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Update: Long Term Ceasefire Reached in Latest Gaza War


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I disagree. When you look at the world as a whole muslims are more violent not only in greater numbers but also just as violent. Throwing acid and blinding young girls is just as despicably violent as anything the cartel does. The cartel actually admires Islamic groups. What does that tell you. Google that. The 1.6billion yes not all but I would say enough of that populace to plunge most of the planet into wars and the 'good ones' remaining surprisingly silent.

Plunge most of the planet into war ? only the Europeans and maybe the japanese are responsible for causing this up until this point.

As i have pointed out many times we here in the west are the people who have continually traveled to their part of the world and invaded their countries , they have no history of bringing war to our doorstep - western nations that make up the supposedly civilised world.

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Plunge most of the planet into war ? only the Europeans and maybe the japanese are responsible for causing this up until this point.

As i have pointed out many times we here in the west are the people who have continually traveled to their part of the world and invaded their countries , they have no history of bringing war to our doorstep - western nations that make up the supposedly civilised world.

They would love to bring war to our doorstep. They just need the ability to do so. I agree though that the wests meddling should never have happened. Although in many places I feel the fighting was inevitable regardless of that.

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They would love to bring war to our doorstep. They just need the ability to do so. I agree though that the wests meddling should never have happened. Although in many places I feel the fighting was inevitable regardless of that.

Fighting amongst themselves in their region of the world and plunging the world into war are 2 different things ed.

We all know why the west is currently meddling in middle eastern politics.

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No one has yet to by providing tangible evidence. You on the other hand, you're so comically bigoted that I don't for a second believe this is how you seriously are. Giving you the benefit of doubt

And that human shield thing is Israeli propaganda.

Palestinian citizens gathering on a roof after a warning shot has been fired:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTArVIHDelg

Video of Hamas telling people to be human shields:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBYtij4Q7sE

Israel dropping leaflets warning citizens of areas where they plan to step up attacks:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/jan/10/abbas-gaza-israel-truce

Palestinian Salah Kaware tells of how he was warned by telephone of a strike and then Hamas ordered people back into the house:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/113466980

Israel treating Palestinians victims of war in Israeli hospitals (they treat over 100,000 Palestinians every year and train Pal doctors):

http://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel/diplomacy-defense/36848-140710-haifa-hospital-treating-patients-from-gaza

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Palestinian citizens gathering on a roof after a warning shot has been fired:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTArVIHDelg

Video of Hamas telling people to be human shields:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBYtij4Q7sE

Israel dropping leaflets warning citizens of areas where they plan to step up attacks:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/jan/10/abbas-gaza-israel-truce

Palestinian Salah Kaware tells of how he was warned by telephone of a strike and then Hamas ordered people back into the house:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/113466980

Israel treating Palestinians victims of war in Israeli hospitals (they treat over 100,000 Palestinians every year and train Pal doctors):

http://www.i24news.tv/en/news/israel/diplomacy-defense/36848-140710-haifa-hospital-treating-patients-from-gaza

Alright:

1) It's from the IDF. While the footage is interesting one cannot trust the IDF's interpretation of events as being truthful.

2) The video was posted in 2008, from an account called Israeligirl... while the soundbites appear to be quite damning it may also be taken completely out of context from what we are dealing with today.

3) We knew about the leaflets.

4) MEMRI is a completely pro-Israel think tank.

5) It's from an Israeli news station. Also, Haifa is in the other end of Israel from Gaza. It doesn't make sense that this city's hospital would be helping Gazans and not something closer.

So there you have it. 4 out of 5 sources are from the Israeli propaganda machine. The Guardian is the only trusted source and it talked about the leaflets which we all knew about. Made no mentions of human shields.

Thanks for at least trying to give us some sources for once though.

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Alright:

1) It's from the IDF. While the footage is interesting one cannot trust the IDF's interpretation of events as being truthful.

2) The video was posted in 2008, from an account called Israeligirl... while the soundbites appear to be quite damning it may also be taken completely out of context from what we are dealing with today.

3) We knew about the leaflets.

4) MEMRI is a completely pro-Israel think tank.

5) It's from an Israeli news station. Also, Haifa is in the other end of Israel from Gaza. It doesn't make sense that this city's hospital would be helping Gazans and not something closer.

So there you have it. 4 out of 5 sources are from the Israeli propaganda machine. The Guardian is the only trusted source and it talked about the leaflets which we all knew about. Made no mentions of human shields.

Thanks for at least trying to give us some sources for once though.

What about the broadcast from Hamas telling it's citizens to ignore the pamphlets as a psychological weapon.

I can also find more sources for this stuff if you'd like. Your position is really quite baffling. It's one thing not to like Israel, but that doesn't mean you have to support Hamas.

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What about the broadcast from Hamas telling it's citizens to ignore the pamphlets as a psychological weapon.

I can also find more sources for this stuff if you'd like. Your position is really quite baffling. It's one thing not to like Israel, but that doesn't mean you have to support Hamas.

From what did you deduce that I support anything other than peace, equality and justice?... Nice curve ball man.

Also, what ignoring the pamphlets? It's not in any of your videos. And please find something that's not part of the Israeli propaganda machine.

Did you sit there for half an hour waiting for my response to your post, and then jump on it as soon as I hit 'Post'? I mean, it took me a while to debunk your junk but it took you 3 mins to reply.

