Provost Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 4 hours ago, Ray_Cathode said: It’s possible that Tanev won’t be back, but depending on how the NHL sets up its cap, he might be. If they don’t do something to alleviate the problems, almost every UFA is going to be signing for $1 million or less because there isn’t enough money in the system to pay them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 11 hours ago, BarnBurner said: More than likely, yes. But I was both surprised and impressed how he handled, and beat Connor Murphy, who was 3 inches taller and 40 lbs heavier. Gaudette's got a lot of fight in him, which bodes well for our team, as does adding Tryamkin! Absolutely love the way AG has been getting better with us.. that was/ is a fantastic season for him.. inspires trust in a Coach to utilize him in other areas and assignments, and to trust other young men ( eg.MacEwan) in their growth. I was pleasantly surprised with his “go” moment with Murphy. really hope all of our Utica/ Canuck Team members take their training to a new level on this unfortunate hiatus from “the game”.. it is training that defines your career in sports ask a player like Z Chara, or S Doan.. and it’s that physical discipline that create the mental edge to look straight ahead to your goals. If, and or when Tryamkin arrives I hope he becomes the best that he possibly can here.. there is so much potential in him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: Tanev has certainly earned a NTC. This reminds me a lot of the decision to move on frrom Hamhuis, its a tough one. Tanev still has a ton of value but can we afford to keep him long term? I still think it might be Stecher thats on the bubble and is a casualty of the cap which is a shame since he plays with everything he's got. Yes I agree i is a very tough decision between resigning Tanev and/or Stech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borvat Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said: If we weren’t in cap hell (I think we’re currently in about the 3rd Circle of Benning’s Inferno ), I’d be all for re-signing Tanev. Unfortunately, we’re probably gonna need to save some money somewhere, and the right side D might be the place. Stecher should be at least a couple million bucks cheaper than Tanev, and he can hold down a top-4 role. Myers, of course, isn’t going anywhere. Rafferty and Tryamkin (assuming he’s back and on a reasonable contract) can rotate in on the right side of the third pairing. Certainly, that right side would look a lot better with Tanev on it, but I’m just not sure we can afford him. If Stecher is "holding down" a top 4 role I am not very confident in the Canucks top 4 - especially if they have serious playoff aspirations. He is at best a bottom pairing D on a good D corp. I like Stecher but Stecher in the top 4 is not good for the Canucks prospects of being a serious playoff contender in my opinion. Edited April 12, 2020 by Borvat 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slegr Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 We're getting so close to Tryamkin being free of his KHL contract. Exciting times. It does feel like now that the next Canucks' game played will have him in the line-up. There are so many exciting pieces to this team, and so much potential. Whenever things do get going again, this is such a fun team to watch now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Tryamkin checks the right boxes for our D. √√ Thus shortening the shopping list for JB. And more importantly, shortening the adjustments needed for the coaching staff. All the big forwards who give us trouble, St Louis, Draistle, or the Jets, throw Tryamkin out there to stimey them. (With Myers or Rathbone or a hometown discount Stecher? maybe). He'll clear them out of the crease. Maybe spend the Tanev money on another big good skating D man. UFA or trade. I feel the chemistry of our make up will be getting better balanced ie size and skill, snarl and skill Overall its one less thing to worry about. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKnight Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 26 minutes ago, Hairy Kneel said: Tryamkin checks the right boxes for our D. √√ Thus shortening the shopping list for JB. And more importantly, shortening the adjustments needed for the coaching staff. All the big forwards who give us trouble, St Louis, Draistle, or the Jets, throw Tryamkin out there to stimey them. (With Myers or Rathbone or a hometown discount Stecher? maybe). He'll clear them out of the crease. Maybe spend the Tanev money on another big good skating D man. UFA or trade. I feel the chemistry of our make up will be getting better balanced ie size and skill, snarl and skill Overall its one less thing to worry about. If St.Louis resigns Pietrangelo. I want us to go after Parayko. We compliance buyout Eriksson. Let Tanev walk. Find a suitor at with maybe 50% retention on Baertschi. Find a Suitor for Sutts. Re-sign Marky, Toffoli. Trade for Parayko. Use Stech in a package for Parayko. Miller - Pete - Toffoli/Boeser Pearson - Bo - Boeser/Toffoli Ferland - Gauds - Virtanen Roussel - Beagle - MacEwen ex. Motte, ? Hughes - Parayko Edler - Rafferty Tryamkin - Myers Marky Demko 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post theo5789 Posted April 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 13, 2020 1 hour ago, KKnight said: Use Stech in a package for Parayko. GM of the year right here everyone. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, KKnight said: If St.Louis resigns Pietrangelo. I want us to go after Parayko. We compliance buyout Eriksson. Let Tanev walk. Find a suitor at with maybe 50% retention on Baertschi. Find a Suitor for Sutts. Re-sign Marky, Toffoli. Trade for Parayko. Use Stech in a package for Parayko. Miller - Pete - Toffoli/Boeser Pearson - Bo - Boeser/Toffoli Ferland - Gauds - Virtanen Roussel - Beagle - MacEwen ex. Motte, ? Hughes - Parayko Edler - Rafferty Tryamkin - Myers Marky Demko Demko wins 25 games as a back up and gets us a 1st and 2nd plus prospect, Ferland , gets maybe 30-40 games and then back on LITR. $ saves some cap. Gone are: Tanev, Stech,LE, Baer, and Sutter. (and release/demote Schaller) and Lievo kept as our extra forward. Fantenburgh as a low cost 7th Dman *It's going to be impossible to get Pieterangelo, and tough to get Parayko, but I'd like the Surrey boy Dillon. He's tough. And probably would sign to be close to home. Edited April 13, 2020 by Hairy Kneel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV's Coin Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 9 hours ago, Jimmy McGill said: Tanev has certainly earned a NTC. This reminds me a lot of the decision to move on from Hamhuis, its a tough one. Tanev still has a ton of value but can we afford to keep him long term? I still think it might be Stecher thats on the bubble and is a casualty of the cap which is a shame since he plays with everything he's got. Why did we not sign Hamhuis, or did he decide to leave because we attempted to trade him and failed? He surely would have been better then some of the defenders we had in the following years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 1 hour ago, AV's Coin said: Why did we not sign Hamhuis, or did he decide to leave because we attempted to trade him and failed? He surely would have been better then some of the defenders we had in the following years. He's been around for awhile now. Hasn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 1 hour ago, AV's Coin said: Why did we not sign Hamhuis, or did he decide to leave because we attempted to trade him and failed? He surely would have been better then some of the defenders we had in the following years. I believe it was a shift of mentality to start re-tooling. We obviously had told Hamhuis we were ready to move on from him in trying to trade him rather than simply extending him. This was demonstrated as we started moving on from other vets like Hansen and Burrows the following year as well. Also, at the time Hutton looked like he was an up and coming young dman ready for a bigger role after leading the defense in scoring (with Edler out for a lengthy period of the season also). We were also tight against the cap, so with Hamhuis getting a 3.75 million offer from Dallas, it wasn't like we could afford him to potentially be a bottom pairing dman with Edler and Hutton in the top 2 LD on paper. Hamhuis was a shell of his former self much of his time after he left the Canucks and didn't really do much for Dallas or Nashville in taking them to another level. