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6 hours ago, mll said:

The NHL does not have a coverage for a pandemic.  Insurance companies need the premiums to be able to cover the claims/ the amounts owed in case of a damage.  The premiums would be exorbitant to cover a pandemic.  If one league is affected it affects all the others.  Insurance companies need to receive the necessary premiums to build up the reserves to cover the claims otherwise they'll go bankrupt. 

 

as you and I are well aware,

a “force majuers” Does not always mean coverage..  but it can  cancel out where contracts need to be fulfilled and thus have accumulated more debt because of it .

 

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12 minutes ago, SilentSam said:

as you and I are well aware,

a “force majuers” Does not always mean coverage..  but it can  cancel out where contracts need to be fulfilled and thus have accumulated more debt because of it .

 

Are you Force Majure's agent? :lol:

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On 6/25/2020 at 7:43 AM, stawns said:

what difference does being "sick" make?  They can still transmit the virus

I wanted to know for my own edification. The illness of the individual matters, because some may have contracted the virus and have developed antibodies to protect them. They would of course be isolated from others for precaution sake. Sounds like Vancouver is still in the running as a hub for now.

 

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8 hours ago, mll said:

 

Wimbledon is a 2 week competition in just one location.  It's not the same magnitude.  

Lol,.   I just pictured the Stanley Cup Final , 

10 guys on one team , and 8 on the other team.

Last man standing wins.

 

it will be like trying to play street hockey as a kid thru dinner time,.   “Mil !  .. your mums calling you for dinner ! “

 

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The media definitely isn't making it sound like Vancouver is still in the running.  But the US just had their highest number of new COVID cases diagnosed in a single day today and that number is only going to keep climbing into the forseeable future.  If the NHL should somehow come to their senses and realize that the only way to guarantee their games will go on uninterrupted is if the don't play any in the US, and that the best way to guarantee this would be to play in the safest  city in North America, then we would still be in the running.  Heck, if the NHL execs were using any common sense at all, they would have all 24 NHL teams playing in BC!

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19 hours ago, janisahockeynut said:

The topic of who benefits more to the season restarted makes me laugh............

 

It seems to me that players, generally make 10X's to 100 X's what a normal worker makes........and that is giving most workers a big raise

 

So, I think the players have been given enough to live comfortably for the next few years

 

The owners, have leveraged their teams raising value to buy more assets.............aka, that is business 

 

So, IMO, this restart is all about the owners..................as they are bleeding money from every orifice

 

In the last CBA or even the last lock, the owners had the upper hand, as all their values were high, and could afford to apply pressure

 

Today....I don't think that is the case

 

The players should not be risking their health and future wealth, over the owners woes

 

IMO, the players should be pushing to negotiate now, with the threat of no hockey next year, with no hockey this year.........

 

Tough for the fans, but the players would benefit from this stance

 

 

One should remember that if the players get more money, the fans that attend games will pay for it. All economics works on the margins.  If costs increase without corresponding increase in revenue, marginal teams will fail. Since players are paid in US dollars, many of the teams that could get in trouble are Canadian - granted the exchange rates.

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14 hours ago, Hairy Kneel said:

I think JB and Diamond have had more than enough time to make a deal. I'm pretty sure they're just waiting for all the other dominoes to drop. Scheduling, start up date, cap space, and any trade action on current D men.

I don't see Tryamkin's return contract size being a deterrent to him coming back.

The terms will be interesting. Do you think there will be a pandemic clause?

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22 hours ago, Googlie said:

That was pure wishful thinking. At that time the daily new case count and the active case count showed no signs of abating in California. The only data that appeared to indicate that maybe the worst was over was the new death count, which looked promising at the time of that article, briefly.

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1 hour ago, Ray_Cathode said:

The terms will be interesting. Do you think there will be a pandemic clause?

I think all contracts will have them in some way. Right to refuse work if there's contagion, health insurance.  Revenue shortages and reducing contract sizes.

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21 hours ago, gurn said:

approx. 7 month regular season for the NHL, say 4 weeks per month, so about 28 weeks. 14, two week blocks at $1.9 mill per block  and they would be looking at a premium of at least $266 million.

To quote Chris Rock  "That's a lot of money".

I’m sure some competition would come into play regarding that figure .

