Hugor Hill Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Those poor peace loving Palestinians are at it again. Cheering on the indiscriminate rocket attacks.http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=339_1405352725 Good thing those rockets aren't any threat to civilians. /sarcasm There is no cheering in this video. Nice try. http://freebeacon.com/national-security/hamas-orders-civilians-to-die-in-israeli-airstrikes/ Any more biased American right wing trash you want to show us? http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=230_1405272385 Peaceful Palestinian children only want to die as martyrs. Isn't that nice? how dare Israelis grab and detain children that want to kill them. The Israelis should just sit still and let rocks be thrown at them without defending themselves. I'm sure every respectable person in Canada would grandly allow blood thirsty kids to stone them while not defending themselves right? Of course they want to die as Martyrs. You want to die as murderers and get sent to hell? Do you expect them to sit still and let Israeli F16's and Tomahawks missile them to death without doing and even saying anything?? Ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Ed Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Don't feed the troll Hugor. Waste of time although some other posters have me questioning if they can be so dense without trying. Poe's law One can argue you're trolling as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugor Hill Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 No one has yet to by providing tangible evidence. You on the other hand, you're so comically bigoted that I don't for a second believe this is how you seriously are. Giving you the benefit of doubt I wouldn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Ed Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Remember.....http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c4c_1405296321 When Palestinians celebrated the death of civilians in New York. Palestinians/supporters riot in France.http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c83_1405309336 Germanyhttp://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ff5_1405281432 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 I'm no expert but I found this to be a good read. Supposedly "unbiased"... http://www.ifamericansknew.org/history/origin.html “The extended kingdoms of David and Solomon, on which the Zionists base their territorial demands, endured for only about 73 years...Then it fell apart...[Even] if we allow independence to the entire life of the ancient Jewish kingdoms, from David’s conquest of Canaan in 1000 B.C. to the wiping out of Judah in 586 B.C., we arrive at [only] a 414 year Jewish rule.” Illene Beatty, “Arab and Jew in the Land of Canaan.” So...if that is true, why is Israel (or really Zionists?) wanting the area known as Palestine for most of it's history? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugor Hill Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Palestinians/supporters riot in France.http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c83_1405309336 The girl at 0:47 is quite attractive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 This is an interesting take on the history of power transfer throughout the ages. We need to take a look at where we are today: the creation of nation-states. Whether one wants to agree or disagree with Colonialism, the fact remains that this is reality--many different peoples throughout the region have been granted independence by the historically ruling force ie. British Colonialism. This includes Israel. Palestinians should be granted their own state as well, along side Israel. This is something I think we can all agree on (I hope we all can). The issue is how to get there. And this is where I continue to fall back with the majority of my support with Israel, as they appear to be the only ones actually willing to have a two-state solution. This is why when Hamas continues to fire rockets at innocent people in Israel, which includes Arabs, Egyptians, Palestinians, Americans, Canadians, etc, I support Israel's right to defend themselves, as they are not the ones waging war, but are simply trying to keep the people within Israel safe and secure from violent terrorists. Regardless of whether fundamentalist Jews claim they were granted the land by God or not, the fact remains they were granted the land through international law. We should all support this because it is the only way that we can begin to have peace in this world. So when terrorist groups like Hamas decide to ignore reality, and instead choose war over peace, we should all condemn their actions and support the ones who are on the side of peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugor Hill Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 This is an interesting take on the history of power transfer throughout the ages. We need to take a look at where we are today: the creation of nation-states. Whether one wants to agree or disagree with Colonialism, the fact remains that this is reality--many different peoples throughout the region have been granted independence by the historically ruling force ie. British Colonialism. This includes Israel. Palestinians should be granted their own state as well, along side Israel. This is something I think we can all agree on (I hope we all can). The issue is how to get there. And this is where I continue to fall back with the majority of my support with Israel, as they appear to be the only ones actually willing to have a two-state solution. This is why when Hamas continues to fire rockets at innocent people in Israel, which includes Arabs, Egyptians, Palestinians, Americans, Canadians, etc, I support Israel's right to defend