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1 hour ago, coastal.view said:

i find this thread annoying

particularly for it's many many pages of discussion

about a player who had a fairly brief playing career with the nucks to date

 

 

for some perspective

i have quickly reviewed posting in this thread based on the phases of tryamkin's career development since the thread started

i encourage people to review this thread on their own and point out where i am incorrect in my review

 

breaking down the thread:

page 1 - june 28, 2014, tryam is drafted and is now a nuck prospect, and this thread starts

page 50 (or so) - january 15, 2016 - discussion starts about tryam joining the nuck team for the end of the 2015/16 season (the next 80 pages are about his joining the team that season, and some after that season discussion)

page 132 - the first post on this page is june 3, 2016

page 132 - the next post is october 20, 2016

page 132 - post by Silent Sam on October 21, 2016 - is the last post in 2016, and tryam is still sorting out his conditioning issues before he will be back on the team roster and playing again this particular season

page 132 - there is no other post during the entire season

page 132 - the next post is on May 7, 2017, after tryam already left the team and signed in the khl

 

page 132 - 545 - huge amount of discussion when tryam no longer contributed anything to the team

 

this thread was crickets when tryam actually contributed on the ice to the nucks in the 2016/17 season

there was nothing worthy of posting or discussion it seems

 

am i the only one?

doesn't this level of attention post tryam leaving the team feel just a tad distorted to anyone else?

and i do know that there were discussion about tryam and his various issues in other threads

 

but every player has a player thread (and also has other threads posted about a current issue impacting that player)

go ahead and review any other important player's thread there is unbroken discussion about them continually

go look at ep40, brock, hughes, edler - pick anyone

and it seems if there is not that sort of posting

it reflects the importance status of the player at that time

 

this evolving narrative, that i see in this thread, about tryam's importance to the team seems to contain so much hype based on speculation and hope of some posters on here

i simply find it baffling, a bit twisted

and annoying

 

Why wouldn't you highlight any of his positives. His duels with Benn or the Ducks. His scrap with a fellow ruskie defending Shore. How he helped settle down the bottom pairing when dumbass finally played him?

So basically what you did was make a mud pie of his thread and called it a substantiated viewpoint. 

Brock,Hughes,Edler? Tryamkin was a THIRD ROUND PICK. He was increasing his value as he played. What about him crushing Richardson in half breaking his leg without even trying? Why was he one of our leaders in hits?

Anyone can compare all star first rounder threads with long shot third rounders and look smart. Why even bother coming on a thread than to just leave a huge dump.

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7 minutes ago, Hairy Kneel said:

Why wouldn't you highlight any of his positives. His duels with Benn or the Ducks. His scrap with a fellow ruskie defending Shore. How he helped settle down the bottom pairing when dumbass finally played him?

So basically what you did was make a mud pie of his thread and called it a substantiated viewpoint. 

Brock,Hughes,Edler? Tryamkin was a THIRD ROUND PICK. He was increasing his value as he played. What about him crushing Richardson in half breaking his leg without even trying? Why was he one of our leaders in hits?

Anyone can compare all star first rounder threads with long shot third rounders and look smart. Why even bother coming on a thread than to just leave a huge dump.

i said not 1 negative thing about tryamkin in my post

you have a need to read something negative into my post

my post was about how distorted this thread has been due to posters

i intentionally made no comment about the player

 

i believe tryamkin has potential

we just need to see how much of that he can in realize in the nhl

 

am not sure why my casual browsing of any and all threads on these boards

requires me to either jump on the bandwagon of posting incessantly about the topic of the thread

or simply shutting up

this thread is present a lot more then most threads here

i find that to be somewhat curious

and a bit odd as so much of the posting has taken place when he was not part of the team

i think my comments are relevant

 

i can understand why you might be offended personally about my comments

but deflecting them onto tryamkin

is a bit short sighted (and fixated) on your part

and so you have helped make my point about this thread

and for that i thank you

 

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You say his thread is annoying and he hasn't contributed to the team, he's a project. And we own his rights.  Why wouldn't we look at his upside especially after signing so many bottom feeder defensemen. He's a free asset. Who is your favorite D man after Hughes?

