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29 minutes ago, SilentSam said:

 

(It won't let me quote your post for some reason so I'll just respond.)

 

I'll lay it out simply for you:

 

I want this team to win the cup first and foremost. Imo to do that we not only need talented players, but we also need these players to have strong character. The actions of Tryamkin in his full season here, and his decision to leave has caused me to question his character quite frankly. Just like a lot of people on these boards questioned Jake's when he was sent down to Utica. Jake however has displayed the type of character I like to see on this team by rallying and working his way back to the lineup, unlike Nikita.

 

Sounds like the kid 'broke my heart?'

Hardly lol, nice try though. If he went back to Russia because he's homesick, then I hope he's happy. And I wish him the best of luck. If he left because of ice time and those character issues, then we dodged a bullet AFAIC. So either way it's a win-win for me, no broken hearts over here ;)

 

 

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4 hours ago, Sweathog said:

(It won't let me quote your post for some reason so I'll just respond.)

 

I'll lay it out simply for you:

 

I want this team to win the cup first and foremost. Imo to do that we not only need talented players, but we also need these players to have strong character. The actions of Tryamkin in his full season here, and his decision to leave has caused me to question his character quite frankly. Just like a lot of people on these boards questioned Jake's when he was sent down to Utica. Jake however has displayed the type of character I like to see on this team by rallying and working his way back to the lineup, unlike Nikita.

 

Sounds like the kid 'broke my heart?'

Hardly lol, nice try though. If he went back to Russia because he's homesick, then I hope he's happy. And I wish him the best of luck. If he left because of ice time and those character issues, then we dodged a bullet AFAIC. So either way it's a win-win for me, no broken hearts over here ;)

 

 

The actions of Tryamkin in his full season here, and his decision to leave has caused me to question his character quite frankly”.

 

To quote you above,.   Do you not think that Benning realized the issues at hand and got to the root of where those issues came from?

I will leave you with your simple and almost cliche’ ick opinion of a player.. 

But your patronage of a “Coach can do no wrong” or have no influence over a player is laughable.

 

Obviously it did not go unseen by upper Management and possibly ownership.. especially When they did offer the player a new 2 year deal..  

and the back door to the Coach... Obviously Upper Management questioned the Character of the Coach,  and the Player.. they tried to keep the player because they wanted him,.  Not the Coach.

Kapeesh??

Now if that’s not “laying it out simply” for you,. I might suggest you put down your kaleidoscope.

 

Jake in his rookie year even questioned WD.. went to Utica.

...Not unlike Tryamkin in his rookie year, but in a new country, needed to regroup and take the step back to people and a team he trusted.

 

My opinion on all of this:

I truly believe that Benning wanted to get rid of Desjardins around the Christmas before the end of the season  that he was fired in.

 

Besides WD’s deployment issues, his favoritisim of some players and poor handling of others was clearly evident.

Benning saw this.. practically all of the CDC talked about it.

 

I truly believe that Linden protected Desjardins from that firing happening before the end of that Season.

The one we lost Tryamkin’s trust in.

The rest is history..  2 men got Fired.

and we still have a great looking prospect who might one day come back to this Team. :towel:

 

 

 

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While I would not mind some gargantuan freak D on this team like tryamkin, his mediocre skill level is not a make or break for this team.

 

If you think otherwise then......

 

.....well, I don't even know what to say.  Third pairing D are easy to find. Half decent second pairing D a bit harder. Not sure which he would be coming back to the NHL after wasting him time in the khl. Not working out properly, being out of shape again possibly.  But yeah...whatever lol.

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7 minutes ago, Lancaster said:

It's always hilarious to see the double standards applied here. 

 

Canadian player wants to return to his hometown, happier to be closer to family, willing to take a hometown discount = Good ol' Canadian kid.

Russian player wants to return to his hometown, happier to be closer to family, willing to take a hometown discount = Typical entitled, greedy Russian who can't cut it in the NHL.  

 

Well said.

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1 hour ago, Kanukfanatic said:

While I would not mind some gargantuan freak D on this team like tryamkin, his mediocre skill level is not a make or break for this team.

 

If you think otherwise then......

 

.....well, I don't even know what to say.  Third pairing D are easy to find. Half decent second pairing D a bit harder. Not sure which he would be coming back to the NHL after wasting him time in the khl. Not working out properly, being out of shape again possibly.  But yeah...whatever lol.