themselves, as they are not the ones waging war, but are simply trying to keep the people within Israel safe and secure from violent terrorists. Regardless of whether fundamentalist Jews claim they were granted the land by God or not, the fact remains they were granted the land through international law. We should all support this because it is the only way that we can begin to have peace in this world. So when terrorist groups like Hamas decide to ignore reality, and instead choose war over peace, we should all condemn their actions and support the ones who are on the side of peace. You seem to have a point, but conveniently ignoring everything that matters. Israel has been treating the Palestinians like they are aliens in the movie District 9, committing human rights violations, making Palestinian lives unnecessarily difficult in every way possible. It's double standards. Use international law and right to defend when it suits them, break international laws, torture people and go on the offensive when it suits them. They have zionist sympathizers (with money) everywhere. Everyday Harper gets on the camera to suck zionists private parts every chance he gets, contributing to the propaganda. (I don't blame Harper as much as you think... he is just sucking them for votes and money and influence like he is supposed to. Trudeau and Mulcair haven't said anything on their twitter accounts. If they have said something on the air, let me know.) And a lot of times it's their arrogant attitude that pisses people off, like they are better than everyone else just because god said so; they own the land because god said so; they can subjugate other people because god said so. Where is Richard Dawkins where you need him the most?? If they treat the Palestinians as their equals, I doubt that there would be any attempts to attack by the Palestinian fighters. Put yourself in the Palestinians shoes where at best you are treated as a second class citizens, at worst you are target practice, or you aren't even allowed in your homeland. How would you feel? Then use some anti-Imperial America sense that I'm sure you have and put yourself in an Israeli's shoes. What's the thing that your government needs to do to win the hearts of the Palestinians over? Many Israeli victims of war know this. Their government should listen to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Ed Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 This is an interesting take on the history of power transfer throughout the ages. We need to take a look at where we are today: the creation of nation-states. Whether one wants to agree or disagree with Colonialism, the fact remains that this is reality--many different peoples throughout the region have been granted independence by the historically ruling force ie. British Colonialism. This includes Israel. Palestinians should be granted their own state as well, along side Israel. This is something I think we can all agree on (I hope we all can). The issue is how to get there. And this is where I continue to fall back with the majority of my support with Israel, as they appear to be the only ones actually willing to have a two-state solution. This is why when Hamas continues to fire rockets at innocent people in Israel, which includes Arabs, Egyptians, Palestinians, Americans, Canadians, etc, I support Israel's right to defend themselves, as they are not the ones waging war, but are simply trying to keep the people within Israel safe and secure from violent terrorists. Regardless of whether fundamentalist Jews claim they were granted the land by God or not, the fact remains they were granted the land through international law. We should all support this because it is the only way that we can begin to have peace in this world. So when terrorist groups like Hamas decide to ignore reality, and instead choose war over peace, we should all condemn their actions and support the ones who are on the side of peace. Well said but I disagree in general because I don't believe the conflict is dedicated to only Israel and Palestine. To me this is Islam vrs the modern world. It's no coincidence that there is heavy violence surrounding every muslim populated area. Muslims also show similar disturbing patterns in places where they are a minority. Here's another incident where Palestinian supporters resorted to violence in LA. Yes every group has violent offenders but you could be blind if you don't see that muslims trying to empower Islam are the most violent people in the world today.http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2c7_1405377039 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugor Hill Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Well said but I disagree in general because I don't believe the conflict is dedicated to only Israel and Palestine. To me this is Islam vrs the modern world. It's no coincidence that there is heavy violence surrounding every muslim populated area. Muslims also show similar disturbing patterns in places where they are a minority. Here's another incident where Palestinian supporters resorted to violence in LA. Yes every group has violent offenders but you could be blind if you don't see that muslims trying to empower Islam are the most violent people in the world today.http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2c7_1405377039 Did your high school sweetheart drop you for an Arab dude? