Gator Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 So what's the odds of him playing for us next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 5 hours ago, Brock Botanen said: So what's the odds of him playing for us next year? 0.5%. He is under contract with the khl. Really is that simple but some posters here like to make up narratives and fantasize. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glug Datt Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 39 minutes ago, Kanukfanatic said: 0.5%. He is under contract with the khl. Really is that simple but some posters here like to make up narratives and fantasize. there's no transfer deal between nhl and khl like with other leagues, but he can buy out his contract if he wants to come back.. 2/3 of the remaining value.. not sure what his elc situation would look like, and therefore how much Van could pay him in bonuses to cover that cost for him, but it's possible 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfgang Durst Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 6 hours ago, Brock Botanen said: So what's the odds of him playing for us next year? Difficult, man ... difficult. Two questions need to be answered: 1. Does he really want to play in the NHL with the Canucks? 2. Does Jim want him back? If he really wants to play in the NHL it would be pretty easy for him to get out of his contract: he transfers a certain amount of money to the bank account of Avto and he is a free man. I don't know what amount he needs to pay, but it should be affordable. Jesse Blacker was with a German team had two years left on his contract, got an offer from Kunlun Red Stars (KHL team), bought himself out of his contract and moved to China. Not sure if Jim wants to bring him back. He would definitely improve the team defensively, no doubt about it. He would be a physical presence, would win puck battles would shut the door at the endboards, would lay hits on opponents. But from what I have in mind from his 1st stint with the Canucks he does not have a good first pass. Having a good first pass is absolutely crucial in Travis system. There is a good reason why they signed Teves: he joins the rush as a fourth attacker. Not sure if Tryamkin can do this in a similar way. Maybe Jim seeks to add a RHD in free agency and this specific player would fit better in Travis's system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 14 hours ago, Kanukfanatic said: Haha...great D man analysis if you think tryamkin would be a 2 on this team. Good god. Realize what team you have before you compare your thoughts with other teams... I have never mentioned a comparison to anyone’s other status but our own players and line up. Maybe read, before you heckle .. or maybe your the Comedy Act here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 (edited) Caught the 3rd period Salavat Yulaev goes up 3 games to 1 and needs one more win to knock Tryamkin out of the playoffs. Final score of this game 4-2 Salavat. Salavat, although below Avto in the standings seems to have the stronger ex-NHL'ers. Forwards with size, and strong on the fore check. Team defense is stifling the smaller forwards of Avto. Tryamkin double shifted in the 3rd. He was the only D man with the composure and size to deal with Salavats pressure. He kept the puck in the zone and put his shots on net. But Salavat is better coached, they seem like last years Vegas team. Forcing everything outside. and eliminating time and space. I think ex-Canuck Burmistrov led them in the face off circle. Tryamkin may have time for a few games here IF he buys out his last year with Avto, and if they get knocked out by this weekend. Game 5 Friday. Doesn't look good for Avto with no/little scoring help in a tight checking series. Their best player/captain Dawes has disappeared. Edited March 21, 2019 by Hairy Kneel 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 8 hours ago, SilentSam said: Realize what team you have before you compare your thoughts with other teams... I have never mentioned a comparison to anyone’s other status but our own players and line up. Maybe read, before you heckle .. or maybe your the Comedy Act here. Oh little sammy....I know the Canucks well. Both Edler and Tanev ARE FAR SUPERIOR to tryamkin in almost every way....except being big. Then both Hutton and Stecher's skills are at least as good if not better than trymakins. Take the homer goggles off and realize tryamkin would be a 4-5 D here. And that says something as our D is bad. Silly sam. Does not mean I would not mind trymakin back. But he is far from some kind of saviour that you seem to espouse. We need a big strong tough guy. If he fought he would be even more valuable. Don't let your 'goggles' skew your words sonny. