Nuxfanabroad Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Calling it right now..they're making a mistake. Lock this kid in, if you can. 3-5 yrs, at 2.75 to 3 mill. Do it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroCanuck Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 14 minutes ago, Nuxfanabroad said: Calling it right now..they're making a mistake. Lock this kid in, if you can. 3-5 yrs, at 2.75 to 3 mill. Do it. I agree, but I understand Tryamkin's thinking. Sign him on a 1 year deal. You dont want a guy thats uncomfortable, stressed and out of place. If his wife unhappy his play will suffer. Let them come over and get accustomed to our beautiful province. They wont want to change teams if they have just gotten used to Vancouver and North America as a whole 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 1 hour ago, qwijibo said: Absolute no to Tanev on a multi-year deal. Unless it's at one hell of a discount. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 22 hours ago, VancouverHabitant said: Look at Nikita Zadorov. He played about the same number of games as Tryamkin when he signed his second contract which paid him out 4.3 mil/2 years. Zadorov was also younger when he signed it (players get more expensive with age, especially in the 20s). There's a point when they haven't negatively affected their potential that they can still get a good increase. As they get past their mid-twenties then they start to get paid based more on NHL performance vs potential. And of course this current situation is not normal, so there's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeneedLumme Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 14 hours ago, qwijibo said: That sounds way more plausible than some of the silly suggestions/speculation here about both those players. No way Tram would sign a $1M contract, nor can I imagine him agreeing to a long term contract for $2 - 3M/year. Nor would Tanev, at this point in his career, sign a one year deal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 What if the players union and owners organized a reduction in pay for one season? The top 50% of higher paid players take a 10-20 wage cut for one season till we get over covid losses. Sign all our bottom players at covid rates. Till revenues are figured out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanukfanatic Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 On 6/9/2020 at 6:17 PM, D-Money said: Absolute no to Tanev on a multi-year deal. Unless it's at one hell of a discount. ...YEAH...why would you want to keep your best defensive D man that just had a great season playing with Hughes..... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoKnows Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, Kanukfanatic said: ...YEAH...why would you want to keep your best defensive D man that just had a great season playing with Hughes..... lol To be fair, Tanev is on the wrong side of 30 and has only played 70 games in a season once. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 55 minutes ago, Kanukfanatic said: ...YEAH...why would you want to keep your best defensive D man that just had a great season playing with Hughes..... lol 1) Always injured 2) Aging 3) His numbers away from Hughes were not good I'd argue that almost any D-man would have had a great season playing with Hughes. He's the most talented offensive blue-liner in the history of the franchise. We may even get veteran RHDs lining up for cheap 1-year deals to play with him and boost their stats. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Kanukfanatic said: ...YEAH...why would you want to keep your best defensive D man that just had a great season playing with Hughes..... lol Anybody including Peter Puck would have a great season playing with Hughes,. except you. Edited June 11, 2020 by SilentSam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 2 hours ago, BoKnows said: To be fair, Tanev is on the wrong side of 30 and has only played 70 games in a season once. and a total of about 6 ? playoff games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 If we get rid of Tanev we need to replace him. Otherwise we are gonna be worse off next year. So either we trade Boeser/Virtanen for a top 4 RD or sign one in UFA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Junkyard Dog said: If we get rid of Tanev we need to replace him. Otherwise we are gonna be worse off next year. So either we trade Boeser/Virtanen for a top 4 RD or sign one in UFA. Boeser for Ristolienen and a 2nd. or Boeser for a First round pick.. and then Tanev and Boesers cap hit serves purpose to Toffoli and Petriangelo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 23 minutes ago, SilentSam said: Boeser for Ristolienen and a 2nd. or Boeser for a First round pick.. and then Tanev and Boesers cap hit serves purpose to Toffoli and