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34 minutes ago, Hairy Kneel said:

He hasn't renewed with Avto his contract runs out at the end of the season Feb 27(unless they go into the playoffs). He still has his Instagram in a Canuck uniform. He has expressed a desire to come back. He makes sub one million there should at least double his pay here, if not more. He still follows our games and players.

As well as Benning keeps talking about bringing him back.

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2 hours ago, theo5789 said:

Before Benning:

Daniel - Henrik - Burrows

Higgins - Kesler - Kassian

Booth/Matthias - Santorelli - Hansen

 

Edler - Garrison

Hamhuis - Bieksa

Weber/Stanton - Tanev

 

Lack

Markstrom

 

Top prospects: Horvat, Jensen, Schroeder, Corrado

 

Today:

Miller/Ferland - EP - BB

Pearson/Baertschi - Horvat - Ferland/Miller

Baertschi/Pearson - Sutter - Virtanen

Leivo (Roussel when healthy) - Beagle - Motte

Goldobin/Eriksson

 

Edler - Myers

Hughes - Tanev

Benn - Stecher

(maybe Tryamkin)

 

Markstrom

Demko

 

Top prospects: Juolevi, Podkolzin, Gaudette, Woo, Rathbone, Lind, Hoglander, Madden, the list goes on...

 

 

Safe to say he's turned it around quite a bit in the time he's been GM, which in the grand scheme of things and considering the start point, so he's backed his statement up quite well IMO.

And 5 years is in fact blazing speed to have accomplished what he has when you look at how long other teams have been at it.

 

I honestly laugh when I see/hear people type/say things along the likes of what you quoted.

 

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7 hours ago, Standing_Tall#37 said:

I’m just curious as to why people think he’s coming back? Has there been any indications or is it just wishful thinking on the fan base? 

He was recently on Goldobin's instagram live, saying that he wants to come back & that he is just waiting on a new contract

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23 hours ago, theo5789 said:

Considering what Benning had to start with and where it is now in the timeframe so far, it's nothing short of a miracle. 

...but those inbred morons at HF think JB sucks!

 

::D

 

JB has done a great job drafting. And is getting better with contracts and ufas.  I am excited for this year. :towel:

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On 8/29/2019 at 10:29 PM, Hairy Kneel said:

He's worth at least Hutton's 2.8 if not 3 or more

I’m not arguing that, he gets less than million in Russia so his financial break even point is probably less than a million eight - that does  grant us plenty of room.  And there are quality of life bonuses here - unless you are a big fan of the ballet - though I suppose dealing with a new language can be a headache.

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19 hours ago, theo5789 said:

Safe to say he's turned it around quite a bit in the time he's been GM, which in the grand scheme of things and considering the start point, so he's backed his statement up quite well IMO.

Boston, remember them. They won the SC right here in Vcr in 2011. Maybe you didn't notice but they were in the FINAL again. Now that's turning it around. In the last 5 years lots of team have made good progress. In 2011 TB didn't make it to the play-offs, now ? Don't look at the prospects, they maybe good, turn out to be flops or average, hey maybe they get injured ( like OJ for the last 3 years) you can't just celebrate prospects when the goal is to win a Cup

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1 minute ago, Fred65 said:

Boston, remember them. They won the SC right here in Vcr in 2011. Maybe you didn't notice but they were in the FINAL again. Now that's turning it around. In the last 5 years lots of team have made good progress. In 2011 TB didn't make it to the play-offs, now ? Don't look at the prospects, they maybe good, turn out to be flops or average, hey maybe they get injured ( like OJ for the last 3 years) you can't just celebrate prospects when the goal is to win a Cup

You guys are in the wrong thread.

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7 minutes ago, Fred65 said:

Boston, remember them. They won the SC right here in Vcr in 2011. Maybe you didn't notice but they were in the FINAL again. Now that's turning it around. In the last 5 years lots of team have made good progress. In 2011 TB didn't make it to the play-offs, now ? Don't look at the prospects, they maybe good, turn out to be flops or average, hey maybe they get injured ( like OJ for the last 3 years) you can't just celebrate prospects when the goal is to win a Cup

I fail to see in the quote that the grand statement saying they will win the Cup in 5 years. The goal for every team in the NHL is to win the Cup, every team takes a different path there. Benning wanted to turn the team around and he has done exactly that (arguably in a even shorter timeframe considering when the "rebuild" actually began).