Your very talented to be able to find the ceiling of potential on a 22 yr old rookie in the NHL that played -maybe - 60 games, and may I add his first year on the smaller ice surface... perhaps your an expert?

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Warhippy said:

Mediocre?  He would arguably be one of the top 5 skaters on this team.  Has a ridiculous reach.  Players bounce off of him harder than they do Virtanen and while his skill set isn't where it should be yet, the guy played like 40 games or less and was one of the most dominant forces on the ice

 

But ya...whatever...lol?

Hahaha. Yeah ok. A top 5 skater on this team.

 

EP

Horvat

Boeser

Virtanen

Roussel

Motte

Edler

 

Seriously...tell me who he beats out as a skater.

 

Hahaha.....Come on.

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10 minutes ago, Kanukfanatic said:

Hahaha. Yeah ok. A top 5 skater on this team.

 

EP

Horvat

Boeser

Virtanen

Roussel

Motte

Edler

 

Seriously...tell me who he beats out as a skater.

 

Hahaha.....Come on.

You....really don't have a clue what you're talking about do you?

 

You think Boeser is a good skater....that's amusing.  He's awkward, like incredibly awkward.  

 

He's a better skater than anyone on that list not named Virtanen.  His size and skating ability and even his edge work put him in the top 5 on this team.  If you'd actually watched him play consistently you'd understand that

 

If you think otherwise then....

 

lol

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19 minutes ago, Kanukfanatic said:

Hahaha. Yeah ok. A top 5 skater on this team.

 

EP

Horvat

Boeser

Virtanen

Roussel

Motte

Edler

 

Seriously...tell me who he beats out as a skater.

 

Hahaha.....Come on.

You must have blinked..

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Kanukfanatic said:

Hahaha. Yeah ok. A top 5 skater on this team.

 

EP

Horvat

Boeser

Virtanen

Roussel

Motte

Edler

 

Seriously...tell me who he beats out as a skater.

 

Hahaha.....Come on.

 

Boeser is a great player but his skating is his downfall. He isn't a good skater. The rest I'd agree with, except I'd say he's on par with Edler. His size and mobility are pretty rare and combined with his reach, he can cover a ton of ice quickly.  

 

I don't understand why you take him leaving so personally. He was just looking out for his family and not trying hurt you.

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14 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

You....really don't have a clue what you're talking about do you?

 

You think Boeser is a good skater....that's amusing.  He's awkward, like incredibly awkward.  

 

He's a better skater than anyone on that list not named Virtanen.  His size and skating ability and even his edge work put him in the top 5 on this team.  If you'd actually watched him play consistently you'd understand that

 

If you think otherwise then....

 

lol

Sorry dude, but no way.   

Why are all you guys over hyping him?   

 

He was a good skater, for a huge guy.

Nothing magical by any means.  

 

I agree Boeser isn’t a great skater, but no way does he make top 5 best skater on our current team.    

 

For real though...

why all the over romanticizing?   

He is a decent skater, a strong but inaccurate shot that take a couple weeks to get off.   Fair passing, slow decision making. 

Didnt use his size close to as much as he should.   

 

Yes, he was young and promising, but let’s not forget he is wasting very important development years in a league that he was able to slack through and play out of shape.  

 

Would it be cool to have him back?  

Maybe.  Probably.  

 

Is it a big deal if he doesn’t?  

No.   He can suck an egg. 

 

 

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9 minutes ago, drummerboy said:

Sorry dude, but no way.   

Why are all you guys over hyping him?   

 

He was a good skater, for a huge guy.

Nothing magical by any means.  

 

I agree Boeser isn’t a great skater, but no way does he make top 5 best skater on our current team.    

 

For real though...

why all the over romanticizing?   

He is a decent skater, a strong but inaccurate shot that take a couple weeks to get off.   Fair passing, slow decision making. 

Didnt use his size close to as much as he should.   

 

Yes, he was young and promising, but let’s not forget he is wasting very important development years in a league that he was able to slack through and play out of shape.  

 

Would it be cool to have him back?  

Maybe.  Probably.  

 

Is it a big deal if he doesn’t?  

No.   He can suck an egg. 

 

 

 

Another expert stepping up..

 

 

 

 

 

 

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