Fred65 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 5 hours ago, SilentSam said: In the KHL, 6 Teams are playing on NHL Size rinks,. 11 Teams are on Finish size rinks, and only 7 Teams remain playing on KHL size rinks for their home games. Thanks, tough on the players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Fred65 said: Thanks, tough on the players Yes, pretty sure it keeps them on their toes lol! At least it’s the beginning of symmetry between the world of hockey internationally.. to add , Tryamkins game suits the smaller ice, he likes to stay close to opposing players, and his speed, stride, strength and reach make him the perfect shut down D man... just ask Jamie Benn. He does have a great offensive prowess, great breakout pass,.. and when he gets that 265 lb frame accelerating quickly, nobody gets in front of him. Looking forward to what may transpire in late Feb- early March between Nik and the Canucks. Edited December 9, 2019 by SilentSam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrockBoester Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 12 hours ago, Fred65 said: The good thing about Tryamkin is the obvious. We've all seen him, we can judge, and he hopefully a batter player than last time. Quote Very little to lose. He is a NHL defenceman and has a jump on all the wanna bees Spoiler 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 14 hours ago, theo5789 said: Half the year? Something about that doesn't add up. He's averaging 20+ minutes a game this season, if half of those were "3rd pairing" minutes, then the other half would be mega 1st pairing 25-30 minute nights to average it out? He may have had the odd game with lower minutes and even "healthy scratched" but they have a system rotating their dmen to not burn them out over the season. They have 5 dmen this season that pretty much has played every game this season and the others don't seem to have that average TOI that suggests they were top contributors that Tryamkin took over. Since their training camp, Tryamkin has been viewed as one of their leaders and certainly in their leadership group leading training sessions and such. He's worn a letter on his jersey on occasion and even worn the C (and wasn't stripped of it as many like to suggest). None of this would suggest they think little of him on his team or suggest he's an example of poor conditioning. They swapped to NA ice this season and Tryamkin doesn't look to have missed a beat compared to his team. The only fear of him going back to the KHL was the worry that he wouldn't come back, but most signs suggests he will. It's your opinion on what league you think would be better for development and that's fine, but there are several "older" Russian players that have come from the KHL and completely dominate the NHL, for example Panarin. Not saying Tryamkin is at that level, but it just means that it's not like players cannot develop there so it cannot be assumed that Tryamkin hasn't grown as a player and person in his time in the KHL. I was talking about his rookie season with Vancouver not his KHL career. I am not suggesting that Tryamkin has not matured or that his game not improved. One would think that to be true but that is also in the KHL and the NHL is a different challenge. We won't know if his game will adapt until he comes, if he does. My attitude will be open to his return because he offers a big body with a physicality that the Canucks need. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 43 minutes ago, Boudrias said: I was talking about his rookie season with Vancouver not his KHL career. I am not suggesting that Tryamkin has not matured or that his game not improved. One would think that to be true but that is also in the KHL and the NHL is a different challenge. We won't know if his game will adapt until he comes, if he does. My attitude will be open to his return because he offers a big body with a physicality that the Canucks need. My bad. Well we all know about the conditioning issues he had when he first came. I think that was more of a reason why he had lower minutes to start. However I would think he has improved in this area based on his play in the KHL, so there's no reason for some posters to keep harping on him about it (but like you said, we will see if/when he arrives). I wish he never left to the KHL, but I'm not as upset about it as some seem to be. Players can develop in the KHL, just like in any league in the world. Some don't make it through the AHL and some fizzle out at the NHL level. I'm not concerned about where he's been developing as it looks like his progress has been decent. Cautiously optimistic is where I would stand, but for me, I feel he should be ready to step in and be impactful. Even if he was a 3rd pairing dman here that can play up his minutes, that's at worst more depth for the team. This was where he left off with us, so I feel he can only go up from there based on his level of play improving during his time in the KHL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 11 hours ago, Boudrias said: I was talking about his rookie season with Vancouver not his KHL career. I am not suggesting that Tryamkin has not matured or that his game not improved. One would think that to be true but that is also in the KHL and the NHL is a different challenge. We won't know if his game will adapt until he comes, if he does. My attitude will be open to his return because he offers a big body with a physicality that the Canucks need. He doesn't really play that physical of a game, but because of his size, he does a whole different level of damage when he does hit someone. Six foot Seven and 265 lbs hitting you at 20 miles an hour, most players in the NHL are going to feel that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Coming soon to an arena near you: HUGHES - MYERS STETCHER - TRYAMKIN BENN - WOO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 4 hours ago, Me_ said: Coming soon to an arena near you: HUGHES - MYERS STETCHER - TRYAMKIN BENN - WOO Swap out Stecher and Benn with Juolevi and Rathbone. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 23 hours ago, Me_ said: Coming soon to an arena near you: HUGHES - MYERS STETCHER - TRYAMKIN BENN - WOO That is gross lol. Stecher is 25 and most likely already maxed out as a 3rd pairing D. Tryamkin is an unknown. Woo is probably a few years away. That line up is as big a stretch as the top four suggested in my signature below..