Popular Post canuckledraggin Posted July 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2019 6 hours ago, bree2 said: Tryamkin certainly did have entitlement issues. he didn't want to earn his minutes, he thought he would just get them. I liked him, but him leaving the way he did , showed his immaturity. if and when he does return, I would hope he has grown up enough to know everything you do in life has to be earned and not just handed to you. Actually he just looked at the tire fire of a defense that was constantly given heavy minutes ahead of him and wondered, why are all of these scrubs playing ahead of me? Have a look at the defense from 2016/17 and try to justify playing half of these guys ahead of a prospect with his potential. https://www.eliteprospects.com/team/77/vancouver-canucks/2016-2017 Stecher started coming into his own, but with the exception of Edler and Tanev, why would any one of those D-men deserve ice time ahead of Tryamkin? 1 1 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gurn Posted July 25, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2019 Because they showed up in shape? Because they did not continually ice the puck? 1 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyoung Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 I'll be honest tryamkin's first season wasn't great, and that's not Willie's fault. That doesn't mean I don't want him to return, he could still be a great 3rd pairing D man, I have a hard time seeing him taking on anything more than that as I don't think his skill set is as strong as 90% of the people on the board think. Coming to a new country was probably extremely tough for him, leaving family and friends to a place where he can't really even talk to anyone would suck. Especially at his age at the time. People calling him immature.....he was 22 years old when he left, of course he was immature. Lol it would be cool if he came back over but im not gonna hold my breath or worry too much about a guy who will likely just play bottom pairing minutes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, cyoung said: I'll be honest tryamkin's first season wasn't great, and that's not Willie's fault. That doesn't mean I don't want him to return, he could still be a great 3rd pairing D man, I have a hard time seeing him taking on anything more than that as I don't think his skill set is as strong as 90% of the people on the board think. Coming to a new country was probably extremely tough for him, leaving family and friends to a place where he can't really even talk to anyone would suck. Especially at his age at the time. People calling him immature.....he was 22 years old when he left, of course he was immature. Lol it would be cool if he came back over but im not gonna hold my breath or worry too much about a guy who will likely just play bottom pairing minutes. I also think there is some wishful thinking about Tryamkin. The package is tantalizing but largely unproven. His finish in his rookie season showed a lot of promise but 3 years in the KHL was a step backwards. IMHO the .org depth likely passes him bye. Playing on a stronger team could really help him. Playing at 3RD with stints at 2RD would be the ideal scenario. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Ward Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 15 minutes ago, Boudrias said: I also think there is some wishful thinking about Tryamkin. The package is tantalizing but largely unproven. His finish in his rookie season showed a lot of promise but 3 years in the KHL was a step backwards. IMHO the .org depth likely passes him bye. Playing on a stronger team could really help him. Playing at 3RD with stints at 2RD would be the ideal scenario. I guess the question is, if he comes and is just a 3rd pairing guy, will he bolt again? I worry that people have exagerated his level and he will be a 4-6th dman. That level of ice time didn't sit well last time. How will it sit now that he is not as young and has more professional experience? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyoung Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 10 minutes ago, Dixon Ward said: I guess the question is, if he comes and is just a 3rd pairing guy, will he bolt again? I worry that people have exagerated his level and he will be a 4-6th dman. That level of ice time didn't sit well last time. How will it sit now that he is not as young and has more professional experience? Well that's the question... If he comes back out of shape again, the same thing will likely happen. He won't make the team. I'd imagin he should b prepared the next time he decides to come over...if he does end up doing so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Dixon Ward said: I guess the question is, if he comes and is just a 3rd pairing guy, will he bolt again? I worry that people have exagerated his level and he will be a 4-6th dman. That level of ice time didn't sit well last time. How will it sit now that he is not as young and has more professional experience? If he doesn't like it, then that's too bad if that is indeed his ceiling. No one is going to hand him minutes he cannot handle. At least he would be easier for us to trade with him being here rather than overseas with the possibility of not coming back in this case and I'm sure some team would be enticed with the physical attributes to overlook his inability to play a higher role and pay a decent price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck2288 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 (edited) On 7/23/2019 at 9:25 PM, SilentSam said: 3 years ago, Desjardins threw the kid under the bus.. Desjardins was fired. Tryamkin will be back. Get over it and your hurt feelings. Long before tram finally had enough of Willie and spoke up, many of us on here were screaming about how the moron Willie was mismanaging Tram thankfully