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59 minutes ago, Hairy Kneel said:

Apparently Coach Green had communications with Tryamkin over the last while. (Theres a interview in the link)And I am glad that I am not the only one enamored with his physical gifts :P

Nastrovia!!!

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2 hours ago, Canuckster86 said:

Don't think we can afford to give up the assets to acquire a top 4RHD. Jake is a piece to that deal but in no way the main one imo.

 

I would do something like this:

 

Hughes-Myers(gets paid to play this kind of role)

Edler- Barrie(maybe signs here like hamhuis?)

Benn/OJ Tryamkin

Rafferty

Problem is Barrie will want at least $6 million and isn't good in his own end. The Canucks problem isn't scoring it is keeping the puck out of the net. We need to give to get. Only way we are going to become an elite team is if we have a D core. We have Hughes and Myers (Long term) after that everyone could potentially be gone after next season. Stecher/Tanev/ Fanta this year & Edler + Benn next year. I see Rathbone making the team by then on our second pairing.

 

 

Hughes- _______ Brenden Dillon, Severson,Pulock,Parayko, 

Rathbone-Myers

Juolevi?-Tryamkin?

 

 

It is easy to fill our 5/6 guys with different ones, I just put Juolevi and Tryamkin for arguments sake. We really need that guy to play next to Hughes

 

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4 minutes ago, Hairy Kneel said:

I agree, pass on Barrie. Hughes makes him redundant.  We need D to stop goals and  yet chip in some. 

Hughes>Barrie

Save that 6M for something else.

 

$6 million?

 

We’ll be lucky to get under the salary cap let alone have an extra $6 million to play with.

 

If we can re-sign two of Markstrom, Tanev, and Toffoli while re-signing our RFAs, that would be considered a huge offseason for Benning.

 

We will be very quiet in the free agent market this offseason.

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I’m guessing 2 years  (1.75 and 2.75)

... and a new home in the best place to be during a pandemic,.  even if it’s a little “skunky” ;)

... I’m pretty sure he signs for 4 years after that.

..and to all of those hormonal tweeters out there...

 

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It’s almost time that we see Tryamkin signed. He’ll be critical to our defense next year. It’s just a shame we have to wait until ... December?... until he’s able to play for the Canucks at the start of the season. 

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5 minutes ago, Slegr said:

It’s almost time that we see Tryamkin signed. He’ll be critical to our defense next year. It’s just a shame we have to wait until ... December?... until he’s able to play for the Canucks at the start of the season. 

Has it been confirmed he’s not eligible for playoffs?

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4 minutes ago, Slegr said:

It’s almost time that we see Tryamkin signed. He’ll be critical to our defense next year. It’s just a shame we have to wait until ... December?... until he’s able to play for the Canucks at the start of the season. 

In the interview Diamond says if Tryamkin signed in the  KHL the timing would be bad for us, in that we would probably lose him in free agency.  As a UFA.

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17 minutes ago, DeNiro said:

Has it been confirmed he’s not eligible for playoffs?

The interviewer and his agent spoke like it was a fact that he couldn’t start until start of next season, so I’m just assuming these playoffs are a no-go. It’s a shame though, especially since Benn is likely leaving the team for a period when his child is born, and will likely have to quarantine before coming back. Plus, we know how quickly our defence can get decimated.

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20 minutes ago, Outsiders said:

Problem is Barrie will want at least $6 million and isn't good in his own end. The Canucks problem isn't scoring it is keeping the puck out of the net. We need to give to get. Only way we are going to become an elite team is if we have a D core. We have Hughes and Myers (Long term) after that everyone could potentially be gone after next season. Setter/Tanev/ Fanta this year & Edler + Benn next year. I see Rathbone making the team by then on our second pairing.

 

 

Hughes- _______ Brenden Dillon, Severson,Pulock,Parayko, 

Rathbone-Myers

Juolevi?-Tryamkin?

