aGENT Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 34 minutes ago, Hairy Kneel said: He hasn't renewed with Avto his contract runs out at the end of the season Feb 27(unless they go into the playoffs). He still has his Instagram in a Canuck uniform. He has expressed a desire to come back. He makes sub one million there should at least double his pay here, if not more. He still follows our games and players. As well as Benning keeps talking about bringing him back. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post theo5789 Posted September 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 2, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, Fred65 said: The end of the Gillis era as brought about by ownership. Gillis new, heck Tortorella ( and openly stated so ) new the team was stale and needed to chnage and ownership wanted to get blood out of a stone. The result was Torts ( who was not Gillis choice ) and shortly there after Gillis were released. Sadly this delayed a rebuild for many years. It was inevitable, the two beliefs would collide, the need to rebuild and the desire to string out a few more seasons mediocrity. The owner can do what he wishes, he bank rolled the team and you do what the boss tells you, except it didn't work. During the Gillis era I personally enjoyed hockey likely as much it not more so than and era of my support ( season ticket holder since 1973 ) it was fun to go to the games and mostly because the team enjoyed unprecedented success. Two Presidents trophies and a game 7 of the SC. Never achieved before and it'll be a long time before it happens again. Gillis last move of defiance was when he traded what was surely to be a franchise goalie ( Schneider ) for Horvat, IMO that's worked out pretty good. Now for those that have recently added to the Canuck fan base it likely doesn't matter, it's the here and now. For me it was a drive down Robson Street with thousand out celebrating and every one having a great time. I'm pretty sure Francesco wants a cup very badly while his father can enjoy the moment but that wish resulted in a false dichotomy and has resulted in a prolonged delay. When JB joined the Canucks his grand statement was this team is easy to turn around, and that was 5 years ago Before Benning: Daniel - Henrik - Burrows Higgins - Kesler - Kassian Booth/Matthias - Santorelli - Hansen Sestito - Richardson - Dalpe Edler - Garrison Hamhuis - Bieksa Weber/Stanton - Tanev Lack Markstrom Top prospects: Horvat, Jensen, Schroeder, Corrado Today: Miller/Ferland - EP - BB Pearson/Baertschi - Horvat - Ferland/Miller Baertschi/Pearson - Sutter - Virtanen Leivo (Roussel when healthy) - Beagle - Motte Goldobin/Eriksson Edler - Myers Hughes - Tanev Benn - Stecher (maybe Tryamkin) Markstrom Demko Top prospects: Juolevi, Podkolzin, Gaudette, Woo, Rathbone, Lind, Hoglander, Madden, the list goes on... Safe to say he's turned it around quite a bit in the time he's been GM, which in the grand scheme of things and considering the start point, so he's backed his statement up quite well IMO. Edited September 3, 2019 by theo5789 2 1 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 2 hours ago, theo5789 said: Before Benning: Daniel - Henrik - Burrows Higgins - Kesler - Kassian Booth/Matthias - Santorelli - Hansen Edler - Garrison Hamhuis - Bieksa Weber/Stanton - Tanev Lack Markstrom Top prospects: Horvat, Jensen, Schroeder, Corrado Today: Miller/Ferland - EP - BB Pearson/Baertschi - Horvat - Ferland/Miller Baertschi/Pearson - Sutter - Virtanen Leivo (Roussel when healthy) - Beagle - Motte Goldobin/Eriksson Edler - Myers Hughes - Tanev Benn - Stecher (maybe Tryamkin) Markstrom Demko Top prospects: Juolevi, Podkolzin, Gaudette, Woo, Rathbone, Lind, Hoglander, Madden, the list goes on... Safe to say he's turned it around quite a bit in the time he's been GM, which in the grand scheme of things and considering the start point, so he's backed his statement up quite well IMO. And 5 years is in fact blazing speed to have accomplished what he has when you look at how long other teams have been at it. I honestly laugh when I see/hear people type/say things along the likes of what you quoted. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stierlitz Posted September 3, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 3, 2019 7 hours ago, Hairy Kneel said: Severstal actually looked more comfortable on the NHL sized ice than Automobilist. I think it was Avto's home opener. Avto plays on the Finnish sized ice 28x60 meters. Funny that the "NHL sized" field in Russia (26x60 meters) is actually shorter than the NHL sized field in North America (26x61 meters). Just quick note regarding the first regular season game for Avto: Tryamkin with 18:44 of ice time, +1, zero points. 