Wille has been banished forever from the NHL We are free from Willie Tram AND we love Russians so come back Edited July 26, 2019 by canuck2288 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stierlitz Posted July 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2019 Avto is having training camp in Czech Republic from July 18 to August 2. Here are some pictures from the camp in Yekaterinburg on July 17 - Tryamkin is easily recognizable for his white baseball hat. 2 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobayashi Maru Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 42 minutes ago, Stierlitz said: Avto is having training camp in Czech Republic from July 18 to August 2. Here are some pictures from the camp in Yekaterinburg on July 17 - Tryamkin is easily recognizable for his white baseball hat. He’s so big he looks like he could just rag doll his whole team if he decides to. Come on back Nikita! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kobayashi Maru Posted July 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2019 I like the idea of the following: Edler Myers Hughes Tanev Benn Stecher Trade Tanev for a high pick at the deadline and insert Tryamkin: Edler Myers Hughes Tryamkin Benn Stecher 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, Boudrias said: I also think there is some wishful thinking about Tryamkin. The package is tantalizing but largely unproven. His finish in his rookie season showed a lot of promise but 3 years in the KHL was a step backwards. IMHO the .org depth likely passes him bye. Playing on a stronger team could really help him. Playing at 3RD with stints at 2RD would be the ideal scenario. So, I guess in saying that...…….. If we signed Nikita to a 4 year - 3.5 Million contract Would you trade him to Anaheim or LA or maybe Edmonton or San Jose? For a second in 2020 Personally, I wouldn't risk it Would you? Edited July 26, 2019 by janisahockeynut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hairy Kneel Posted July 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2019 3 hours ago, Stierlitz said: Avto is having training camp in Czech Republic from July 18 to August 2. Here are some pictures from the camp in Yekaterinburg on July 17 - Tryamkin is easily recognizable for his white baseball hat. Looking lean and leading the pack. The fitness criticism is old news catch up people. 8 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glug Datt Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 8 hours ago, Kobayashi Maru said: I like the idea of the following: Edler Myers Hughes Tanev Benn Stecher Trade Tanev for a high pick at the deadline and insert Tryamkin: Edler Myers Hughes Tryamkin Benn Stecher I like that.. Only question I have is, how will big Nik transition to a new(ish) team in a new league late in the season? especially if we are in the playoff hunt, which I suspect, replacing Tanev with Tram might be dangerous. Other option is to trade Tanev after the playoffs 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post aGENT Posted July 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2019 3 hours ago, Glug Datt said: I like that.. Only question I have is, how will big Nik transition to a new(ish) team in a new league late in the season? especially if we are in the playoff hunt, which I suspect, replacing Tanev with Tram might be dangerous. Other option is to trade Tanev after the playoffs I'd move him before he can get hurt 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 8 hours ago, Hairy Kneel said: Looking lean and leading the pack. The fitness criticism is old news catch up people. That year here showed Tryamkin what level of fitness is needed to be a dominant player. Looks like he is in a leadership role in Avto too. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 3 hours ago, Glug Datt said: I like that.. Only question I have is, how will big Nik transition to a new(ish) team in a new league late in the season? especially if we are in the playoff hunt, which I suspect, replacing Tanev with Tram might be dangerous. Other option is to trade Tanev after the playoffs If the Canucks do not trade Tanev early in the year in an attempt to get a younger top 4 d man they won't be trading him at the trade deadline if the Canucks are close to a playoff push. It just won't happen. They would then wait till after the season which would probably be too late to get any value at all for him. But it would make sense to bring in Tryamkin as a spare D when the KHL season ends as in all likelihood we will have at least one injury to a top 6 D that Tryamkin can fill in for. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post theo5789 Posted July 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2019 15 hours ago, Stierlitz said: Avto is having training camp in Czech Republic from July 18 to August 2. Here are some pictures from the camp in Yekaterinburg on July 17 - Tryamkin is easily recognizable for his white baseball hat. The pictures makes it look like some of the guys are doing this. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 5 hours ago, Alflives said: That year here showed Tryamkin what level of fitness is needed to be a dominant player. Looks like he is in a leadership role in Avto too. He is listed as Captain this year,. My guess is that it will relinquish to Pavel Datsuyk who signed with Avtomobilist early this month. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post theo5789 Posted July 26, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2019 39 minutes ago, SilentSam said: He is listed as Captain this year,. My guess is that it will relinquish to Pavel Datsuyk who signed with Avtomobilist early this month. No no, not relinquished, stripped. At least that's how the negative viewers will see it. 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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