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Bieksa -4, is he worth 5mi/yr? he sucks

Ah yes, +/-, clearly the end-all, be-all of how much a player is worth.

Maybe we should've acquired Jeff Schultz in 2010 after a +50 season and locked him up long-term for big money.

Also, you can hardly blame Bieksa on any of those goals.

First goal, Burrows tips it in his own net. Bieksa makes the right play by preventing the puck carrier from driving to the net.

Second goal, the knob of Miller's stick knocks it in on the off-speed one-timer from the half boards. Bieksa right where he should be. If anyone is to blame, it's Miller for overplaying it (though he was obviously expecting a harder shot).

Third goal, Hamhuis turns the puck over for a breakaway. Bieksa gets back to interrupt the breakaway, then takes the guy in front, but the forwards are late coming back.

Fourth goal, Bieksa has body position on Cole, Lack makes the save, it deflects off of Cole's stick and in.

Good stat-sheet assessment, though ...

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Yea I think the score makes the game look worse than it was. Offense looked good.

but defense continues to look awful as a group...really miss the way we were hard to play against in 2011...this team seems to have a collective brain fart in its own end / break outs / etc....

upside is its coachable and correctable...and we need to play that way to win, probably why willie is showing some frustration

not sure if anyone else saw it today but tonight willie had the look torts had on his face many a night last year.

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i dont like blaming refs but the dorsett interference call changed everything. that was a WTF call

Dorsett's call might have been a bit weak as was the reffing against us for most of the night but this guy needs to sit he's taken far too many stupid penalties.

I also thought Burrows was piss poor again tonight this guy has to find some consistency otherwise thought most of the Canucks played a good game earning several scoring chances.

Other then that I thought the Canucks outchanced Dallas about 2-1 and I would chalk this game up as a fluke for Dallas the Canucks deserved a better fate.

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Canucks played well overall, one of the strangest games I've seen. They looked great out of the gate and were controlling the play then Dallas scored a lucky first goal. All the bounces went their way, but the Canucks never really folded and kept playing hard.

I thought Richardson played a strong game. Even +/-, 1 assists, 6 shots on goal, 53% FO, and killed over 5 minutes in penalties. 4th line looked good, the 2nd line, defense, and Miller were pretty weak.

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We outshot them. That's gotta be some type of moral victory right?

Yah and read the OP we won most of the game so go forward with some goods. Hansen and Kassian are roleing witch we need. Top line is good Vrbata on pace for 66 goals and is not to slowing down. Good stuff but bad game with lots of holes and massive problems

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My question is, is Lehtonen really that good or are the Canucks just firing blanks? 46 shots against him in a road game and we only get 3 goals. How many "hot goalies" did we run into last year? Too many if I recall correctly; I think the Canucks are just simply lacking talent, especially if they want to play an exciting brand of hockey this season.

I predict there will be several more wipe-outs against us this year unfortunately.

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My question is, is Lehtonen really that good or are the Canucks just firing blanks? 46 shots against him in a road game and we only get 3 goals. How many "hot goalies" did we run into last year? Too many if I recall correctly; I think the Canucks are just simply lacking talent, especially if they want to play an exciting brand of hockey this season.

I predict there will be several more wipe-outs against us this year unfortunately.

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In response to the 1040 poll about juggling up the second line.

I'm all for splitting up the twins if it means getting the second line going. The twins have demonstrated they don't need each other to score. And the second line doesn't need more time to form chemistry because they can't. That or we're expecting too much from them. You've got one guy who was brought here to be a fourth liner, third at best. The other guy has only ever thrived offensively under the twins and the newest addition hasn't produced more than 50 points, and put more than 40 once. That's a pretty pathetic second line if you ask me. Plus, two of those guys have been on this team for years, so what's the problem? So who else can you put there not named Sedin or Vrbata that is going to help make that line a real difference?

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In response to the 1040 poll about juggling up the second line.

I'm all for splitting up the twins if it means getting the second line going. The twins have demonstrated they don't need each other to score. And the second line doesn't need more time to form chemistry because they can't. That or we're expecting too much from them. You've got one guy who was brought here to be a fourth liner, third at best. The other guy has only ever thrived offensively under the twins and the newest addition hasn't produced more than 50 points, and put more than 40 once. That's a pretty pathetic second line if you ask me. Plus, two of those guys have been on this team for years, so what's the problem? So who else can you put there not named Sedin or Vrbata that is going to help make that line a real difference?

Burrows - Sedin - Jensen seemed to have pretty good chemistry last year so maybe we could try something like this once Horvat's ready:

Burrows - Sedin - Jensen

Sedin - Horvat/Bonino - Vrbata

Higgins - Horvat/Bonino - Kassian

Matthias - Richardson - Vey/Hansen

I think it wouldn't be a bad idea to go after a faceoff specialist either if we want to keep Jensen down.

Sedin - Sedin - Vrbata

Bonino - _____ - Kassian

Higgins - Horvat - Burrows

Matthias - Richardson - Vey/Hansen

I've seen Antoine Vermette mentioned and I think he'd be the perfect fit.

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Yah and read the OP we won most of the game so go forward with some goods. Hansen and Kassian are roleing witch we need. Top line is good Vrbata on pace for 66 goals and is not to slowing down. Good stuff but bad game with lots of holes and massive problems

Should we look to trade Miller now

Does anyone else ever get physically angry when Bure to Mogilny posts?

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Burrows - Sedin - Jensen seemed to have pretty good chemistry last year so maybe we could try something like this once Horvat's ready:

Burrows - Sedin - Jensen

Sedin - Horvat/Bonino - Vrbata

Higgins - Horvat/Bonino - Kassian

Matthias - Richardson - Vey/Hansen

I think it wouldn't be a bad idea to go after a faceoff specialist either if we want to keep Jensen down.

Sedin - Sedin - Vrbata

Bonino - _____ - Kassian

Higgins - Horvat - Burrows

Matthias - Richardson - Vey/Hansen

I've seen Antoine Vermette mentioned and I think he'd be the perfect fit.

Something. Anything. Didn't we do a lot of that finger crossing and hoping things would work out crap last season? I forget. Seems like it was years ago

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Well, we got blown out but I do have to say this: I was more entertained by this game than 90% of the games last season. It was refreshing to see the Canucks play hard even when they had absolutely no reason to keep doing so.

Definitely a good sign. I swear, last year they would just give up after being down a goal or two. Atleast now i can watch games like this to the bitter end.

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^Last yr we'd just all be lookin fwd to the post game presser, instead.. :^)

So now we know we've got a few more beauts in the system(from 2014 draft), & if we continue middling along, we should be adding to our prospects stash handsomely, come June.

We've all gotta stay positive & enjoy 'the process'.

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Not surprised at the result. This is what our team looks like when not playing against edmonton and calgary and those wins were smoke screens that just proved we can beat bad teams. I expect more of the same against st. louis. We're still a one line team with the sedins and bonino isn't a proven 2nd line player, but just a 2nd liner on our team by default. We have one 1st line, two 3rd lines and one 4th line. Our defense also isn't as good as it was in the past.

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