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7 hours ago, coastal.view said:

i find this thread annoying

particularly for it's many many pages of discussion

about a player who had a fairly brief playing career with the nucks to date

 

 

for some perspective

i have quickly reviewed posting in this thread based on the phases of tryamkin's career development since the thread started

i encourage people to review this thread on their own and point out where i am incorrect in my review

 

breaking down the thread:

page 1 - june 28, 2014, tryam is drafted and is now a nuck prospect, and this thread starts

page 50 (or so) - january 15, 2016 - discussion starts about tryam joining the nuck team for the end of the 2015/16 season (the next 80 pages are about his joining the team that season, and some after that season discussion)

page 132 - the first post on this page is june 3, 2016

page 132 - the next post is october 20, 2016

page 132 - post by Silent Sam on October 21, 2016 - is the last post in 2016, and tryam is still sorting out his conditioning issues before he will be back on the team roster and playing again this particular season

page 132 - there is no other post during the entire season

page 132 - the next post is on May 7, 2017, after tryam already left the team and signed in the khl

 

page 132 - 545 - huge amount of discussion when tryam no longer contributed anything to the team

 

this thread was crickets when tryam actually contributed on the ice to the nucks in the 2016/17 season

there was nothing worthy of posting or discussion it seems

 

am i the only one?

doesn't this level of attention post tryam leaving the team feel just a tad distorted to anyone else?

and i do know that there were discussion about tryam and his various issues in other threads

 

but every player has a player thread (and also has other threads posted about a current issue impacting that player)

go ahead and review any other important player's thread there is unbroken discussion about them continually

go look at ep40, brock, hughes, edler - pick anyone

and it seems if there is not that sort of posting

it reflects the importance status of the player at that time

 

this evolving narrative, that i see in this thread, about tryam's importance to the team seems to contain so much hype based on speculation and hope of some posters on here

i simply find it baffling, a bit twisted

and annoying

 

The blank period on this thread occurred when he was playing with the Canucks and thus no longer a prospect - this is the PROSPECT thread, he would have been transferred to the active player thread. Nobody discussed him on the prospect thread then because he wasn’t one, but there was a ton of discussion on his active thread when he was contributing to the team.

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11 hours ago, Provost said:

There is also word trickling out that the league would actually like to use this opportunity to have the season to start later for good.  Lots of US markets have to compete with lots of other sports in October and November.  Moving the season start until December permanently gets them away from competition that they aren't winning, both for ticket sales and TV broadcast windows.
 

So do you think the playoffs would go through the summer and end in late August every year?  I can't see the league going for that and the only way around it would be to shorten the season and/or the playoffs, which I can't see the league going for either.

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7 hours ago, coastal.view said:

i find this thread annoying

particularly for it's many many pages of discussion

about a player who had a fairly brief playing career with the nucks to date

 

 

for some perspective

i have quickly reviewed posting in this thread based on the phases of tryamkin's career development since the thread started

i encourage people to review this thread on their own and point out where i am incorrect in my review

 

breaking down the thread:

page 1 - june 28, 2014, tryam is drafted and is now a nuck prospect, and this thread starts

page 50 (or so) - january 15, 2016 - discussion starts about tryam joining the nuck team for the end of the 2015/16 season (the next 80 pages are about his joining the team that season, and some after that season discussion)

page 132 - the first post on this page is june 3, 2016

page 132 - the next post is october 20, 2016

page 132 - post by Silent Sam on October 21, 2016 - is the last post in 2016, and tryam is still sorting out his conditioning issues before he will be back on the team roster and playing again this particular season

page 132 - there is no other post during the entire season

page 132 - the next post is on May 7, 2017, after tryam already left the team and signed in the khl