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Kanukfanatic said: Oh little sammy....I know the Canucks well. Both Edler and Tanev ARE FAR SUPERIOR to tryamkin in almost every way....except being big. Then both Hutton and Stecher's skills are at least as good if not better than trymakins. Take the homer goggles off and realize tryamkin would be a 4-5 D here. And that says something as our D is bad. Silly sam. Does not mean I would not mind trymakin back. But he is far from some kind of saviour that you seem to espouse. We need a big strong tough guy. If he fought he would be even more valuable. Don't let your 'goggles' skew your words sonny. Easy there sweet cheeks.. your 2 fan faves are as brittle as candy glass. They,. Like Eriksson, are clearly paid too too much for the limited services they give.. The guard is changing.. Benning said the Defence will be adressed.. which means big changes .. unless you want to keep your 4 favorites you’ve mentioned smoochie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 5 hours ago, Kanukfanatic said: Oh little sammy....I know the Canucks well. Both Edler and Tanev ARE FAR SUPERIOR to tryamkin in almost every way....except being big. Then both Hutton and Stecher's skills are at least as good if not better than trymakins. Take the homer goggles off and realize tryamkin would be a 4-5 D here. And that says something as our D is bad. Silly sam. Does not mean I would not mind trymakin back. But he is far from some kind of saviour that you seem to espouse. We need a big strong tough guy. If he fought he would be even more valuable. Don't let your 'goggles' skew your words sonny. For posting such a condescending reply you should at least make true statements to back yourself up, or else you just sound like a jerk. Tryamkin is a better physical player then both Eagle and Tanev. He is a better fighter. He is a faster skater. He has a better poke check then Eddie, and a better shot then tanev. He is far superior are carrying the puck end to end then either player. I'm sure there is more, but that is not the point. While I agree that both players are far better players then Try, your comment is just plain false. If you are going to talk down to people, at least get some facts right. Sonny. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-P Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 I think the obsession with NT - which I admit sharing - is two pretty simple facts. 1) we lack physical players, NT will stand up when needed and is intimidating even though not overly aggressive 2) lack of D depth especially on the right side, I think most people realize that this team can only go so far with Hutton and Stecher as the second pairing. QH, NT, OJ and a free agent and then we’re on our way... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 20 hours ago, SilentSam said: Easy there sweet cheeks.. your 2 fan faves are as brittle as candy glass. They,. Like Eriksson, are clearly paid too too much for the limited services they give.. The guard is changing.. Benning said the Defence will be adressed.. which means big changes .. unless you want to keep your 4 favorites you’ve mentioned smoochie. Nothing you just typed has anything to do with you saying tryamkin is a better D man than Edler or Tanev. Only an uninformed troll would say that. Edler and Tanev are so clearly superior in every way to tryamkin as D men that it cannot be overstated (except for being tall....tryamkin is better at being tall). No one said both Edler and Tanev should stay on the Canucks. But you saying tryamkin is a better D than either of them is laughable. But keep trying to deflect there boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 (edited) 17 hours ago, shayster007 said: For posting such a condescending reply you should at least make true statements to back yourself up, or else you just sound like a jerk. Tryamkin is a better physical player then both Eagle and Tanev. He is a better fighter. He is a faster skater. He has a better poke check then Eddie, and a better shot then tanev. He is far superior are carrying the puck end to end then either player. I'm sure there is more, but that is not the point. While I agree that both players are far better players then Try, your comment is just plain false. If you are going to talk down to people, at least get some facts right. Sonny. Ok shyster. You say tryamkin is a better skater than Edler??? Haha good god. Keep your day job scout!! Edited March 22, 2019 by Kanukfanatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 12 minutes ago, Kanukfanatic said: Ok shyster. You say tryamkin is a better skater than Edler??? Haha good god. Keep your day job scout!! Hmmm, keeping my day job? Man the egg on your face if you knew what I did for a living.. I dig how I can straight up call you a jerk, and the only thing you can do it attempt to refute one point I made while still being a jerk. The point you refuted is even arguable at best, since I bet many would agree with me. Nice job saving face. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, shayster007 said: Hmmm, keeping my day job? Man the egg on your face if you knew what I did for a living.. I dig how I can straight up call you a jerk, and the only thing you can do it attempt to refute one point I made while still being a jerk. The point you refuted is even arguable at best, since I bet many would agree with me. Nice job saving face. Are you trolling? You think you know more than anyone else on here? You call people jerks cuz they think you are wrong? Grow up. Edit: anyway...back to tryamkin. If he comes back as a 3rd pairing guy thats ok. But if he doesn't no big deal....trade his rights for a 3rd. Edited March 22, 2019 by Kanukfanatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attila Umbrus Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Not to fan flames. But the big reason Try was drafted was not only his size but