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laheys Liquor Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 7 hours ago, Standing_Tall#37 said: I’m just curious as to why people think he’s coming back? Has there been any indications or is it just wishful thinking on the fan base? He was recently on Goldobin's instagram live, saying that he wants to come back & that he is just waiting on a new contract 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 23 hours ago, theo5789 said: Considering what Benning had to start with and where it is now in the timeframe so far, it's nothing short of a miracle. ...but those inbred morons at HF think JB sucks! JB has done a great job drafting. And is getting better with contracts and ufas. I am excited for this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Cathode Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 On 8/29/2019 at 10:29 PM, Hairy Kneel said: He's worth at least Hutton's 2.8 if not 3 or more I’m not arguing that, he gets less than million in Russia so his financial break even point is probably less than a million eight - that does grant us plenty of room. And there are quality of life bonuses here - unless you are a big fan of the ballet - though I suppose dealing with a new language can be a headache. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HockeyHarry Posted September 3, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 3, 2019 I really like what Jimbo has done so far with Canucks roster and prospects. Unfortunately you have too have losing Seasons to draft Highend young players like Petey, and Quinn Hughes. I’m looking forward in Big Tryamkin being apart of this new era. Tryamkin, Podkolzin and I hope Goldobin will all be Canuckin one day soonin. Goldie has good skills and vision if he works his ass off he could make this team. Big Tryamkin I cannot wait till he’s back in a Canuck uni....he looked good last time he wore one. 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 19 hours ago, theo5789 said: Safe to say he's turned it around quite a bit in the time he's been GM, which in the grand scheme of things and considering the start point, so he's backed his statement up quite well IMO. Boston, remember them. They won the SC right here in Vcr in 2011. Maybe you didn't notice but they were in the FINAL again. Now that's turning it around. In the last 5 years lots of team have made good progress. In 2011 TB didn't make it to the play-offs, now ? Don't look at the prospects, they maybe good, turn out to be flops or average, hey maybe they get injured ( like OJ for the last 3 years) you can't just celebrate prospects when the goal is to win a Cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal:thecup Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Fred65 said: Boston, remember them. They won the SC right here in Vcr in 2011. Maybe you didn't notice but they were in the FINAL again. Now that's turning it around. In the last 5 years lots of team have made good progress. In 2011 TB didn't make it to the play-offs, now ? Don't look at the prospects, they maybe good, turn out to be flops or average, hey maybe they get injured ( like OJ for the last 3 years) you can't just celebrate prospects when the goal is to win a Cup You guys are in the wrong thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Just now, Goal:thecup said: You guys are in the wrong thread. Yep, apologise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 7 minutes ago, Fred65 said: Boston, remember them. They won the SC right here in Vcr in 2011. Maybe you didn't notice but they were in the FINAL again. Now that's turning it around. In the last 5 years lots of team have made good progress. In 2011 TB didn't make it to the play-offs, now ? Don't look at the prospects, they maybe good, turn out to be flops or average, hey maybe they get injured ( like OJ for the last 3 years) you can't just celebrate prospects when the goal is to win a Cup I fail to see in the quote that the grand statement saying they will win the Cup in 5 years. The goal for every team in the NHL is to win the Cup, every team takes a different path there. Benning wanted to turn the team around and he has done exactly that (arguably in a even shorter timeframe considering when the "rebuild" actually began). Tampa Bay now? Swept in the 1st round? Boston made it to the finals again and didn't win, but isn't the goal to win a Cup? If not, is our goal to simply make the finals again and be happy with it? Benning was with Boston at the time and I'm not going to say he gets full credit, but he brought the mentality of drafting well here that Boston had. They had a better drafting program and prospect pool to draw from in the same time frame. You need to understand that not every path is linear and there are many variables involved as to why teams go in different directions. Don't look at the prospects? Why not? Because it goes against your argument? These prospects are the future towards getting us towards that Cup. Having that young depth at a cheap cost is what is going to help us sustain a good team for much longer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 (edited) I am a firm believer that Tryamkin will be back. That being said I am curbing my expectations for his performance when he does. I don't think anything should be gifted him he will have to earn his way up the depth chart. Which as I see it