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKnight Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 3 hours ago, theo5789 said: GM of the year right here everyone. Thanks man. I appreciate your trust in my guidance of the franchise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 18 hours ago, Hairy Kneel said: Tryamkin checks the right boxes for our D. √√ Thus shortening the shopping list for JB. And more importantly, shortening the adjustments needed for the coaching staff. All the big forwards who give us trouble, St Louis, Draistle, or the Jets, throw Tryamkin out there to stimey them. (With Myers or Rathbone or a hometown discount Stecher? maybe). He'll clear them out of the crease. Maybe spend the Tanev money on another big good skating D man. UFA or trade. I feel the chemistry of our make up will be getting better balanced ie size and skill, snarl and skill Overall its one less thing to worry about. Other than Pietrangelo, there aren't really any upgrades on Tanev in free agency. If we're making an improvement there, it's almost certainly trade IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, aGENT said: Other than Pietrangelo, there aren't really any upgrades on Tanev in free agency. If we're making an improvement there, it's almost certainly trade IMO. Ya, it is hard to remember that Tanev and Stecher represent two of the better options available. It is going to be hard to upgrade our defence next year even if we had the money. It may be adding Rafferty and Tryamkin and hoping for the best. Edited April 13, 2020 by Provost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 9 minutes ago, Provost said: Ya, it is hard to remember that Tanev and Stecher represent two of the better options available. It is going to be hard to upgrade our defence next year even if we had the money. It may be adding Rafferty and Tryamkin and hoping for the best. Yeah there's pretty much Vatanen and he'd be largely a lateral move from Tanev, is injured just as much, likely cost more and be a hit in the leadership department. So that's a non starter IMO Adding Tryamkin and some of Rafferty, Brisebois, Juolevi, Sautner etc should offer some level of change/improvement. I also think Myers continues to get more comfortable. But yes any meaningful/big change will have to come from a trade. Something like Virtanen, Stecher and a prospect for...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 (edited) Some D UFA's: Brodie 6'2" 4.6m, Kulikov 6'1",4.5m, (Det)Ericsson 6'4" 4.2m, Scandella 6'3", 4.0m, Braun 6'2" 3.8m, Dillon 6'4", 3.2m, Dillon w 30 NHL fights Edmunson 6'4",3.1m, Forbert 6'4"2.5m, K. Miller 6'2", 2.5m Polak6'1" 230lbs,1.7m, Stone 6'3",1.2m, Petrovic 6'4" .7m These are d man that we can consider. Pieterangelo/Parayko will probably resign. Vatanen is too small we already have Huggy. Edited April 14, 2020 by Hairy Kneel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 19 hours ago, Hairy Kneel said: Demko wins 25 games as a back up and gets us a 1st and 2nd plus prospect, Ferland , gets maybe 30-40 games and then back on LITR. $ saves some cap. Gone are: Tanev, Stech,LE, Baer, and Sutter. (and release/demote Schaller) and Lievo kept as our extra forward. Fantenburgh as a low cost 7th Dman *It's going to be impossible to get Pieterangelo, and tough to get Parayko, but I'd like the Surrey boy Dillon. He's tough. And probably would sign to be close to home. Schaller isn't a Canuck, was traded to LA for Toffoli. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo5789 Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 3 hours ago, Hairy Kneel said: Some D UFA's: Brodie 6'2" 4.6m, Kulikov 6'1",4.5m, (Det)Ericsson 6'4" 4.2m, Scandella 6'3", 4.0m, Braun 6'2" 3.8m, Dillon 6'4", 3.2m, Edmunson 6'4",3.1m, Forbert 6'4"2.5m, K. Miller 6'2", 2.5m Polak6'1" 230lbs,1.7m, Stone 6'3",1.2m, Petrovic 6'4" .7m These are d man that we can consider. Pieterangelo/Parayko will probably resign. Vatanen is too small we already have Huggy. To replace Tanev? Half the list are LD (as long as we have Benn, we aren't adding here) and the rest are nowhere near Tanev's level of defense except those who are not much savings on Tanev. To replace Stecher, I am hoping that would be Tryamkin (and hopefully he will become good enough to take over some of Tanev's minutes to ease his workload). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 56 minutes ago, theo5789 said: To replace Tanev? Half the list are LD (as long as we have Benn, we aren't adding here) and the rest are nowhere near Tanev's level of defense except those who are not much savings on Tanev. To replace Stecher, I am hoping that would be Tryamkin (and hopefully he will become good enough to take over some of Tanev's minutes to ease his workload). If we got a couple compliance buyouts I wouldn't mind an Edmundson/Dillon in the top 6 with Tryamkin. Would be a killer pairing that could eat up minutes defensively/PK. I trust Edmundson/Dillon to step up into the top 4 if injuries hit. I'd also re-sign Tanev as well and have a strong D-core. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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