 

31 teams..  7m per =. 280m

involve the tv network’s and perhaps there carriers can do better.

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4 hours ago, WeneedLumme said:

That was pure wishful thinking. At that time the daily new case count and the active case count showed no signs of abating in California. The only data that appeared to indicate that maybe the worst was over was the new death count, which looked promising at the time of that article, briefly.

Just for a reference California along with Texas, Florida and Arizona amongst other are the hot spots in the USA.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/coronavirus-count-state-day-2020-united-states-n1173421

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29 minutes ago, Fred65 said:

Just for a reference California along with Texas, Florida and Arizona amongst other are the hot spots in the USA.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/coronavirus-count-state-day-2020-united-states-n1173421

 

Texas is huge.  One highway across the state is over 800 miles.  And, if you start at the Oklahoma border and drove north to the Canadian border, it would be a shorter trip than driving to the Mexican border.  We also have over 30-million people, and places like the Houston metro area where I live has over 6-million. 

 

But one reason why cases are up is that they are testing more people--  You can get a swab for free or an antibody test for $10.    

 

But the stat in the US is important.  Just over 2.2-million people have been infected with 120,000 deaths.  Many deaths are for those already immunocompromised or elderly.

 

Finally, the hospitals down here are not overrun.  While intensive care for COVID is a concern, Houston has the largest medical center in the world.  The Texas Medical Center has over 100,000 employees and more than 60 institutions, and serve more than 160,000 patients daily.  And then fhere are all the outlying hospitals that are in the suburbs.  Capacity outside the ICU is not a concern.

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9 minutes ago, The Colt 45s said:

 

Texas is huge.  One highway across the state is over 800 miles.  And, if you start at the Oklahoma border and drove north to the Canadian border, it would be a shorter trip than driving to the Mexican border.  We also have over 30-million people, and places like the Houston metro area where I live has over 6-million. 

 

But one reason why cases are up is that they are testing more people--  You can get a swab for free or an antibody test for $10.    

 

But the stat in the US is important.  Just over 2.2-million people have been infected with 120,000 deaths.  Many deaths are for those already immunocompromised or elderly.

 

Finally, the hospitals down here are not overrun.  While intensive care for COVID is a concern, Houston has the largest medical center in the world.  The Texas Medical Center has over 100,000 employees and more than 60 institutions, and serve more than 160,000 patients daily.  And then fhere are all the outlying hospitals that are in the suburbs.  Capacity outside the ICU is not a concern.

It does seem though,  by watching the graphs,  that after the case count rises or spikes,.  It’s roughly 3 weeks before you see the cases that require medical attention surface.

How everyone’s immune system is different,

and who’s to say that this virus can not be making itself weaker or stronger after it’s passed on to the next person.. mutating.
..and or,.  How it cripples the ones who may be “at risk” with other ailments.

 

This truly has to require the patience and respect it deserves .

 

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40 minutes ago, The Colt 45s said:

 One highway across the state is over 800 miles.  And, if you start at the Oklahoma border and drove north to the Canadian border, it would be a shorter trip than driving to the Mexican border. 

I'm intrigued by this.....when I read it I thought that it can't be true, so I went to maps and tried to find a straight line route that proved you correct but I can't....I'm genuinely curious on this, can you provide proof? 

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2 hours ago, The Colt 45s said:

 

Texas is huge.  One highway across the state is over 800 miles.  And, if you start at the Oklahoma border and drove north to the Canadian border, it would be a shorter trip than driving to the Mexican border.  We also have over 30-million people, and places like the Houston metro area where I live has over 6-million. 

 

But one reason why cases are up is that they are testing more people--  You can get a swab for free or an antibody test for $10.    

 

But the stat in the US is important.  Just over 2.2-million people have been infected with 120,000 deaths.  Many deaths are for those already immunocompromised or elderly.

 

Finally, the hospitals down here are not overrun.  While intensive care for COVID is a concern, Houston has the largest medical center in the world.  The Texas Medical Center has over 100,000 employees and more than 60 institutions, and serve more than 160,000 patients daily.  And then fhere are all the outlying hospitals that are in the suburbs.  Capacity outside the ICU is not a concern.