Hughes Myers Edler Tanev Benn Stetcher Maybe he supplants Benn but I bet Juolevi gets first crack at that. maybe Benning trades Tanev, Woo is lurking there too. Tryamkin is gonna have to show that he has learned to use his X factor if he is going to be more than a depth D as there are other kids chomping at the bit to relegate him to bottom pairing. If he had stayed he would have solidified his position in our top 4 but with our current group I see that as a tougher task. Its one thing to beat out Hutton Biega Webber Sbisa Bartowski, Pedan, Fedun and charge up the depth chart thankfully that is no longer the state of our D. Edited September 4, 2019 by hammertime 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ihatetomatoes Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 9 hours ago, hammertime said: I am a firm believer that Tryamkin will be back. That being said I am curbing my expectations for his performance when he does. I don't think anything should be gifted him he will have to earn his way up the depth chart. Which as I see it Hughes Myers Edler Tanev Benn Stetcher Maybe he supplants Benn but I bet Juolevi gets first crack at that. maybe Benning trades Tanev, Woo is lurking there too. Tryamkin is gonna have to show that he has learned to use his X factor if he is going to be more than a depth D as there are other kids chomping at the bit to relegate him to bottom pairing. If he had stayed he would have solidified his position in our top 4 but with our current group I see that as a tougher task. Its one thing to beat out Hutton Biega Webber Sbisa Bartowski, Pedan, Fedun and charge up the depth chart thankfully that is no longer the state of our D. Tryamkin won't be coming back this year but there will be a spot on the right side open next year with Tanev most likely leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stierlitz Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Second win for Avto 3-2 against Vityaz, Moscow region. Tryamkin with 16:35 of ice time, 2 minutes for game delay in 3rd period, +1, zero points, 2 hits, 2 blocked shots. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 20 hours ago, hammertime said: I am a firm believer that Tryamkin will be back. That being said I am curbing my expectations for his performance when he does. I don't think anything should be gifted him he will have to earn his way up the depth chart. Which as I see it Hughes Myers Edler Tanev Benn Stetcher Maybe he supplants Benn but I bet Juolevi gets first crack at that. maybe Benning trades Tanev, Woo is lurking there too. Tryamkin is gonna have to show that he has learned to use his X factor if he is going to be more than a depth D as there are other kids chomping at the bit to relegate him to bottom pairing. If he had stayed he would have solidified his position in our top 4 but with our current group I see that as a tougher task. Its one thing to beat out Hutton Biega Webber Sbisa Bartowski, Pedan, Fedun and charge up the depth chart thankfully that is no longer the state of our D. Joulevi is still recovering from a knee injury. I hope we don't rush it. I think JB is starting him in Utica. That'll be a great way to rehab his knee with controlled levels of physical contact. Plus lots of PP time. Tryamkin is already on the 1st PK unit and playing a defense first defenseman. I don't think Joulevi is his prime competition. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroCanuck Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 40 minutes ago, Hairy Kneel said: Joulevi is still recovering from a knee injury. I hope we don't rush it. I think JB is starting him in Utica. That'll be a great way to rehab his knee with controlled levels of physical contact. Plus lots of PP time. Tryamkin is already on the 1st PK unit and playing a defense first defenseman. I don't think Joulevi is his prime competition. Dream team with who we currently have in 2 years, Hughes-Woo Juolevi-Myers Tryamkin-Stecher 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, RetroCanuck said: Dream team with who we currently have in 2 years, Hughes-Woo Juolevi-Myers Tryamkin-Stecher With Rathbone and Utanen pushing for ice-time too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Just now, Hairy Kneel said: Joulevi is still recovering from a knee injury. I hope we don't rush it. I think JB is starting him in Utica. That'll be a great way to rehab his knee with controlled levels of physical contact. Plus lots of PP time. Tryamkin is already on the 1st PK unit and playing a defense first defenseman. I don't think Joulevi is his prime competition. I agree Tanev is his most likely target but he still has to get in the lineup. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, RetroCanuck said: Dream team with who we currently have in 2 years, Hughes-Woo Juolevi-Myers Tryamkin-Stecher Thats a whole lot of presumption. realistically are they going to be a top 10 d corp in the NHL in 2 years? Edited September 5, 2019 by hammertime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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