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Kanukfanatic said: That is gross lol. Stecher is 25 and most likely already maxed out as a 3rd pairing D. Tryamkin is an unknown. Woo is probably a few years away. That line up is as big a stretch as the top four suggested in my signature below..... Then the Canucks need to do more work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Me_ said: Then the Canucks need to do more work. Totally agree. But, as the other poster pointed out, you forgot Rathbone. He is doing very well right now. Juolevi is a wildcard....I am still hopeful. Edler may still have a couple / few very strong years left too (even though some posters rag on him even though he is a top pairing D and is performing like one). Let us hope JB can pull off some kind of trade for a D man equivalent of what he did with JT Miller. Now that would be damn exciting lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 23 minutes ago, Kanukfanatic said: Totally agree. But, as the other poster pointed out, you forgot Rathbone. He is doing very well right now. Juolevi is a wildcard....I am still hopeful. Edler may still have a couple / few very strong years left too (even though some posters rag on him even though he is a top pairing D and is performing like one). Let us hope JB can pull off some kind of trade for a D man equivalent of what he did with JT Miller. Now that would be damn exciting lol. And give up another 1st rounder? I don't know if CDC can handle that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me_ Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Kanukfanatic said: Totally agree. But, as the other poster pointed out, you forgot Rathbone. He is doing very well right now. Juolevi is a wildcard....I am still hopeful. Edler may still have a couple / few very strong years left too (even though some posters rag on him even though he is a top pairing D and is performing like one). Let us hope JB can pull off some kind of trade for a D man equivalent of what he did with JT Miller. Now that would be damn exciting lol. Pietrangelo is apparently being shopped... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SilentSam Posted December 14, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 14, 2019 (edited) On 12/9/2019 at 6:03 AM, Boudrias said: I was talking about his rookie season with Vancouver not his KHL career. I am not suggesting that Tryamkin has not matured or that his game not improved. One would think that to be true but that is also in the KHL and the NHL is a different challenge. We won't know if his game will adapt until he comes, if he does. My attitude will be open to his return because he offers a big body with a physicality that the Canucks need. On 12/9/2019 at 6:54 AM, theo5789 said: My bad. Well we all know about the conditioning issues he had when he first came. I think that was more of a reason why he had lower minutes to start. However I would think he has improved in this area based on his play in the KHL, so there's no reason for some posters to keep harping on him about it (but like you said, we will see if/when he arrives). I wish he never left to the KHL, but I'm not as upset about it as some seem to be. Players can develop in the KHL, just like in any league in the world. Some don't make it through the AHL and some fizzle out at the NHL level. I'm not concerned about where he's been developing as it looks like his progress has been decent. Cautiously optimistic is where I would stand, but for me, I feel he should be ready to step in and be impactful. Even if he was a 3rd pairing dman here that can play up his minutes, that's at worst more depth for the team. This was where he left off with us, so I feel he can only go up from there based on his level of play improving during his time in the KHL. Just an update.. Tryamkin has 4 points in his last 4 games. His Team Avtomobilist, currently out of a playoff spot. Tryamkin has been an Ironman for his team this season,. I think he is definitely coming into his prime, yet his ceiling is untouched until he gets to the NHL and completes his dream. EDIT - Edit : 3 points in last 3 games,. Sorry guys just double checked. Edited December 15, 2019 by SilentSam 1 1 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appleboy Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 When dose their season wrap up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeneedLumme Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 2 hours ago, SilentSam said: Just an update.. Tryamkin has 4 points in his last 4 games. His Team Avtomobilist, currently out of a playoff spot. Tryamkin has been an Ironman for his team this season,. I think he is definitely coming into his prime, yet his ceiling is untouched until he gets to the NHL and completes his dream. Seriously, his offence is heating up and his team may miss the playoffs? That's exactly what I want to hear - you aren't just toying with us are you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, appleboy said: When dose their season wrap up? End of February. Technically, Tryamkins Contract expires when his playing season has finished. Edited December 15, 2019 by SilentSam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 9 minutes ago, WeneedLumme said: Seriously, his offence is heating up and his team may miss the playoffs? That's exactly what I want to hear - you aren't just toying with us are you? Weed! My apologies I just double checked.. 3 points in last 3 games.. perhaps I got it wrong or there was a change on the box score site I visited. https://www.google.ca/search?q=khl+avtomobilist&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-ca&client=safari#sie=t;/m/0464y75;7;/m/03ykpkx;mt;fp;1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeneedLumme Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, SilentSam said: Weed! My apologies I just double checked.. 3 points in last 3 games.. perhaps I got it wrong or there was a change on the box score site I visited. https://www.google.ca/search?q=khl+avtomobilist&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-ca&client=safari#sie=t;/m/0464y75;7;/m/03ykpkx;mt;fp;1 Hey, 3 points in his last 3 games is enough to make me happy, lol. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 On 12/10/2019 at 8:49 PM, Me_ said: Pietrangelo is apparently being shopped... STL isn't trading their Cup winning Captain and stud #1 Dman. They're trying to win another Cup this season not rebuilding. They'll try to sign him to extension. There's a small chance he leaves as UFA at end of season if another team throws the check book at him but he's not getting traded. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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