Petriangelo. I’m a little confused by your valuations. A 1st for Boeser seems realistic (not top 10, but beyond that, definitely ). But a big young 40 point top 2/3 D plus a high 2nd seems like a massive overpay by Buffalo. I’d think even straight up would be a stretch considering how much teams value D compared to wingers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 18 minutes ago, SilentSam said: Boeser for Ristolienen and a 2nd. or Boeser for a First round pick.. and then Tanev and Boesers cap hit serves purpose to Toffoli and Petriangelo. Would be putting faith in youngsters to succeed. I am not opposed to trading Boeser/Virtanen for a D when one of the youngsters prove ready but perhaps we won't have that luxury. I do really like Risto Peaches would be a pipe dream. My pipe dream would be to get two compliance buyouts, use them on Eriksson and Myers, sign Peaches, Tofu, and Tanman. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTramFan Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 27 minutes ago, SilentSam said: Boeser for Ristolienen and a 2nd. or Boeser for a First round pick.. and then Tanev and Boesers cap hit serves purpose to Toffoli and Petriangelo. As long as Toffoli is resigned then: Boeser + Stecher rights for Savard + J Anderson rights 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, BigTramFan said: As long as Toffoli is resigned then: Boeser + Stecher rights for Savard + J Anderson rights You must really value Savard and Anderson or don't value Boeser that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTramFan Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Junkyard Dog said: You must really value Savard and Anderson or don't value Boeser that much. I value them all, but Savard is a slightly younger, cheaper, bigger, grittier and more offensive version of Tanev, with playoff experience. Anderson is built for the playoffs (6'3", 220lb), good friend of Horvat's and would be a great addition on Horvat's line. He is RFA earning $1.85m currently, has had a down year so will be able to be signed for low $, I am not concerned about the down year, he has serious skills and is gritty AF. I don't want to lose Boeser, but I would do it for those two guys and only if Toffoli is resigned because I feel that Toffoli can fill the role that Boeser plays on the Canucks top line. Miller Pettersson Toffoli Pearson Horvat Anderson Virtanen Gaudette MacEwen Roussel Beagle Motte Sutter Hughes Savard Edler Myers Benn Tryamkin Rafferty Markstrom Demko Edited June 11, 2020 by BigTramFan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 14 minutes ago, BigTramFan said: I value them all, but Savard is a slightly younger, cheaper, bigger, grittier and more offensive version of Tanev, with playoff experience. Anderson is built for the playoffs (6'3", 220lb), good friend of Horvat's and would be a great addition on Horvat's line. He is RFA earning $1.85m currently, has had a down year so will be able to be signed for low $, I am not concerned about the down year, he has serious skills and is gritty AF. I don't want to lose Boeser, but I would do it for those two guys and only if Toffoli is resigned because I feel that Toffoli can fill the role that Boeser plays on the Canucks top line. Miller Pettersson Toffoli Pearson Horvat Anderson Virtanen Gaudette MacEwen Roussel Beagle Motte Sutter Hughes Savard Edler Myers Benn Tryamkin Rafferty Markstrom Demko Down year? Anderson sustained a major season ending injury and has had an injury plagued season. He had surgery back in March and the estimated recovery was 4-6 months. We might want to stay clear of that. He's also 26. Savard is also a UFA in 2021, so we'd have him for a year, and is only a year younger than Tanev at 29. Personally I think we can do a lot better and younger considering we're giving up a core piece, we need to get a core piece back 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 1 hour ago, BigTramFan said: I value them all, but Savard is a slightly younger, cheaper, bigger, grittier and more offensive version of Tanev, with playoff experience. Anderson is built for the playoffs (6'3", 220lb), good friend of Horvat's and would be a great addition on Horvat's line. He is RFA earning $1.85m currently, has had a down year so will be able to be signed for low $, I am not concerned about the down year, he has serious skills and is gritty AF. I don't want to lose Boeser, but I would do it for those two guys and only if Toffoli is resigned because I feel that Toffoli can fill the role that Boeser plays on the Canucks top line. Miller Pettersson Toffoli Pearson Horvat Anderson Virtanen Gaudette MacEwen Roussel Beagle Motte Sutter Hughes Savard Edler Myers Benn Tryamkin Rafferty Markstrom Demko Whoa..that's my kinda team! Interesting ideas man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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