his unique skating ability that came with it. He is a very good skater for such a large man. Watching his KHL games shows it too. I still really hope he comes back, but I also don't think he will be back next year. He has to buy out his own contract and he hasn't really shown that he wants to. But has maintained the status quo of "we will see when my contract is up" when it comes to him coming back to the team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glug Datt Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 47 minutes ago, Attila Umbrus said: Not to fan flames. But the big reason Try was drafted was not only his size but his unique skating ability that came with it. He is a very good skater for such a large man. Watching his KHL games shows it too. I still really hope he comes back, but I also don't think he will be back next year. He has to buy out his own contract and he hasn't really shown that he wants to. But has maintained the status quo of "we will see when my contract is up" when it comes to him coming back to the team. I have no idea if he's intending or even able to buy it his contract, but I do worry if he doesn't come back next season, it might be too late. first of all, it's another year of unknown development in the K, which we can all speculate on , but nobody really knows how his developed game will translate to the NHL.. secondly, JB needs to make moves with some quality new core D this offseason, not only to progress the team but to save his back bacon.. there's a chance there won't be any desperate need for him like there is now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cup2022 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 On 3/20/2019 at 6:08 PM, Kanukfanatic said: Oh little sammy....I know the Canucks well. Both Edler and Tanev ARE FAR SUPERIOR to tryamkin in almost every way....except being big. Then both Hutton and Stecher's skills are at least as good if not better than trymakins. Take the homer goggles off and realize tryamkin would be a 4-5 D here. And that says something as our D is bad. Silly sam. Does not mean I would not mind trymakin back. But he is far from some kind of saviour that you seem to espouse. We need a big strong tough guy. If he fought he would be even more valuable. Don't let your 'goggles' skew your words sonny. At least he wouldn't miss 20+ games a year lol 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Glug Datt said: I have no idea if he's intending or even able to buy it his contract, but I do worry if he doesn't come back next season, it might be too late. first of all, it's another year of unknown development in the K, which we can all speculate on , but nobody really knows how his developed game will translate to the NHL.. secondly, JB needs to make moves with some quality new core D this offseason, not only to progress the team but to save his back bacon.. there's a chance there won't be any desperate need for him like there is now. He was a 1st all star team D man in the KHL He could lay across the ice and be better than 1/2 the Canuck Defensemen this year aka......MDZ, Guddy, Pouliot, Biega 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 (edited) People have a real road block when thinking of Tryamkin Strength (Clearing the front of the net, Board work, grabbing people by the face lifting and shaking) he would be better than all but Edler on that one Shot...…Other than Edler....where the competition? Intimidation...…..No one on the Canucks Skating...……….Hughes and Edler Passing...………Edler, Hughes, Skecher Positioning...…...well his wing span with his stick is about 12 ft...…..do the math on that one Hitting...…………….lololololol I don't get everyone that is trying to find reasons not to like him...………... If Radulov comes back and can score 60 points in this league, then it begs the question, why can't Tryamkin be as good? Again, he made the 1st all-star team What Canuck fans should be hoping is he comes back and kills it, like they do every other prospect Edited March 22, 2019 by janisahockeynut 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glug Datt Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 minute ago, janisahockeynut said: He was a 1st all star team D man in the KHL He could lay across the ice and be better than 1/2 the Canuck Defensemen this year aka......MDZ, Guddy, Pouliot, Biega not arguing any of that. however : 1. we have first hand experience with "allstar" KHL players who don't cut it here. 2. Biega is a perfect (and most likely perfectly happy) 7/8 D next year. Pouliot should be gone or further down the trough next year.. MDZ and Gud are already gone (just a heads up) All of which proves my point - which is that since JB may need to make a big splash to continue his tenure here and since he has already said that D will be addressed and since we have QH & OJ almost certainly moving up next year... I'm not sure there will be room for him. especially since he's been & gone once, and nobody really knows how it will go next time.. if there is a next time.. Who knows what JB will do on draft day or in the UFA realm to make that big splash.. for my part, I hope that NT coming back is part of it - I just gotta know what he's become in the last few years 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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