Nikita Tryamkin | D

[Alflives]

1 minute ago, Elias Pettersson said:

Risto is a minus machine.  Tryamkin, Myers and Woo give up plenty of size and grit with Hughes and Rathbone the offensive pieces.  This is if we lose Stecher.  Rahtbone may be better than Stecher anyways so it may not matter.  Lots of upside with Rathbone.  He could be a beauty.

Agree about Rathbone.  He looks like another JB (Bracket) steal.  

[Elias Pettersson]

3 minutes ago, Alflives said:

Agree about Rathbone.  He looks like another JB (Bracket) steal.  

https://canucksarmy.com/2019/09/11/jack-rathbone/

 

He played with Adam Fox last year and they formed one of the top offensive pairings in the NCAA.  Fox is now in the NHL.  Rahtbone could be next.  A puck moving defenceman his whole career.  Just what the doctor ordered for Vancouver.  A 4th round highway robbery by Benning.

[Rush17]

4 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said:

https://canucksarmy.com/2019/09/11/jack-rathbone/

 

He played with Adam Fox last year and they formed one of the top offensive pairings in the NCAA.  Fox is now in the NHL.  Rahtbone could be next.  A puck moving defenceman his whole career.  Just what the doctor ordered for Vancouver.  A 4th round highway robbery by Benning.

Judd Brackett found that gem. He sold Jim on him hard in the draft Day video.

[Rush17]

4 minutes ago, Rush17 said:

Judd Brackett found that gem. He sold Jim on him hard in the draft Day video.

Jack is an elite skater and can absolutely hammer the puck!

[Alflives]

10 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said:

https://canucksarmy.com/2019/09/11/jack-rathbone/

 

He played with Adam Fox last year and they formed one of the top offensive pairings in the NCAA.  Fox is now in the NHL.  Rahtbone could be next.  A puck moving defenceman his whole career.  Just what the doctor ordered for Vancouver.  A 4th round highway robbery by Benning.

I like Rathbone's skill, but he has some bite (almost meanness) in his game too.  

[Elias Pettersson]

23 minutes ago, Rush17 said:

Jack is an elite skater and can absolutely hammer the puck!

"Why isn't anyone taking Kole Lind?"

[SilentSam]

21 hours ago, Canuck Surfer said:

https://www.nhl.com/news/seattle-2021-nhl-expansion-draft-rules-same-as-vegas-golden-knights-followed/c-302586918

 

All 1st and 2knd year players do not require protection. He would have only played 2 full years?  But I believe the threshold for year counting is 10 games.  He played 13 with us in 2015/16. Then all of 206/17.  I believe as soon as he signs & passes 10 games in a new season he will be eligible to be selected / need to be protected. That could be as soon as the end of this year.

 

Someone can (please, please) prove that theory wrong?

Playoff games in 2019/ 20 count? Or just regular season I wonder?

[Canuck Surfer]

5 hours ago, aGENT said:

I think you're right. Not eligible now but likely will be when/if he re-signs and plays 10 or more games.

 

That said, depending on what other moves we might make in the interim (Barrie?) and how Tryamkin fairs when he returns/if he sticks around, how OJ, Rathbone, Briesebois, Woo etc all develop... I'd not be shocked to see Myers exposed in the ED either  Frees up $6m and a roster spot...just saying.

Definitely a thought!

 

Would rather load up Markstrom, Roussel, Myers, Tryamkin for ED, sign Barrie.

 

We wont come out that worse for wear if we lose one...

 

We can also protect 4 forwards, 4 D; Pettersson, Boeser, Horvat & one of Miller / Ferland.  Protect Tryamkin, Myers, Juolevi, Barrie?

 

Depends how players are stacking up at that stage.  But I would think you are right; expose Myers. 

[Canuck Surfer]

3 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said:

"Why isn't anyone taking Kole Lind?"

Nic Hague would have been a great pick. 