 

 

It is easy to fill our 5/6 guys with different ones, I just put Juolevi and Tryamkin for arguments sake. We really need that guy to play next to Hughes

 

I totally hear you about who plays the left side on the 3rd pairing, and even though Benning is giving Juolevi every opportunity to make the squad, my money long term is on Brisebois

 

I will also say that both Rafferty and Woo could be the long term solution for a vacant spot on the RHD side

 

So I see it as 

 

Hughes - Myers

Edler - Tryamkin

Rathbone - Tanev

  Brisebois

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On 7/2/2020 at 1:30 PM, Provost said:

I think they have to figure out other pieces first.

 

They can’t have the extra million they would have to pay for Tryamkin to cost them one of Toffoli or Tanev.

 

It they sign Tryamkin before the 15th (KHL training camps) it probably means they have a good sense of not being able to sign Tanev/Stecher to a budget friendly deal.

^^^ This

 

Benning is clearly waiting for the CBA which will bring cap certainty.  The prudent path from there is to shore up the contracts for the must have players.  Who are the must have's?  In no particular order:  UFA's:  Markstrom, Tanev, and Toffoli......

 

Not must haves but the next priority has to be, RFA's:  Gaudette, Virtanen

 

Keep in mind that if the cap is flat over the next couple of seasons as is predicted, trading away problem salaries is going to be very difficult.  For players who are not on expiring contracts, buying out players who may be the only option.  Sutter, Baertschi, Benn......hell, I'd even buy out Pearson if I had to decide between him and Toffoli

 

Players who are on expiring contracts who have a significant cap hit and are expendable may end up walking.  Stecher is the most conspicuous of these players.   

 

For the same reason, free agents may be signing for less and for shorter term than usual.  Once the above is decided, then perhaps Tryamkin gets consideration.  Benning had better have have a plan of action mapped out already if he wants Tryamkin assuming he has a deadline of July 15 to either sign in the NHL or go back to the KHL.

 

Now, I'm not a fan of JD Burke but he was on 1040 this morning with John Abbott and Rick Dahliwal (only reason why I tuned in to be honest).  Burke considers Tryamkin to be seriously over rated.  He grants the physical gifts but does caution that at 25, he is a mature player who will not develop much.  He recalls that Tryamkin handled the puck like a hand grenade and was an icing machine.  Burke definitely leans towards hyperbole but I have to agree that although he exaggerates, the traits were there 3 years ago and it's going to take a leap of faith to cut more than a 1 year contract.  He pegs Tryamkin as a 7-8 defenseman but I think is he is signed, he will play on the bottom pair and will be told that it's a start.  

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I'm personally not overly optimistic Nik will ever wear the scowling orca again. Though I would love to have him. 

 

Maybe 3rd pairing of 

Rafferty Tryamkin

 

Could be a good opportunity for both of them to prove they deserve quality NHL minutes. 

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2 hours ago, hammertime said:

I'm personally not overly optimistic Nik will ever wear the scowling orca again. Though I would love to have him. 

 

Maybe 3rd pairing of 

Rafferty Tryamkin

 

Could be a good opportunity for both of them to prove they deserve quality NHL minutes. 

Instead of putting two players not used to the NHL on the same pair, how about we waive Benn and run with a young mixed experience line-up? If Tanev is resigned I think Stecher is left to walk/traded. If a tanev is not resigned then we keep Stech.

 

Hughes-Tanev/Myers

Edler-Rafferty

Tryamkin-Myers/Stecher

Brisebois

 

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5 hours ago, Crabcakes said:

^^^ This

 

Benning is clearly waiting for the CBA which will bring cap certainty.  The prudent path from there is to shore up the contracts for the must have players.  Who are the must have's?  In no particular order:  UFA's:  Markstrom, Tanev, and Toffoli......

 

Not must haves but the next priority has to be, RFA's:  Gaudette, Virtanen

 

Keep in mind that if the cap is flat over the next couple of seasons as is predicted, trading away problem salaries is going to be very difficult.  For players who are not on expiring contracts, buying out players who may be the only option.  Sutter, Baertschi, Benn......hell, I'd even buy out Pearson if I had to decide between him and Toffoli

 

Players who are on expiring contracts who have a significant cap hit and are expendable may end up walking.  Stecher is the most conspicuous of these players.   

