Elias Pettersson 6,434 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 22 minutes ago, VancouverHabitant said: More then a year of experience! Tryamkin will be fine if/when he signs back with us. I still don’t see the cap space for us to sign him through. 3 mil/season is a conservative estimate for his salary. We don’t have any room going into next season. If Tryamkin takes Tanev's spot and Rafferty takes Stecher's spot there is plenty of room. I know some people think we are going to re-sign Tanev but I doubt that will happen if Tryamkin comes back and signs a long term deal. Also, Ferland may stay on LTIR, giving us an extra $3.5 million. And who knows, maybe Benning has a side deal where Loui retires. But in any event, without Tanev, Stecher (most likely traded), Schaller and Leivo we can re-sign Gaudette, Virtanen, Markstrom and bring in Tryamkin and Rafferty. I doubt Benning goes after any UFA's next summer though. I think we will be focused on integrating our youth into the lineup. Hoglander could be another one to make the big club. And there is Kole Lind. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post SilentSam 6,950 Posted December 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 27, 2019 1 hour ago, theo5789 said: I think he would need to readjust from the WD era to the Green era assuming there are differences in approach. There are new players now and simply adjusting to being here. I agree that it shouldn't take as long though because he should have a better idea of what to expect here outside of the rink and hopefully be more prepared this time around, so he can focus on his game. I don't think he will have the conditioning issue like he did last time as well, but I expect a gradual minute progression before he becomes a top 4 (assuming he gets there). 1 hour ago, WeneedLumme said: Sure there are adjustments to be made when moving to a new team/coach, but there is obviously no massive adjustment to be made due to the league, since the KHL has been changing to be more like the NHL (specifically ice size) and he already has a full year's experience in the NHL. Guys, guys, guys, .... it was right under our noses all along and we didn’t see it?.?.... Travis Green is from Castlegar, there MUST be Borscht in his belly and Doukhobor in his veins . 1 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gawdzukes 1,553 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 3 hours ago, WeneedLumme said: It takes time to adapt to things one has not experienced before. That is not the case here. You can guess whatever you like, but I see no reason, nor have you presented any, why it would take him a year to adapt to something he is already familiar with. I would say the NHL is extremely difficult. I don't feel that it's something you can leave for 2 years and just jump in like you never left. I would be happy to be wrong but I just think it's going to be a stretch to think he can just just jump back into the NHL. I guess I read it differently than most. I thought he made great strides by the end of the year but thought he had some serious struggles on the way. He's going to have to relearn some things, including playing for a new coach, with new teammates in a far different Canucks teams. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Hairy Kneel 7,927 Posted December 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 28, 2019 (edited) Watched today's game. One really good hit by Try. When he hits it looks like he's not really trying. He slammed his guy into the boards the guy bounced off (similar to his Pirri hit against Anaheim) then as they continued the guy haphazardly gets in Tryamkins way again and he gets shoved down to the ice, ragdoll style. I don't think it will take Tryamkin long to adjust, especially the hitting part. They lost 4-3 in OT. I don't think Tryamkin was on the ice for any goals against. I hope they miss the playoffs and then he's available right away. Edited January 1, 2020 by Hairy Kneel 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Captain Canuck #12 564 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Hairy Kneel said: Watched today's game. One really good hit by Try. When he hits it looks like he's not really trying. He slammed his guy into the boards the guy bounced off (similar to his Pirri hit against Anaheim) then as they continued the guy haphazardly gets in Tryamkins way again and he gets shoved down to the ice, ragdoll style. I don't think it will take Tryamkin long to adjust, especially the hitting part. They lost 4-3 in OT. I don't think Tryamkin was on the ice for any goals against. I hope the miss the playoffs and then he's available right away. He might just have some trouble adjusting to the retribution that always follows throwing a big hit in today's NHL. He should be able to handle himself against most players, but it will be interesting to see what happens when Reaves, Wilson or even Chara comes after him to 'avenge' a hit thrown on one of their teammates. I'm not sure if his size advantage will be enough to overcome their fistic experience advantage. And if he does get beaten in a fight, how will he respond? Will he stop throwing hits? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
