Nino Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 From what I've seen with Vey, he's going to be a very good player in time. Benning's core idea is that you need to bring young guys up to learn the game and see how its done. Vey doesn't need more time in the AHL. He needs to learn the NHL game. There are moments when you can see huge upside. I'm not so sure about him as of yet, I just can't see him on a top line and not sure we want him in our bottom six? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 It is hard to judge how a player is going to be in the NHL with only 51 games of experience. Vey has 19 points in those games. Keep in mind he is on his rookie season and is WD's boy. Judging by are lack of RWs in our prospect pool acquiring Vey was probably a fix now solution since he was ready to play in the NHL. For those reasons Vey will probably be with us going forward. Vey being scratched is not a huge deal and neither are his minutes. Vey is a rookie who isn't known for his defensive and physical play like Horvat. Fun fact: Vey has already put up more points than Kassian did in his rookie season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballisticsports. Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Looks like most thinking Vey will be another Jordan Shroeder ? I don't think we can put him down on the farm Team without clearing waivers ? Too bad, it would benefit both him and the team (in the future) if he could be sent down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Looks like most thinking Vey will be another Jordan Shroeder ? I don't think we can put him down on the farm Team without clearing waivers ? Too bad, it would benefit both him and the team (in the future) if he could be sent down No it won't. Vey's done his time in the AHL and is nothing like JS. Vey is ready for the NHL now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarGirl Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Vey's doing okay, Not bad since he hasn't played much games in the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossi Vaananen Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 He's doing ok but just ok. I want to see Kass bump him out of the lineup and bring that physical presence. From a lineup perspective it's difficult to see where Vey fits. As others have stated he doesn't bring physicality, defense or faceoffs. If he goes on a dry spell he's nearly useless to us. He might be future top 6 but he's miles away from that now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActiveDouble Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Give him a break. He's a rookie in the NHL. Give him time. He's still adapting. The same can't be said for Kassian though. He's had 3 years to try and find his groove, and this was his make or break season. So Kassian really needs to pull things together. We can't wait for eternity to finally watch him play to his potential. Vey is a very special player. He's definitely earned his ice time because of his work ethic. He's setting up guys. We just can't finish for ffs. He's always the one who's trying to cause havoc behind the net. He's really an important piece if we are going forth with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOL_dre Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Explain to me why you think a 23 year old is supposed to be a point a game player. Well nobody said that Kassian has to be a point per game player but he has 3 more seasons worth of experience then Vey, has size and is supposed to be a better player then him. So I think its fair to expect him to play at least as well as a 23 year old rookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 I rather have Garrison or Roland Mckewon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 I rather have Garrison or Roland Mckewon Well that's too bad isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Fun fact: Vey has already put up more points than Kassian did in his rookie season. Not really a fair comparison given Vey has played top 6 minutes and is on the first PP. Not to mention they play different roles. And Kass played his rookie season in Buffalo(?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Not a GM in the nhl gives you Kassian if you try to give them Vey straight up. Kassian brings WAY more to the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Not really a fair comparison given Vey has played top 6 minutes and is on the first PP. Not to mention they play different roles. And Kass played his rookie season in Buffalo(?) I am just trying to point out a fact. In all fairness as well Kassian does bring physicality, has a higher upside/potential, and is much bigger than Vey. Hence why Kassian was drafted 83 spots ahead of Vey. Vey is also an offensive forward and, as you said, under the circumstances it is understandable that he puts up more points. I'm just tired of people saying that there's no place for Vey on this team. WD and JB brought him here for a reason and I can see why but some others can't. I want people to understand that he is a rookie and with the type of player he is it is understandable if he's scratched or has lower minutes than the rest of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2SKATES1STICK Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Fun fact: Vey has already put up more points than Kassian did in his rookie season. fun fact: vey has had more pp time in 33 games than kassian has had this season and last - and vey's time has been exclusively with the sedins... even anson carter scored 33 playing with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 ^ I agree with you, just thought the comparison was unfair. Don't bother trying to reason with folk. They want young guys, but are mad cause there are growing pains with young