 

For the same reason, free agents may be signing for less and for shorter term than usual.  Once the above is decided, then perhaps Tryamkin gets consideration.  Benning had better have have a plan of action mapped out already if he wants Tryamkin assuming he has a deadline of July 15 to either sign in the NHL or go back to the KHL.

 

Now, I'm not a fan of JD Burke but he was on 1040 this morning with John Abbott and Rick Dahliwal (only reason why I tuned in to be honest).  Burke considers Tryamkin to be seriously over rated.  He grants the physical gifts but does caution that at 25, he is a mature player who will not develop much.  He recalls that Tryamkin handled the puck like a hand grenade and was an icing machine.  Burke definitely leans towards hyperbole but I have to agree that although he exaggerates, the traits were there 3 years ago and it's going to take a leap of faith to cut more than a 1 year contract.  He pegs Tryamkin as a 7-8 defenseman but I think is he is signed, he will play on the bottom pair and will be told that it's a start.  

JD Burke musn't have watched Tryamkin play in Atvo to make these baseless claims. Hyperbole for sure. Suggesting at 25 Tryamkin is on a downturn? He was thrown to the wolves as a rookie at 21, and did rather well. Does JD Bunk remember all the loser retread D men we've gone through ? Nik is better than these 11 NHL players,

Del Zotto

Sbisa
Hutton
Schenn
Benn
GudB
Pouliot
Pedan

Wiercioch
Larsen

and even Biega

His role is like Babych or Dirk, get the puck, knock guys down and knock guys out of the crease. Tryamkin knows how to get time and space, more so than when he left. He's in for a surprise because Tryamkin has been working on his stretch passes. For a 3rd rounder coming back the bottom pairing will be fine to start. Tryamkin is a team first player. 

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16 hours ago, Hairy Kneel said:

In the interview Diamond says if Tryamkin signed in the  KHL the timing would be bad for us, in that we would probably lose him in free agency.  As a UFA.

I think we are far more at risk of losing Demko than a defenceman - we don’t need to protect Hughes, wouldn’t protect Edler his age and contract are protection enough, we would protect Myers, we would protect Tanev if we still have him, Stetcher, Benn and Fantenburg we would be willing to lose, and that leaves one or two spots depending on Tanev, to protect one or two of Rafferty, Tryamkin, or Juolevi (does he even need to be protected?).

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27 minutes ago, Ray_Cathode said:

I think we are far more at risk of losing Demko than a defenceman - we don’t need to protect Hughes, wouldn’t protect Edler his age and contract are protection enough, we would protect Myers, we would protect Tanev if we still have him, Stetcher, Benn and Fantenburg we would be willing to lose, and that leaves one or two spots depending on Tanev, to protect one or two of Rafferty, Tryamkin, or Juolevi (does he even need to be protected?).

You could be right about Demko, will depend what kind of term GM JB give Markstrom. I don't think the Canucks can afford to give Seattle a decent prospect or draft pick to keep Demko. But if Markstrom isn't signed for more than say 3-4 years then I would go on the safe side and protect Demko, even if it meant giving up a prospect or pick. A prospect or pick are unknown quantities.

 

Demko has room to improve for sure, but he has proven throughout his career to adapt and excel. Great qualities to have, seems like he has solid character which the Canucks emphasis on so would be worth keeping around in my opinion. He would be in his prime for a quite a while our core and budding young core continue to grow and blossom.

 

Running with a mid 30s goalie is a risk when the rest of your team is in there mid 20s, but that is just my opinion. Good news is we have 1 more year to see how Demko does in the NHL and how Dipietro does in his sophmore AHL season. 

 

As for Nikita, it is a no brainer to have him on our NHL roster to me. Would start him on the 3rd pair and increase his ice as time went on if he warranted it. If he is a solid 3rd pair shutdown type D...nothing Wrong with that either! Hal Gill in the modern faster NHL is nothing to be disappointed about.

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