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Anyone who sees what is happening is Palestine can clearly see how disgusting Israel is, anyone who disagrees is clearly bias and blind

And to me you are the blind one along with those who +1 that. There are plenty of people who support Israel that are not Jews so that's not bias. Including the government of Canada. So 'clearly' if many people support Israel and many governments then it's not so 'clear' like you say is it.

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As I have read more and more about this, I am learning more and more about the Zionist movement and I don't like it.

"According to the founding father of Zionism Theodore Herzl, “the area of the Jewish State stretches: “From the Brook of Egypt to the Euphrates.” According to Rabbi Fischmann, “The Promised Land extends from the River of Egypt up to the Euphrates, it includes parts of Syria and Lebanon.”"

http://www.globalresearch.ca/greater-israel-the-zionist-plan-for-the-middle-east/5324815

Revelation 3:9 ESV
Behold, I will make those of the synagogue of Satan who say that they are Jews and are not, but lie—behold, I will make them come and bow down before your feet and they will learn that I have loved you.
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And to me you are the blind one along with those who +1 that. There are plenty of people who support Israel that are not Jews so that's not bias. Including the government of Canada. So 'clearly' if many people support Israel and many governments then it's not so 'clear' like you say is it.

The green countries on this map are the ones that recognize the state of Palestine:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_recognition_of_the_State_of_Palestine

The majority of the planet supports Palestine.

This thread has hit a new low.. When posts are being deleted.

I'm intrigued. Can you re-write your delete post in a way that wouldn't get deleted?

Yeah. A lot of Jewish people around the world are good and are critical of Israeli government actions against Palestinian people.

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I posted this in another thread a couple of years ago:

The shared genetic heritage of Jews and Palestinians
The Times recently carried this unusual report on an Israeli Jew (Tsvi Misinai, a retired computer expert) who's hoping to prove that Palestinians are descended from Jews. Apparently, he thinks that proving this will help to stop the bloodshed. His idea is that modern Jews are descended from emigration in the first few centuries of the Christian era. The Jews who stayed put in Palestine converted to Islam, and became Palestinian Arabs. There's hope that genetic tests might be able to prove this.
Well, there is good news and bad news on that score.
The good news is that the genetics of Arabs and Jews have been pretty extensively researched. The classic study dates to 2000, from a team lead by Michael Hammer of University of Arizona. They looked at Y-chromosome haplotypes - this is the genetic material passed from father to son down the generations.
What they revealed was that Arabs and Jews are essentially a single population, and that Palestinians are slap bang in the middle of the different Jewish populations (as shown in this figure).
Another team, lead by Almut Nebel at the Hebrew University, Jerusalem, took a closer look in 2001. They found that Jewish lineages essentially bracket Muslim Kurds, but they were also very closely related to Palestinians. In fact, what their analysis suggested was that Palestinians were identical to Jews, but with a small mix of Arab genes - what you would expect if they were originally from the same stock, but that Palestinians had mixed a little with Arab immigrants. They conclude:
We propose that the Y chromosomes in Palestinian Arabs and Bedouin represent, to a large extent, early lineages derived from the Neolithic inhabitants of the area and additional lineages from more-recent population movements. The early lineages are part of the common chromosome pool shared with Jews (Nebel et al. 2000). According to our working model, the more-recent migrations were mostly from the Arabian Peninsula...
So, as far as male lineage goes, the genetic story is very clear. Palestinians and Jews are virtually indistinguishable.
Women are a bit more tricky...
Up until last year, the matrilineal heritage of Jews also seemed pretty clear. Analysis of elements in mitochondrial DNA (which is passed from mother to daughter) seemed to show that Jewish populations around Europe, North Africa, and the Middle East were derived from at least 8 unrelated 'founding mothers'.
Where they came from wasn't clear, but the most likely explanation was that they were from local populations that bred with immigrant Jewish males. Their offspring became absorbed into the Jewish community.
In 2008, a more sophisticated analysis was published that made use of whole mitochondrial DNA sequences. They found no evidence for the genetic bottle necks that indicate founding mothers in the large Jewish populations. Instead, they found a complicated picture with a very diverse gene pool suggesting intermarriage both with local populations and other Jewish groups.
The overall conclusion is that the female Jewish line deviates a lot more from the Palestinian heritage than the male line, but the heritage is still there.
So that's the good news. Jews and Palestinian Arabs are blood brothers - although this close genetic relationship probably stems from pre-Judaic times, rather than any more recent conversion of Palestinian Jews to Islam.
And the bad news? Well, this basic story has been known for the best part of a decade now. But, perhaps unsurprisingly, it hasn't lead to the warring sides laying down their weapons and engaging in a group hug. This is a religious conflict, not a genetic one.
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How noble of them to stop firing a missile every 5 minutes into one of the most dense areas in the world where 44% of the population is under 14. Takes a lot of courage. 6 hours! Wow, the sacrifice that must've required from Israel.

Give me a ???? break.

The fact that you can ignore the actions of Hamas and only criticize Israel is itself deplorable.

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my post was the one that got deleted.

i wrote something very very very negative about special ed's well-being 'cause he's supporting a nazi state that's been committing a holocaust

If israel was a nazi state there would now be no Palestinians or any Palestine whatsoever. A very foolish comparison that I see often made by delusional people. Come back to me when the Jews are rounding up Palestinians by the millions and herding them into gas chambers. Then burning the bodies while the rest sit in death camps. Exactly those acts, come back to me when the Jews do those things and I will agree to compare with nazis.

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