent's feelings, not Tram's, right? You do realize that the agent speaks for the player right 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 (edited) So I'm trying to find a video on Tryamking to prove to my Bruin fan father that we have a faster, better version of Chara. All I can find are clips of his weak, but crushing hits and a few Softish goals (nothing that shows how great he really is).. where's his defensive highlights? His end to end rushes. This guy is more than a big bruiser lol. Anyone know of a video I may be looking for? Edited June 15, 2018 by Brock Botanen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 2 hours ago, stawns said: Does anyone think Green is going to gift Nik ice time? What's going to happen if he returns, isn't the best dman and gets about the same mins as he did when he left? Tryamkin IS our best d prospest. Love Juolevi, but id take Tryamking over him any day of the week if i knew he would stay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Baggins Posted June 15, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 15, 2018 43 minutes ago, Brock Botanen said: So I'm trying to find a video on Tryamking to prove to my Bruin fan father that we have a faster, better version of Chara. All I can find are clips of his weak, but crushing hits and a few Softish goals (nothing that shows how great he really is).. where's his defensive highlights? His end to end rushes. This guy is more than a big bruiser lol. Anyone know of a video I may be looking for? I don't think there are videos available of wild dreams. You won't find any highlights of his time here that proves he's a better version of Chara. His 11 points in 79 NHL games is a far cry from Chara's six 40 pt and three 50 pt seasons. Chara (over 40) scored more than twice as many goals and 24 pts in 73 games this past season. Tryamkin hasn't proven himself a better version of 41 year old Chara. Chara came over to play in the WHL. He put in time in the AHL. He didn't complain about starting bottom pair in the NHL. Some guys are willing to do what's needed and work for what they get. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 i'm looking forward to tryamkin being this generation's kirill koltsov. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rekker Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Brock Botanen said: So I'm trying to find a video on Tryamking to prove to my Bruin fan father that we have a faster, better version of Chara. All I can find are clips of his weak, but crushing hits and a few Softish goals (nothing that shows how great he really is).. where's his defensive highlights? His end to end rushes. This guy is more than a big bruiser lol. Anyone know of a video I may be looking for? It's there if Try wants it to be. Chara is legendary for his workouts and dedication. Remains to be seen if Try has that. Lol. Need to see if Try has Try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigturk8 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Brock Botanen said: So I'm trying to find a video on Tryamking to prove to my Bruin fan father that we have a faster, better version of Chara. All I can find are clips of his weak, but crushing hits and a few Softish goals (nothing that shows how great he really is).. where's his defensive highlights? His end to end rushes. This guy is more than a big bruiser lol. Anyone know of a video I may be looking for? Tryamkin has the potential to be what you've described. He's not there yet, so you won't be able to find clips supporting it, but what he did at his age was very promising. Hopefully he comes back and reaches those expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Tryamkin. This generations Bure Goggles. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 6 hours ago, WeneedLumme said: I suspect that if you negotiated a contract which gave you certain rights, you would feel entitled to receive those rights. But perhaps I am just projecting. I guess not everybody feels the way I do, that it is important that parties to a contract honour that contract. Totally agree on that part, however.... somewhere along the lines something has gone a miss... The club wasn't penalising him, but trying to make him better. I was mad, when he left the club, extremely disappointed in him, but think the club could have done a few things better.... the communication between management and Tryamkin seemed odd at best, and I do blame the Willie and the assistant coaches for that. And maybe management too? But I also think everyone at the club has learned from this, or I hope they have. I would be disappointing if we get a similar situation again down the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook007 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 (edited) Bring him back... pronto... Edited June 15, 2018 by spook007 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 3 hours ago, Baggins said: I don't think there are videos available of wild dreams. You won't find any highlights of his time here that proves he's a better version of Chara. His 11 points in 79 NHL games is a far cry from Chara's six 40 pt and three 50 pt seasons. Chara (over 40) scored more than twice as many goals and 24 pts in 73 games this past season. Tryamkin hasn't proven himself a better version of 41 year old Chara. Chara came over to play in the WHL. He put in time in the AHL. He didn't complain about starting bottom pair in the NHL. Some guys are willing to do what's needed and work for what they get. Doesn't have to have those points to see his potential. He is very fast for a big guy and I've seen him rush end to end multiple times that year and I was in AWE!.. All those 2 on 1s he broke up with ease.. he is very underestimated by many imho.. he has ELITE potential Chara didn't look that great in his early years, not even close imo. Chara was known for his size only and was traded twice before he became what he is today. No knock on Chara, he's a future HOF and rightfully so, I just believe Tryamkin has even more potential 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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