 

page 132 - 545 - huge amount of discussion when tryam no longer contributed anything to the team

 

this thread was crickets when tryam actually contributed on the ice to the nucks in the 2016/17 season

there was nothing worthy of posting or discussion it seems

 

am i the only one?

doesn't this level of attention post tryam leaving the team feel just a tad distorted to anyone else?

and i do know that there were discussion about tryam and his various issues in other threads

 

but every player has a player thread (and also has other threads posted about a current issue impacting that player)

go ahead and review any other important player's thread there is unbroken discussion about them continually

go look at ep40, brock, hughes, edler - pick anyone

and it seems if there is not that sort of posting

it reflects the importance status of the player at that time

 

this evolving narrative, that i see in this thread, about tryam's importance to the team seems to contain so much hype based on speculation and hope of some posters on here

i simply find it baffling, a bit twisted

and annoying

 

I agree there is a lot of miss-information on here Coastal

 

I personally, take exception to people who evaluate Tryamkin on his first 1/2 season, and not on his progression during the season

I also take exception to people who do not recognize, that Tryamkin was a rookie

And I also take exception to people who discount his progression while back in the KHL

 

I think you are quite right to say, let's wait and see what we have, before jumping on the bandwagon

But at the same time feel that some of the arguments about his wife, and the coach at the time are pointless

and do not recognize that players and people in general mature, as has been evident in some of his quotable comments

 

Do I see him replacing Quinn Hughes...….no

Do I see the possibility of him being a solid Dman, better than a 5/6...…..yes

Do I think that we could use his defensive game and physical play...…………...yes, if it was at the level of his last 3 months he was here 

 

As you say, Time will tell

But in the mean time, people should recognize that there are many Russian players that come over hear and play good hockey

And do get paid decently upon their return

 

IMO, based on what I seen in the last 3 months of his term here, and his play and attributes shown in the KHL,

including being an temporary Captain and Alternate...….makes me believe he will be better than most think

 

I will defend my opinion with facts, and my , knowledge of the game, and life, when I see stupid comments, from people that IMO are just $hit disturbing. 

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1 hour ago, Ray_Cathode said:

The blank period on this thread occurred when he was playing with the Canucks and thus no longer a prospect - this is the PROSPECT thread, he would have been transferred to the active player thread. Nobody discussed him on the prospect thread then because he wasn’t one, but there was a ton of discussion on his active thread when he was contributing to the team.

well that makes way too much sense

thanks

that explains the oddness about it

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On 6/14/2020 at 5:28 PM, coastal.view said:

i find this thread annoying

particularly for it's many many pages of discussion

about a player who had a fairly brief playing career with the nucks to date

 

 

for some perspective

i have quickly reviewed posting in this thread based on the phases of tryamkin's career development since the thread started

i encourage people to review this thread on their own and point out where i am incorrect in my review

 

breaking down the thread:

page 1 - june 28, 2014, tryam is drafted and is now a nuck prospect, and this thread starts

page 50 (or so) - january 15, 2016 - discussion starts about tryam joining the nuck team for the end of the 2015/16 season (the next 80 pages are about his joining the team that season, and some after that season discussion)

page 132 - the first post on this page is june 3, 2016

page 132 - the next post is october 20, 2016

page 132 - post by Silent Sam on October 21, 2016 - is the last post in 2016, and tryam is still sorting out his conditioning issues before he will be back on the team roster and playing again this particular season

page 132 - there is no other post during the entire season

page 132 - the next post is on May 7, 2017, after tryam already left the team and signed in the khl

 

page 132 - 545 - huge amount of discussion when tryam no longer contributed anything to the team

 

this thread was crickets when tryam actually contributed on the ice to the nucks in the 2016/17 season

there was nothing worthy of posting or discussion it seems

 

am i the only one?