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddhas Hand Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Well said but I disagree in general because I don't believe the conflict is dedicated to only Israel and Palestine. To me this is Islam vrs the modern world. It's no coincidence that there is heavy violence surrounding every muslim populated area. Muslims also show similar disturbing patterns in places where they are a minority. Here's another incident where Palestinian supporters resorted to violence in LA. Yes every group has violent offenders but you could be blind if you don't see that muslims trying to empower Islam are the most violent people in the world today.http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2c7_1405377039 I think the mexican drug cartels would be at the top of most peoples list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummer4now Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Did your high school sweetheart drop you for an Arab dude? LOL I wouldn't be surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Ed Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Did your high school sweetheart drop you for an Arab dude? Nope just some people can only put up with so much. What good have muslims done in the last 5 years besides behead, steal school girls as wives, blow up anything including themselves, drag bodies through the streets, throw acid in young girls faces and try to assassinate the young girls, assassinate artist for cartoons, violent protests and finality threats against non believers including the subversion of all to Islam. Did I miss anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Israel hits Gaza with banned weapons: Norwegian doctor http://www.aa.com.tr/en/world/357944--israel-uses-banned-weapons I guess Hamas weapons (that don't cause damage ) are the measuring stick. Pretty sure Israel isn't Syria and their weapons Conform to the international 'kick your ass' measuring stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Ed Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 I think the mexican drug cartels would be at the top of most peoples list. In Mexico yes. But across the world on a grand scale I have to give it to muslims. Agreed it's arguably between the cartel and muslims. Which says a lot about Islam right there to be on a similar level to the drug cartels. Even the cartels have recorded their support for many Islamic groups. They must be impressed that some others could behead just as many ppl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddhas Hand Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 In Mexico yes. But across the world on a grand scale I have to give it to muslims. Agreed it's arguably between the cartel and muslims. Which says a lot about Islam right there to be on a similar level to the drug cartels. Even the cartels have recorded their support for many Islamic groups. They must be impressed that some others could behead just as many ppl. You claimed that Muslims are the most violent people in the world , they are not , .the mexican drug cartels are , the raw brutality of the violence they inflict on others easily places them at the top of the list. While i despise religion it is illogical to hold 1.6 billion people accountable for the actions of a small % of said people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugor Hill Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Nope just some people can only put up with so much. What good have muslims done in the last 5 years besides behead, steal school girls as wives, blow up anything including themselves, drag bodies through the streets, throw acid in young girls faces and try to assassinate the young girls, assassinate artist for cartoons, violent protests and finality threats against non believers including the subversion of all to Islam. Did I miss anything? Certain followers of Judaism have killed approximately 200 people and wounded up to a thousand of mostly innocent people over the last 5 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Ed Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 You claimed that Muslims are the most violent people in the world , they are not , .the mexican drug cartels are , the raw brutality of the violence they inflict on others easily places them at the top of the list. While i despise religion it is illogical to hold 1.6 billion people accountable for the actions of a small % of said people I disagree. When you look at the world as a whole muslims are more violent not only in greater numbers but also just as violent in their acts. Throwing acid and blinding young girls is just as despicably violent as anything the cartel does. The cartel actually admires Islamic groups. What does that tell you. Google that. The 1.6billion yes not all but I would say enough of that populace to plunge most of the planet into wars and the 'good ones' remaining surprisingly silent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Ed Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Certain followers of Judaism have killed approximately 200 people and wounded up to a thousand of mostly innocent people over the last 5 days. Casualties of war and should be much higher if they truly didn't care. Not to mention how despite the warnings their leaders urge them to stay in areas which have been warned of attacks and also place them in danger by staging attacks from. Oh the irony I would see if Israel switched to rockets and started killing indiscriminately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugor Hill Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 Casualties of war and should be much higher if they truly didn't care. Not to mention how despite the warnings their leaders urge them to stay in areas which have been warned of attacks and also place them in danger by staging attacks from. Oh the irony I would see if Israel switched to rockets and started killing indiscriminately. The point is your muslim violent examples pale in comparison to war casualties. And that human shield thing is Israeli propaganda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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