Kanukfanatic Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, VancouverHabitant said: Young players don't get much playing time in the KHL. His best bet is to actually drop down a level and play in the MHL this year. KHL is full of very very strong mature players, and it's a league where winning today is all that matters so young players have a tough time cracking the lineup. Kind of sounds like how the NHL used to be 3+ years ago. But now the young guys have taken over the NHL....the KHL will catch up at some point probably. Edited September 7, 2019 by Kanukfanatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VancouverHabitant Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Kanukfanatic said: Kind of sounds like how the NHL used to be 3+ years ago. But now the young guys have taken over the NHL....the KHL will catch up at some point probably. With all due respect Mr. @Kanukfanatic, I think that the key difference is that if a young player takes two years to become a superstar, he will go over to the NHL. So KHL has zero incentive to develop a young player. In the NHL, if you got a young player that will struggle and lose your games, you're okay with it as long as it means that in two-three years you'll be winning games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Cathode Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Podkolzin should come over and play a year of junior. He would get huge minutes and experience, learn the language and culture. Follow the path Svetchnikov took, it was good for him, for sure. Not playing is not good for development. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 39 minutes ago, Ray_Cathode said: Podkolzin should come over and play a year of junior. He would get huge minutes and experience, learn the language and culture. Follow the path Svetchnikov took, it was good for him, for sure. Not playing is not good for development. He's under contract ( irrevocable ) with St Petersburg in the KHL for this season and next. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuckster86 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 11 hours ago, Kobayashi Maru said: Man I can’t wait until he comes back. I miss everything that he brings. Such a key piece for us. I think we all forget what he actually brought when with us. I really hope we push to sign and bring him over next spring after his KHL season is over. He is in the final year of his contract with them no? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpn1 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 4 hours ago, Fred65 said: He's under contract ( irrevocable ) with St Petersburg in the KHL for this season and next. I thought it was over at the end of this coming season. That is why there has been talk of him coming over at the end of his KHL season. Correct me if I am wrong please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobayashi Maru Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 minute ago, dpn1 said: I thought it was over at the end of this coming season. That is why there has been talk of him coming over at the end of his KHL season. Correct me if I am wrong please. Unless his team makes the playoffs I believe his contract is up in late Feb. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stierlitz Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 16 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: This is true and I agree. Playing one shift a game is not gonna be good for his development. He's better off playing 18-20 minutes a night in a lower league. He's only 18 so he doesn't need to be with the big boys this year. Maybe next year he can move up. That was battle of two KHL titans: Avto is top-3 team in East and SKA is top-3 in West. SKA was loosing so obviously a young inexperienced player was on the bench. Next game SKA plays at home against Sibir, Podkolzin will get ice time. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 3 hours ago, Kobayashi Maru said: Unless his team makes the playoffs I believe his contract is up in late Feb. His contract was for 2 yrs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobayashi Maru Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 26 minutes ago, higgyfan said: His contract was for 2 yrs. I think that this post below is accurate on the contract details. I believe their season end early so we can bring him in closer to the end of the year: On 9/2/2019 at 11:55 AM, Hairy Kneel said: He hasn't renewed with Avto his contract runs out at the end of the season Feb 27(unless they go into the playoffs). He still has his Instagram in a Canuck uniform. He has expressed a desire to come back. He makes sub one million there should at least double his pay here, if not more. He still follows our games and players. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, Kobayashi Maru said: I think that this post below is accurate on the contract details. I believe their season end early so we can bring him in closer to the end of the year: My bad...I was thinking of Podz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobayashi Maru Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 minute ago, higgyfan said: My bad...I was thinking of Podz Well with his 40 seconds of ice time maybe he will buy out his contract and come on over. I can’t wait for Podz too! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 4 hours ago, Stierlitz said: That was battle of two KHL titans: Avto is top-3 team in East and SKA is top-3 in West. SKA was loosing so obviously a young inexperienced player was on the bench. Next game SKA plays at home against Sibir, Podkolzin will get ice time. If SKA is behind in the game then yes it makes sense to play the veterans. But 40 seconds is one shift, you don't shorten your bench in the 1st period. You would think he would have gotten at least 5-6 shifts even in a tight game with a good opponent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said: If SKA is behind in the game then yes it makes sense to play the veterans. But 40 seconds is one shift, you don't shorten your bench in the 1st period. You would think he would have gotten at least 5-6 shifts even in a tight game with a good opponent. It seems that’s how Russian coaches use their young guys. It’s the same for their U20 team. Rarely do guys not 19 even make their team, let alone play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Pettersson Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, Alflives said: It seems that’s how Russian coaches use their young guys. It’s the same for their U20 team. Rarely do guys not 19 even make their team, let alone play. This is true. I'm just wondering if it's a good idea to have Podkolzin playing in the KHL this year. I'm sure he'll get his minutes but there could be lots of games where he's sitting on the bench the entire game. He's better off being a top guy in a lower end league knowing he's the go to guy and getting 18-19 minutes a night. Much better for his development I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuckster86 Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Elias Pettersson said: If SKA is behind in the game then yes it makes sense to play the veterans. But 40 seconds is one shift, you don't shorten your bench in the 1st period. You would think he would have gotten at least 5-6 shifts even in a tight game with a good opponent. I think someone posted somewhere than in the KHL they ice 13 F and 7 D. So if your a youngster your likely to be that "extra" guy...unless you are some unworldly talented player, but then you would probably just be in the NHL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, Canuckster86 said: I think someone posted somewhere than in the KHL they ice 13 F and 7 D. So if your a youngster your likely to be that "extra" guy...unless you are some unworldly talented player, but then you would probably just be in the NHL I think all the recent top Russian players came over in their early 20’s, excepting ones that played Major Junior. Podkolzin is a great young talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Elias Pettersson said: This is true. I'm just wondering if it's a good idea to have Podkolzin playing in the KHL this year. I'm sure he'll get his minutes but there could be lots of games where he's sitting on the bench the entire game. He's better off being a top guy in a lower end league knowing he's the go to guy and getting 18-19 minutes a night. Much better for his development I think. That's up tp Podkolzin, not the Canucks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stierlitz Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 17 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said: I'm just wondering if it's a good idea to have Podkolzin playing in the KHL this year. I'm sure he'll get his minutes but there could be lots of games where he's sitting on the bench the entire game. He's better off being a top guy in a lower end league knowing he's the go to guy and getting 18-19 minutes a night. Much better for his development I think. Let's wait for the next several SKA games, the closest one is on Sep 10 at home. Kudashov is very good coach for developing young players. If the KHL is too much for Podkolzin at this time, Vasily is going to play in the VHL for sure. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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