doesn't this level of attention post tryam leaving the team feel just a tad distorted to anyone else?

and i do know that there were discussion about tryam and his various issues in other threads

 

but every player has a player thread (and also has other threads posted about a current issue impacting that player)

go ahead and review any other important player's thread there is unbroken discussion about them continually

go look at ep40, brock, hughes, edler - pick anyone

and it seems if there is not that sort of posting

it reflects the importance status of the player at that time

 

this evolving narrative, that i see in this thread, about tryam's importance to the team seems to contain so much hype based on speculation and hope of some posters on here

i simply find it baffling, a bit twisted

and annoying

 

You sound like you need a hug and a brisk walk. 

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On 6/15/2020 at 12:10 AM, Ray_Cathode said:

The blank period on this thread occurred when he was playing with the Canucks and thus no longer a prospect - this is the PROSPECT thread, he would have been transferred to the active player thread. Nobody discussed him on the prospect thread then because he wasn’t one, but there was a ton of discussion on his active thread when he was contributing to the team.

I thought it was the same thread that gets moved from Prospects to Roster Players sub-forum? I could be wrong...

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3 hours ago, WeneedLumme said:

That seems a bit excessive to me. Solitary confinement with no internet access should be sufficient.

Sounds like social distancing lol...  I don’t think any of us have  grown any softer for it ;)

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11 hours ago, Vanuckles said:

I thought it was the same thread that gets moved from Prospects to Roster Players sub-forum? I could be wrong...

You are wrong, bad luck, joint the the enormous club of those occasionally wrong.  I am old enough and wrong enough to be a founding member... of course I could be wrong about that...

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On 6/16/2020 at 4:25 PM, WiDeN said:

You sound like you need a hug and a brisk walk. 

Oh yeah, just thought of something while thinking about Tryamkin’s active player thread, once he got out of what’s his name, the coach’s doghouse. The comments on Tryamkin got more and more positive and glowing up until the where he decided not to come back and be badly coached. At that point he suddenly became substandard, without talent, too soft for his size, a lousy passer, couldn’t skate, didn’t stand up for his teammates, and on and on and on... ‘Hell hath no fury like that of a woman scorned’ - describes about half of cdc at that point. As far as I can see, nobody knows what went on between player and management, all I care about is can he play. 

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It’s good to see Tryamkin is being patient so far and not signing with KHL. It must be a bit frustrating to him that he’ll need to wait until probably November at the earliest to play NHL hockey when the KHL is starting training camp shortly. That’s a long time not to be playing. 
He’ll be just what the doctor ordered after he win our first cup in October and our free agents sign lucrative deals with other clubs.

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11 hours ago, Slegr said:

It’s good to see Tryamkin is being patient so far and not signing with KHL. It must be a bit frustrating to him that he’ll need to wait until probably November at the earliest to play NHL hockey when the KHL is starting training camp shortly. That’s a long time not to be playing. 
He’ll be just what the doctor ordered after he win our first cup in October and our free agents sign lucrative deals with other clubs.

I can’t see him waiting for a league that isn’t even aiming on playing until January probably.

 

Why not get almost an entire KHL season under his belt and join us 20 games into our season.

 

Unless the NHL announces the cap and next seasons details in the next week, guys are going to just have to go sign KHL deals.

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9 hours ago, Provost said:

I can’t see him waiting for a league that isn’t even aiming on playing until January probably.

 

Why not get almost an entire KHL season under his belt and join us 20 games into our season.

 

Unless the NHL announces the cap and next seasons details in the next week, guys are going to just have to go sign KHL deals.

The KHL has black listed several NHL agents because they don't want them trying to bring players over to the NHL.  Would be surprised if the KHL will allow out clauses in the middle of the season.  They have a salary cap now and losing a good player is going to hurt their end of season and playoffs.  He's RFA so he has to sign by the new 1 December date - the KHL season will likely not be done by that new date unless the NHL starts so much later than January.  

 

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