Well I have to say that's not what I heard on the US news. A number of physician in Texas have stated that a number of hospital are indeed over whelmed.  And your assumption is that other States are for some reason r not testing as frequently as Texas, only the Texas stats are effected by more testing.

 

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Texas reported 5,996 new coronavirus cases on Thursday, beating Wednesday’s record of 5,551. The state’s rolling average of 4,581 was a record and 340 percent higher than the rolling average on Memorial Day. The 47 new deaths were the most since May 20, according to tracking

A lot of the current spike is related back to the lifting of social limits. What I'd really like to see is all the revelers need to identify who they nominate to die as a result of them picking up the virus during their party time... my grandmother, my sister etc. It may not be them that die but some one close likely will

 

By the way BC is 30% larger than Texas and Alaska is larger too. I understand it's a large state and Houston as a city is vast and spread out.

 

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Texas, which has been at the forefront of moves to end lockdown measures, has seen thousands of new cases, prompting Republican Governor Greg Abbott to call a temporary halt to its reopening on Friday.

He announced that he was closing bars, stopping river-rafting, and ordering restaurants to return to 50% capacity to try to stem the outbreak.

Texas confirmed a record 5,996 new cases on Thursday, while there were also 47 more deaths reported, the highest daily toll for a month.

The USA has handled the virus worse then any other country, which is a dubious distinction. The has noew been 125,000 deaths dues to the virus. I see while in the midst of this corvid  I see the Senate is trying to chnage the health care act to eliminate so many from treatment now and in the future. :blink:

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2 hours ago, Fred65 said:

Well I have to say that's not what I heard on the US news. A number of physician in Texas have stated that a number of hospital are indeed over whelmed.  And your assumption is that other States are for some reason r not testing as frequently as Texas, only the Texas stats are effected by more testing.

 

A lot of the current spike is related back to the lifting of social limits. What I'd really like to see is all the revelers need to identify who they nominate to die as a result of them picking up the virus during their party time... my grandmother, my sister etc. It may not be them that die but some one close likely will

 

By the way BC is 30% larger than Texas and Alaska is larger too. I understand it's a large state and Houston as a city is vast and spread out.

 

The USA has handled the virus worse then any other country, which is a dubious distinction. The has noew been 125,000 deaths dues to the virus. I see while in the midst of this corvid  I see the Senate is trying to chnage the health care act to eliminate so many from treatment now and in the future. :blink:

Ah, got it ! The $hitty US Covid response thread ... jeez, I thought I clicked on the prospects thread haha!

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Is but isn’t relevant.

..  I beleive most teams need to see where the Cap space for next season before any major signings take place..    As in Tryamkins case.

 

 

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The June 1 deadline for clubs to sign players to contracts that begin next season which was extended to July 1, is tentatively set to expire tomorrow.

This was to give clubs additional time to sign players to 2020-21 contracts if the league held firm on no new 2019-20 contracts.

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On 6/26/2020 at 2:12 PM, Fred65 said:

Well I have to say that's not what I heard on the US news. A number of physician in Texas have stated that a number of hospital are indeed over whelmed.  And your assumption is that other States are for some reason r not testing as frequently as Texas, only the Texas stats are effected by more testing.

 

A lot of the current spike is related back to the lifting of social limits. What I'd really like to see is all the revelers need to identify who they nominate to die as a result of them picking up the virus during their party time... my grandmother, my sister etc. It may not be them that die but some one close likely will

 

By the way BC is 30% larger than Texas and Alaska is larger too. I understand it's a large state and Houston as a city is vast and spread out.

 

The USA has handled the virus worse then any other country, which is a dubious distinction. The has noew been 125,000 deaths dues to the virus. I see while in the midst of this corvid  I see the Senate is trying to chnage the health care act to eliminate so many from treatment now and in the future. :blink:

I suspect that this major increase is also related to the large BLM protests 2 weeks ago. Combined with the lifting of restrictions, large protests,  opening up economy............ a recipe for disaster? 

 

Oh my

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4 minutes ago, AbrasiveAjax said:

I suspect that this major increase is also related to the large BLM protests 2 weeks ago. Combined with the lifting of restrictions, large protests,  opening up economy............ a recipe for disaster? 

 

Oh my

Didn't Comet have an abrasive cleaning powder too,   LOL

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