guys. Lose, lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 fun fact: vey has had more pp time in 33 games than kassian has had this season and last - and vey's time has been exclusively with the sedins... even anson carter scored 33 playing with them. Read my post prior to yours and my reply to N7 right below my reply to you. Also it should be good that Vey has contributed on the PP, we need that moving forward since our PP in prior years has been god awful. Also didn't he get demoted to the 2nd unit? Also Vey doesn't play on the same line as the Sedins, Vrbata does and so did Carter. Vey has also contributed outside the PP as well. Which is another good thing ^ I agree with you, just thought the comparison was unfair. Don't bother trying to reason with folk. They want young guys, but are mad cause there are growing pains with young guys. Lose, lose. Wasn't trying to compare Vey with Kassian as much as I was trying to point out that Vey has potential. That was not my intent with that post. My apologies for not being as clear as I intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2SKATES1STICK Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Read my post prior to yours and my reply to N7 right below my reply to you. Also it should be good that Vey has contributed on the PP, we need that moving forward since our PP in prior years has been god awful. Also didn't he get demoted to the 2nd unit? Also Vey doesn't play on the same line as the Sedins, Vrbata does and so did Carter. Vey has also contributed outside the PP as well. Which is another good thing Wasn't trying to compare Vey with Kassian as much as I was trying to point out that Vey has potential. That was not my intent with that post. word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfstonker Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 The constant posts questioning our new players is tiring. Our team is at it's best when everyone is giving 100%. That is where we are at present and the young players like Vey are contributing to our success. I'm actually very happy with how our players have performed and the hockey they have produced. I can't remember even a handful of game where we looked outfought or outclassed. If we keep playing the way we are and Miller keeps making important saves as he did the other night I have no doubt we will be in at the death. I believe we are about where we were last year at this time but the difference, it seems to me, is we have not overplayed anyone, all the players look relaxed and confident and we are playing a brand of hockey which is much more entertaining to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyHatnDart Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 The constant posts questioning our new players is tiring. Our team is at it's best when everyone is giving 100%. That is where we are at present and the young players like Vey are contributing to our success. I'm actually very happy with how our players have performed and the hockey they have produced. I can't remember even a handful of game where we looked outfought or outclassed. If we keep playing the way we are and Miller keeps making important saves as he did the other night I have no doubt we will be in at the death. I believe we are about where we were last year at this time but the difference, it seems to me, is we have not overplayed anyone, all the players look relaxed and confident and we are playing a brand of hockey which is much more entertaining to watch. I agree. Bonino has been pretty stellar for his hit, and while he's no Kesler, he's been solid in his own right. The fact that we have a guy who, not only is not hurting the team in any way at 2C for 1.9m, is also on pace for 50pts this season (I think anyways; I'm plagiarizing another poster here). Vey is an offensive minded forward who is discovering how to play wing on this team. I believe it's better suited for him as well. But when you play a position your entire life and are asked to change, obviously it takes time to adjust. I would say he's done very well for a rookie, and I look forward to watching him progress. Sbisa is fun to watch. He's getting steadier as the season goes on, and as advertised, he hits like a truck. Big hits can cause momentum swings and it's nice to finally make the opposing forwards worry along our defensive boards. Been awhile for that. Dorsett brings exactly what I'd hoped and then some. I love him playing alongside Horvat, as it gives him protection as well as popping in some goals himself. Love the guy. I agree 100% with your last paragraph. I was so beyond frustrated with watching the Canucks last season, even before the meltdown. Once Hamhuis gets back if this team can continue its upward trend I think we stand a chance to make some noise in the playoffs. Which, I'll admit, is contradictory to what I said before this season began. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyhee Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 It is hard to judge how a player is going to be in the NHL with only 51 games of experience. Vey has 19 points in those games. Keep in mind he is on his rookie season and is WD's boy. Judging by are lack of RWs in our prospect pool acquiring Vey was probably a fix now solution since he was ready to play in the NHL. For those reasons Vey will probably be with us going forward. Vey being scratched is not a huge deal and neither are his minutes. Vey is a rookie who isn't known for his defensive and physical play like Horvat. Fun fact: Vey has already put up more points than Kassian did in his rookie season. As for the fun fact, note that Kassian and Vey were both born in 1991 and both drafted in 2009, but you're comparing rookie seasons that are separated by 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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