[Phat Fingers]

1 hour ago, Canuck Surfer said:

Nic Hague would have been a great pick. 

Hague would have been a great pick for us.   

 

Lots of time left for Lind to show us he has it.  But adding a big mean d man that can contribute offensively would have been very nice. 

[HorvatToBaertschi]

12 hours ago, Rush17 said:

Jack is an elite skater and can absolutely hammer the puck!

Why did he drop to the 4th round? 

[canuckpuckluck1]

3 hours ago, HorvatToBaertschi said:

Why did he drop to the 4th round? 

I might be wrong but I think he committed to go back to high school to care for his brother ( some sort of disability if I recall correctly). This might have been viewed as a flaw, but I am sure Jim Benning and Judd Bracket saw it as a sign of his character.

I am really excited to see if Jack can become an NHLer. Its such a fun journey to watch these kids grow in skill.

[aGENT]

7 hours ago, HorvatToBaertschi said:

Why did he drop to the 4th round? 

 

4 hours ago, canuckpuckluck15 said:

I might be wrong but I think he committed to go back to high school to care for his brother ( some sort of disability if I recall correctly). This might have been viewed as a flaw, but I am sure Jim Benning and Judd Bracket saw it as a sign of his character.

I am really excited to see if Jack can become an NHLer. Its such a fun journey to watch these kids grow in skill.

Yup, was going back to high school hockey/not taking a more typical development route and he's undersized. Those are red flags for an early pick (which would be why we didn't spend a 3rd on him either) but once you get to the 4th...if you like the kid, you take a flyer and can afford to be patient.

[SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME]

4 hours ago, canuckpuckluck15 said:

I might be wrong but I think he committed to go back to high school to care for his brother ( some sort of disability if I recall correctly). This might have been viewed as a flaw, but I am sure Jim Benning and Judd Bracket saw it as a sign of his character.

I am really excited to see if Jack can become an NHLer. Its such a fun journey to watch these kids grow in skill.

Yeah, for those who don’t know the story  (from 2017 article):

 

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Rathbone plans to stay local when next season rolls around, and he has his reasons. The biggest one is his younger brother Teddy, who was diagnosed as autistic at a young age. Teddy is 8 years old, making good strides with his speech therapy and flourishing in an integrated classroom at the Joyce Kilmer School. For that reason, Jack would prefer to stick around for a while. 

 

“He’s a big piece of my life, and I’m going to be honest, it would be tough to leave him for seven months out of the year at this stage,” said Jack, the oldest of Jason and Beth Rathbone’s three children. “He’s probably my best friend. So being able to stay home, being able to complete my four years at Dexter — they took a financial risk on me and my sister (Jayne), we wouldn’t be able to afford an education there — being able to finish my four years and getting my diploma, that means a lot to me and my family.” 

Jason Rathbone, who played four years at Boston College and coached Jack with the South Shore Kings and Cape Cod Whalers, said Jack has played a big role in helping him and his wife in the everyday care of Teddy. 

“Jack has helped my wife and me so much with Teddy,” said Jason. “It could be as severe as Teddy having a seizure and Jack has been there to help him get on his side and deal with it. Or it could be as simple as going swimming with him. We’ve got a little in-ground pool in the back, and Teddy always wants to go swimming, and my wife and I can’t always be there. Jack is always willing to hop in the pool with him and be with him.” 

Whatever he gives to Teddy, Jack said, he gets back more in return. 

“I hope to be a role model for him, but I don’t think he can learn any more from me than I learn from him,” said Jack. “His personality and the attitude that he brings to everyday life, he gives me a new perspective. He’s what drives me every day to be able to chase the dream of playing in the NHL one day because I know that he can’t. It’s tough to see. But at the same time, to see him at a family skate at Dexter, and just bringing him out on the ice, just little moments like that to see how happy he is, it’s what drives me to become the best player possible.”

