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What do you think of the Alex Burrows suspension?  

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Have to say, the front view of the hit (which I hadn't seen before) in the discipline video does appear to show it was a head hit. And, 3 games was what people were given at the beginning of last season for head hits. (Later, it was dropped to only 2 for most. You know, because consistency.) So, I'm not actually upset about the suspension. I love Burrows and don't believe for a second that he did it on purpose, but you just cannot hit someone in the head. Period.

I do, however, have a BIG issue with the question of "lateness" in general (and have since the Rome hit). First, I notice that the NHL always says something about "the accepted standard" but never actually gives any specifics. Why is that? What exactly is "late" according to "NHL standards"? Most sources I can find say the NHL standard is 0.6 second. Okay. So, 0.6 is acceptable but 0.7 is suspendable? How are players, in real time, supposed to be able to tell the difference between 0.6 and 0.7 second. Can you? I sure can't. And I'm not just talking about the players delivering hits, but the players being hit. If humans aren't actually able to tell the difference between 0.6 and 0.7 second, how we can say that a player should have know he was eligible to be hit, or to deliver a hit, at 0.6 second but not a tenth of a second later? How can the issue of eligibility to be hit switch so dramatically so quickly? I understand there has to be a cutoff, but there needs to be a better way. Unfortunately, I can't think of one. But then, the NHL isn't paying me big bucks to find answers to these burning questions about how to make players safer either...

Even still, my biggest problem isn't the arbitrary nature of their "standard," which as far as I know isn't based on any actual science that says 0.6 second is how long it takes for a player to see that the puck is gone and then move to avoid the hit. Rather, it's the fact that the NHL obscures just how late "late" hits are. In Burrows' suspension video, it says the hit was "nearly one full second" late. How much is that? Was it 0.7, 0.9, what? If lateness is so important (and I don't necessarily disagree), why can't they give us a clock on every hit there's any question about to confirm its timing? A simple tenth of a second stop clock added to a live speed view of the hit seems like an incredibly easy and cheap way for the NHL to add some transparency to their disciplinary decisions. (I would assume most video editing equipment would allow that to be done very easily.) The fact that they do not do it, and often don't even give us specific on the fraction of a second they're calling "late," makes me less than confident that they are being consistent and/or honest.

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At least put the best angle in the first post...

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I hope the video comes with the quote...

The arms come up late, "oh woe is me", arch the back, collapse.

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The refs on the ice didn't want to call or miss another interference call, they didn't know what to do - call the hit or the dive, and it didn't affect the play, so they let it go.

The 3 games is, as others have said, somewhat irrelevant.

Once they decided to phone Burr, the deal was done.

This is a dictatorial system with bad law, little respect for precedent, bias, and scant representation or appeal.

As another said, Burr has to learn to play within it, and the team has to rally during his absence and win games.

The Canucks, as always, have to beat the League, the officials, the "war room in Toronto", the refs, the media, not to mention the other team.

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The NHL not hiding their disdain for Burrows at all. I guess it's the reputation he earned though.

Kind of ridiculous that the NHLPA can't protect it's players better. The fact that he's never been suspended, and based on other much worse hits that have received nothing, he should have gotten a fine, or 1 game at the most.

Oh well, time to call up Jensen and give him a shot.

I agree. In hindsight he's towed a fine line in the past and not been suspended (not saying he's a dirty player). I'd much rather give Jensen those 3 games on the 2nd line and put Horvat in a put Hansen in the press box.

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I hope the video comes with the quote...

The arms come up late, "oh woe is me", arch the back, collapse.

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The refs on the ice didn't want to call or miss another interference call, they didn't know what to do - call the hit or the dive, and it didn't affect the play, so they let it go.

The 3 games is, as others have said, somewhat irrelevant.

Once they decided to phone Burr, the deal was done.

This is a dictatorial system with bad law, little respect for precedent, bias, and scant representation or appeal.

As another said, Burr has to learn to play within it, and the team has to rally during his absence and win games.

The Canucks, as always, have to beat the League, the officials, the "war room in Toronto", the refs, the media, not to mention the other team.

That's what it looks like when you are off balance and falling on skates. Besides, most people don't dive backwards (even if he does spin around so he doesn't land on his back/head).

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Lifting his left leg and lunging upward?????

More like skating and he was in stride.

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He did straighten his body and that made him a little taller before the hit but there was no lunging in any way. They found the camera that made it look the worst and pinned it with there BS

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I have no issues with 3 games - so long as this is now the benchmark that is used and applied in all cases - for every player and team in the NHL.

The issue and complaints that have some legitimacy are not so much in regards to "if" there should be punishment rather the clearly unbalanced and changing application of discipline.

If this new standard is held up for all players I welcome it.

Remember the hit to the head from Duncan on Sedin in Chicago that only got 5 games? If this standard was in place it would have been 10+ games. If burrows getting suspended for 3 fixes the past suspensions that had clear bias then its a ok!!!

On the plus side it gives them 3 games to look at Horvat which I am looking forward to.

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He did straighten his body and that made him a little taller before the hit but there was no lunging in any way. They found the camera that made it look the worst and pinned it with there BS

The straightening is basically just him stiffening up so he doesn't hit a wall and take a seat.

People on the other side will always say otherwise though.

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I have no issues with 3 games - so long as this is now the benchmark that is used and applied in all cases - for every player and team in the NHL.

The issue and complaints that have some legitimacy are not so much in regards to "if" there should be punishment rather the clearly unbalanced and changing application of discipline.

If this new standard is held up for all players I welcome it.

Remember the hit to the head from Duncan on Sedin in Chicago that only got 5 games? If this standard was in place it would have been 10+ games. If burrows getting suspended for 3 fixes the past suspensions that had clear bias then its a ok!!!

On the plus side it gives them 3 games to look at Horvat which I am looking forward to.

its a nice thought .. hope your right

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