theo5789 11,431 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 5 hours ago, Captain Canuck #12 said: He might just have some trouble adjusting to the retribution that always follows throwing a big hit in today's NHL. He should be able to handle himself against most players, but it will be interesting to see what happens when Reaves, Wilson or even Chara comes after him to 'avenge' a hit thrown on one of their teammates. I'm not sure if his size advantage will be enough to overcome their fistic experience advantage. And if he does get beaten in a fight, how will he respond? Will he stop throwing hits? On the other hand, perhaps it would nice to have a guy that could possibly match up against a Reaves or Wilson, so they don't take liberties on us. Wilson is a dirtier player and Reaves is probably the best fighter in the game, but we don't have anyone close that can match up to them now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
theo5789 11,431 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 7 hours ago, Gawdzukes said: I would say the NHL is extremely difficult. I don't feel that it's something you can leave for 2 years and just jump in like you never left. I would be happy to be wrong but I just think it's going to be a stretch to think he can just just jump back into the NHL. I guess I read it differently than most. I thought he made great strides by the end of the year but thought he had some serious struggles on the way. He's going to have to relearn some things, including playing for a new coach, with new teammates in a far different Canucks teams. Players jump into the NHL all the time from various leagues and perform well. There will be an adjustment period, but it won't be as long as his first time around. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Hairy Kneel 7,927 Posted December 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 28, 2019 12 hours ago, Captain Canuck #12 said: He might just have some trouble adjusting to the retribution that always follows throwing a big hit in today's NHL. He should be able to handle himself against most players, but it will be interesting to see what happens when Reaves, Wilson or even Chara comes after him to 'avenge' a hit thrown on one of their teammates. I'm not sure if his size advantage will be enough to overcome their fistic experience advantage. And if he does get beaten in a fight, how will he respond? Will he stop throwing hits? He's already seen the uglier after the whistle stuff his first season here. It was funny his first season back in the KHL he was in beast mode and I think their coaches toned him down some. He already has a rivalry with a couple players here. And I think he will handle the after works better with Roussel giving him pointers. Plus he could bear hug Reaves through the boards if he needed to. That was a good sized forward he ragdolled yesterday. Plus his hits are clean hits which can be devastating and if he hit with malice like Wilson? Beware because he's got a real protective streak. He's injured guys on clean hits cause he's a heavy hitter. 2 1 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boudrias 7,275 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 15 hours ago, SilentSam said: Guys, guys, guys, .... it was right under our noses all along and we didn’t see it?.?.... Travis Green is from Castlegar, there MUST be Borscht in his belly and Doukhobor in his veins . Nope, Travis didn't sing in the Doukhobor choir or play for the Rebels. He did play for the Jr. SmokeEaters who had a number of the World Champion SmokeEaters involved with the team. The Rebels had a young kid named Chernoff, if memory serves, who was an incredible talent. One of those stories where his talented far exceded his ability to overcome personal problems. Travis had a lot of support and good family. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SilentSam 6,950 Posted December 28, 2019 Share Posted December 28, 2019 3 hours ago, Boudrias said: Nope, Travis didn't sing in the Doukhobor choir or play for the Rebels. He did play for the Jr. SmokeEaters who had a number of the World Champion SmokeEaters involved with the team. The Rebels had a young kid named Chernoff, if memory serves, who was an incredible talent. One of those stories where his talented far exceded his ability to overcome personal problems. Travis had a lot of support and good family. My comments were in light humour Bouds’, If Castlegar was truly his home, I know historically there was, and still exists a presence of the Russian Doukhabor community spread throughout the Kootenays. No doubt that Green would have friends from his childhood and youth who were of a, or almost direct Russian descent. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Googlie 4,521 Posted December 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 28, 2019 Would be interesting to see him paired with Myers - in front of Marky and behind MacEwen-Graovac-Bailey. The average height would be 6'6" Followed by Hughes and Stecher in front of Mikey, and behind Palmu-Motte-Hog, where the average height is 5'6" {I exaggerate - 5'9"} 2 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SilentSam 6,950 Posted December 29, 2019 Share Posted December 29, 2019 14 hours ago, Hairy Kneel said: He's already seen the uglier after the whistle stuff his first season here. It was funny his first season back in the KHL he was in beast mode and I think their coaches toned him down some. He already has a rivalry with a couple players here. And I think he will handle the after works better with Roussel giving him pointers. Plus he could bear hug Reaves through the boards if he needed to. That was a good sized forward he ragdolled yesterday. Plus his hits are clean hits which can be devastating and if he hit with malice like Wilson? Beware because he's got a real protective streak. He's injured guys on clean hits cause he's a heavy hitter. ... not a bad defensive end tactic to demolish a guy in with a hit,. Get the stop in play,. and reset with a faceoff ?.? he did it with Richardson.. and a few others out of frustration of getting hit hard went after him. kids a beauty,. Be gnarly when he’s pissed. !, 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Elias Pettersson 6,434 Posted December 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 29, 2019 On 12/27/2019 at 5:14 PM, Captain Canuck #12 said: He might just have some trouble adjusting to the retribution that always follows throwing a big hit in today's NHL. He should be able to handle himself against most players, but it will be interesting to see what happens when Reaves, Wilson or even Chara comes after him to 'avenge' a hit thrown on one of their teammates. I'm not sure if his size advantage will be enough to overcome their fistic experience advantage. And if he does get beaten in a fight, how will he respond? Will he stop throwing hits? Chara will be retired in a year or two. Reaves is only 6’1” so Tryamkin can learn what Chara has learned which is to use his long reach to take away the opponent’s right hand punch. Wilson is a tough guy but if Tryamkin ever learned to box he could be a nasty piece of business. Tryamkin can hurt guys with legal hits, just like Wilson. He’s not big, he’s actually a giant. Just look at his head and his hands and his feet. He’s more like 7’0” than 6’7” in terms of his overall body. And he’s much heavier than Chara or Wilson. 2 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Boudrias 7,275 Posted December 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 29, 2019 19 hours ago, SilentSam said: My comments were in light humour Bouds’, If Castlegar was truly his home, I know historically there was, and still exists a presence of the Russian Doukhabor community spread throughout the Kootenays. No doubt that Green would have friends from his childhood and youth who were of a, or almost direct Russian descent. My comments are a weak attempt at humor. My wife comes from Blueberry Creek and her mother knew the Green family well. In those days and even today the Doukhabor community is a big part of the area. When Larionov played for the Canucks he traveled to Grand Forks and spent time there. Not sure if he made it to Castlegar. My take on Larionov is that he is a solid influence on Goldy, Pouds and I hope Tryamkin. Seeing him on the bench at the WJC is a great sight. 5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post SilentSam 6,950 Posted December 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 30, 2019 On 12/27/2019 at 4:02 PM, Hairy Kneel said: Watched today's game. One really good hit by Try. When he hits it looks like he's not really trying. He slammed his guy into the boards the guy bounced off (similar to his Pirri hit against Anaheim) then as they continued the guy haphazardly gets in Tryamkins way again and he gets shoved down to the ice, ragdoll style. I don't think it will take Tryamkin long to adjust, especially the hitting part. They lost 4-3 in OT. I don't think Tryamkin was on the ice for any goals against. I hope the miss the playoffs and then he's available right away. Avto lost yesterday as well,. And their next 3 games are against the 3 teams directly positioned after Avtomobilist. Avto 2nd in their div, but only 5 points to drop them out of playoff contention. 21 regular season games remaining,. Last one is Feb. 27 th. Then.. ?? 2 2 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post HockeyHarry 1,885 Posted December 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2019 So I guess we’re close to starting the count down to Big Tryms return. i can’t wait to see him in a Canuck Uni again. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Stierlitz 3,616 Posted December 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2019 Hmm Tryamkin on 4th position for the most powerful shots in the KHL in the last week with 163.4 km per hr... 3 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Stierlitz 3,616 Posted December 31, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 31, 2019 Some body work by Nikita 1 2 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SilentSam 6,950 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Stierlitz said: Hmm Tryamkin on 4th position for the most powerful shots in the KHL in the last week with 163.4 km per hr... For us old West Coast Loggers, that rounds out like: 164 kilometres per hour = 101.905 miles per hour. That will give a mountain a Mowhawk. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
theo5789 11,431 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 4 hours ago, Stierlitz said: Hmm Tryamkin on 4th position for the most powerful shots in the KHL in the last week with 163.4 km per hr... Who are the other players on the list? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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