 

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.bostonherald.com/2017/06/15/west-roxbury-nhl-prospect-jack-rathbone-has-priorities-in-right-place/amp/

 

So, if you didn’t already love Jack Rathbone, you do now.  

Edited September 26, 2019 by SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME

[Fantomex]

41 minutes ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said:

Yeah, for those who don’t know the story  (from 2017 article):

 

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.bostonherald.com/2017/06/15/west-roxbury-nhl-prospect-jack-rathbone-has-priorities-in-right-place/amp/

 

So, if you didn’t already love Jack Rathbone, you do now.  

I came here because I love Tryamkin, only to find my love for Rathbone grow! This young man appears to have all the mental and emotional qualities needed to thrive in big moments, I just hope he signs.

 

Another interesting part of the draft clip was JB's confidence in Gunnarsson, that one appears to be a miss.

 

21 hours ago, Elias Pettersson said:

Risto is a minus machine.  Tryamkin, Myers and Woo give up plenty of size and grit with Hughes and Rathbone the offensive pieces.  This is if we lose Stecher.  Rahtbone may be better than Stecher anyways so it may not matter.  Lots of upside with Rathbone.  He could be a beauty.

 

As for Risto, that's a hard pass. I agree, I'd rather let these other picks play out, attempt to bring back Tryamkin and use FA market, as with Myers and Benn, to fill

any big holes. Trading for an asset like Risto would be foolish IMO, as his price would be way too high.

[SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME]

1 hour ago, Fantomex said:

I came here because I love Tryamkin, only to find my love for Rathbone grow! This young man appears to have all the mental and emotional qualities needed to thrive in big moments, I just hope he signs.

I’m pretty confident Rathbone will sign (assuming he’s offered a contract). He’s made a number of statements since being drafted that demonstrate his commitment  to Vancouver. He’s a very loyal and high character individual and he’s already shown that he feels obligated to reward organizations that take a chance on him (like Dexter). He’s really the last person I’d ever expect to hold out for college free agency. Assuming he continues to develop well, he’ll be a Canuck when he’s ready to turn pro.

[canuckpuckluck1]

5 hours ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said:

Yeah, for those who don’t know the story  (from 2017 article):

 

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.bostonherald.com/2017/06/15/west-roxbury-nhl-prospect-jack-rathbone-has-priorities-in-right-place/amp/

 

So, if you didn’t already love Jack Rathbone, you do now.  

With a back story and character like that if Jack makes the big show, tell me he wont be a fan favourite!

[Stierlitz]

Avto lost again to Spartak, Moscow 0-1, this time on the road. Tryamkin played 19:46 with 2 registered hits and +0.

 

[Hairy Kneel]

11 hours ago, Stierlitz said:

Avto lost again to Spartak, Moscow 0-1, this time on the road. Tryamkin played 19:46 with 2 registered hits and +0.

 

Watched the game and the big guy looks steady, good on the pk. Good sense of clearing his zone, poke checks are there. One play I liked was when his defensive partner started losing a puck in the crease and towards Try's side. Rather than join those two players mucking for the puck he skated past them to the open man on the other side of the crease. The open man wanted to cherry pick for a garbage goal. The puck ended up in the corner but the crease was covered. Because Try didn't get caught chasing.

They are not coaching him to do offense much. Hopefully we will.

[SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME]

1 hour ago, Hairy Kneel said:

They are not coaching him to do offense much. Hopefully we will.

A bit of a shame because during 2017-18 and the first half of 2018-19, it seemed like he got much more offensive opportunities. And he looked good several times I watched him, either in power play or with top forward lines at 5v5. A couple games I’d have rated him their best offensive D (and one of the best on defense as well). I get that offense isn’t necessarily his forte and that part of development is often specialization, but I’d have hoped he’d continue to get offensive looks and build more of a 2-way game over there than just a shutdown/matchup/PK role. Not that there’s anything wrong with a hulking defensive specialist Dman. Just feel like Tryamkin has more tools than that.