 

Tampa Bay now? Swept in the 1st round? Boston made it to the finals again and didn't win, but isn't the goal to win a Cup? If not, is our goal to simply make the finals again and be happy with it? Benning was with Boston at the time and I'm not going to say he gets full credit, but he brought the mentality of drafting well here that Boston had. They had a better drafting program and prospect pool to draw from in the same time frame. You need to understand that not every path is linear and there are many variables involved as to why teams go in different directions.

 

Don't look at the prospects? Why not? Because it goes against your argument? These prospects are the future towards getting us towards that Cup. Having that young depth at a cheap cost is what is going to help us sustain a good team for much longer.

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I am a firm believer that Tryamkin will be back. That being said I am curbing my expectations for his performance when he does.  I don't think anything should be gifted him he will have to earn his way up the depth chart. Which as I see it 

 

Hughes Myers 

Edler Tanev

Benn Stetcher

 

Maybe he supplants Benn but I bet Juolevi gets first crack at that. maybe Benning trades Tanev, Woo is lurking there too. Tryamkin is gonna have to show that he has learned to use his X factor if he is going to be more than a depth D as there are other kids chomping at the bit to relegate him to bottom pairing. If he had stayed he would have solidified his position in our top 4 but with our current group I see that as a tougher task. Its one thing to beat out Hutton Biega Webber Sbisa Bartowski, Pedan, Fedun and charge up the depth chart thankfully that is no longer the state of our D.   

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9 hours ago, hammertime said:

I am a firm believer that Tryamkin will be back. That being said I am curbing my expectations for his performance when he does.  I don't think anything should be gifted him he will have to earn his way up the depth chart. Which as I see it 

 

Hughes Myers 

Edler Tanev

Benn Stetcher

 

Maybe he supplants Benn but I bet Juolevi gets first crack at that. maybe Benning trades Tanev, Woo is lurking there too. Tryamkin is gonna have to show that he has learned to use his X factor if he is going to be more than a depth D as there are other kids chomping at the bit to relegate him to bottom pairing. If he had stayed he would have solidified his position in our top 4 but with our current group I see that as a tougher task. Its one thing to beat out Hutton Biega Webber Sbisa Bartowski, Pedan, Fedun and charge up the depth chart thankfully that is no longer the state of our D.   

Tryamkin won't be coming back this year but there will be a spot on the right side open next year with Tanev most likely leaving. 

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20 hours ago, hammertime said:

I am a firm believer that Tryamkin will be back. That being said I am curbing my expectations for his performance when he does.  I don't think anything should be gifted him he will have to earn his way up the depth chart. Which as I see it 

 

Hughes Myers 

Edler Tanev

Benn Stetcher

 

Maybe he supplants Benn but I bet Juolevi gets first crack at that. maybe Benning trades Tanev, Woo is lurking there too. Tryamkin is gonna have to show that he has learned to use his X factor if he is going to be more than a depth D as there are other kids chomping at the bit to relegate him to bottom pairing. If he had stayed he would have solidified his position in our top 4 but with our current group I see that as a tougher task. Its one thing to beat out Hutton Biega Webber Sbisa Bartowski, Pedan, Fedun and charge up the depth chart thankfully that is no longer the state of our D.   

Joulevi is still recovering from a knee injury. I hope we don't rush it. I think JB is starting him in Utica. That'll be a great way to rehab his knee with controlled levels of physical contact. Plus lots of PP time. Tryamkin is already on the 1st PK unit and playing a defense first defenseman. I don't think Joulevi is his prime competition.

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40 minutes ago, Hairy Kneel said:

Joulevi is still recovering from a knee injury. I hope we don't rush it. I think JB is starting him in Utica. That'll be a great way to rehab his knee with controlled levels of physical contact. Plus lots of PP time. Tryamkin is already on the 1st PK unit and playing a defense first defenseman. I don't think Joulevi is his prime competition.

Dream team with who we currently have in 2 years,

 

Hughes-Woo

Juolevi-Myers

Tryamkin-Stecher

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Just now, Hairy Kneel said:

Joulevi is still recovering from a knee injury. I hope we don't rush it. I think JB is starting him in Utica. That'll be a great way to rehab his knee with controlled levels of physical contact. Plus lots of PP time. Tryamkin is already on the 1st PK unit and playing a defense first defenseman. I don't think Joulevi is his prime competition.

I agree Tanev is his most likely target but he still has to get in the lineup. 

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9 minutes ago, RetroCanuck said:

Dream team with who we currently have in 2 years,

 

Hughes-Woo

Juolevi-Myers

Tryamkin-Stecher

Thats a whole lot of presumption. realistically are they going to be a top 10 d corp in the NHL in 2 years?

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